Re: [racket-users] Re: inflate/deflate

2021-12-10 Thread reilithion


On Friday, January 13, 2017 at 5:32:51 AM UTC-8 Tony Garnock-Jones wrote:

> On 01/12/2017 11:32 PM, Lehi Toskin wrote: 
> > P.S. I didn't see an implementation of ADLER32 anywhere, so I had to 
> write my own, which took a little longer than expected, but oh well. 
>
> Oh, cool. That'd probably be a useful thing for Racket's 
> net/git-checkout module, which has a piece of code in `zlib-inflate` 
> that reads: 
>
> ... 
> (inflate i o) 
> ;; Verify checksum? 
> (read-bytes-exactly 'adler-checksum 4 i) 
> ... 
>
> Perhaps you could contribute your adler32 implementation, and it could 
> be used there. (And perhaps that `zlib-inflate` function deserves being 
> pulled out into a separate module. Hmm.) 
>
> Cheers, 
> Tony 
>

Yes, please do this. I was in need of a zlib-inflate while working on a 
script to inspect Minecraft save data. 

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Re: [racket-users] Discourse - Mailing list mode

2021-12-10 Thread Laurent
Would it be possible to allow only sending to
racket+nos...@discoursemail.com and filtering out those sent to just
racket@...?
Maybe that could avoid *some* spam. Not sure how effective that would be
though.

On Fri, 10 Dec 2021, 14:58 Stephen De Gabrielle, 
wrote:

> Thanks to Sam you can now post to discourse via email with the address
> rac...@discoursemail.com
> You do need to use the address you signed up with.
>
> if you use addresses like myaddress+te...@gmail.com ... I'm not sure - I
> don't have a quick way to test sending with this sort of address.
>
> Stephen
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 11:36 PM John Clements 
> wrote:
>
>> I just tried it, from a new account that wasn’t associated with an
>> account, and it looks like it went through … which is actually kind of
>> frightening. Can’t a random spammer just send email to this address? I
>> considered doing it as a stunt, but decided it would be nicer to ask about
>> it first.
>>
>> John
>>
>> > On Dec 9, 2021, at 10:52, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > It appears that enabling this is quite simple. I believe I have set it
>> > up so that emailing racket+uncategorize...@discoursemail.com should
>> > create a new topic in the Uncategorized category. Feel free to test it
>> > out.
>> >
>> > Sam
>> >
>> > On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 8:27 AM Stephen De Gabrielle
>> >  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> it’s becoming apparent to me that setting up posting via email is
>> frankly difficult; I think that monitoring the list using mailing-list mode
>> is plausible, but posting, at this point, is not.
>> >>
>> >> I had a chat with a Discourse consultant and they thought posting by
>> email was possible if you self host, but self hosting with mailing list
>> would require both a hosting provider, and a send mail provider (he uses
>> digital ocean with sendgrid or mailgun). Receiving email is handled by the
>> 'mail receiver container' if you are self hosting.
>> >>
>> >> It was a casual conversation, and I don't know him well.  It would be
>> good to know if other PL communities have done this
>> >>
>> >> stephen
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 6:47 PM 'John Clements' via Racket Users <
>> racket-users@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Your points are well taken, and moving away from a traditional
>> mailing list is not a decision that we took lightly; the fact is that we
>> were simply *failing* when it came to moderating the mailing list as run by
>> google groups, and running one through mailman was even worse. It appears
>> that discourse will allow us to spread the load of moderating the group
>> across the members of the group, rather than depending on one or two points
>> of failure.
>> >>>
>> >>> BTW, lest you think that I think that discourse solves all our
>> problems: it’s becoming apparent to me that setting up posting via email is
>> frankly difficult; I think that monitoring the list using mailing-list mode
>> is plausible, but posting, at this point, is not. I guess I shouldn’t be
>> shocked: that’s the whole problem with email, it’s not authenticated in any
>> reasonable or widely used way.
>> >>>
>> >>> Regardless, I’m happy with the move: we have about 181 people
>> registered, and the volume there looks robust and sustainable.
>> >>>
>> >>> John
>> >>>
>>  On Dec 8, 2021, at 13:16, George Neuner 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>  On 12/8/2021 12:34 PM, James Platt wrote:
>> > On Dec 8, 2021, at 10:45 AM, George Neuner wrote:
>> >
>> >> It's a big deal if you are (or were) following multiple groups.
>> >
>> > I don't understand.  Why is this an issue?  I find it very
>> convenient to filter each group into it's own folder in email.  If this
>> were a non-technical group, you wouldn't expect everyone to know how to do
>> that but anyone who is a programmer ought to have no problem configuring
>> filters and folders.
>> 
>>  If you had continued reading, you would have seen my comment that
>> NOT ALL news groups support list distribution or posting via email. NNTP is
>> not email.  Usenet group moderators[*] can choose how to make their groups
>> available: the default is via list distribution and NNTP both, but the
>> moderator can deliberately disable one or the other - or only enable
>> digests via email, or disable posting.
>> 
>>  My complaint is having to read some things via NNTP and others
>> through email because, while there are programs that do both, I haven't
>> found any single program that does BOTH WELL.  And that is without even
>> considering the growing number of ... don't want to confuse by saying
>> "groups", let's call them "crowds" ... that have abandoned Usenet entirely
>> in favor of web forums.
>> 
>>  George
>> 
>>  [*] even unmoderated groups have a moderator/administrator - by
>> default it is whoever started the group.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [racket-users] Discourse - Mailing list mode

2021-12-10 Thread Stephen De Gabrielle
Thanks to Sam you can now post to discourse via email with the address
rac...@discoursemail.com
You do need to use the address you signed up with.

if you use addresses like myaddress+te...@gmail.com ... I'm not sure - I
don't have a quick way to test sending with this sort of address.

Stephen


On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 11:36 PM John Clements 
wrote:

> I just tried it, from a new account that wasn’t associated with an
> account, and it looks like it went through … which is actually kind of
> frightening. Can’t a random spammer just send email to this address? I
> considered doing it as a stunt, but decided it would be nicer to ask about
> it first.
>
> John
>
> > On Dec 9, 2021, at 10:52, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt  wrote:
> >
> > It appears that enabling this is quite simple. I believe I have set it
> > up so that emailing racket+uncategorize...@discoursemail.com should
> > create a new topic in the Uncategorized category. Feel free to test it
> > out.
> >
> > Sam
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 8:27 AM Stephen De Gabrielle
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >>> it’s becoming apparent to me that setting up posting via email is
> frankly difficult; I think that monitoring the list using mailing-list mode
> is plausible, but posting, at this point, is not.
> >>
> >> I had a chat with a Discourse consultant and they thought posting by
> email was possible if you self host, but self hosting with mailing list
> would require both a hosting provider, and a send mail provider (he uses
> digital ocean with sendgrid or mailgun). Receiving email is handled by the
> 'mail receiver container' if you are self hosting.
> >>
> >> It was a casual conversation, and I don't know him well.  It would be
> good to know if other PL communities have done this
> >>
> >> stephen
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 6:47 PM 'John Clements' via Racket Users <
> racket-users@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Your points are well taken, and moving away from a traditional mailing
> list is not a decision that we took lightly; the fact is that we were
> simply *failing* when it came to moderating the mailing list as run by
> google groups, and running one through mailman was even worse. It appears
> that discourse will allow us to spread the load of moderating the group
> across the members of the group, rather than depending on one or two points
> of failure.
> >>>
> >>> BTW, lest you think that I think that discourse solves all our
> problems: it’s becoming apparent to me that setting up posting via email is
> frankly difficult; I think that monitoring the list using mailing-list mode
> is plausible, but posting, at this point, is not. I guess I shouldn’t be
> shocked: that’s the whole problem with email, it’s not authenticated in any
> reasonable or widely used way.
> >>>
> >>> Regardless, I’m happy with the move: we have about 181 people
> registered, and the volume there looks robust and sustainable.
> >>>
> >>> John
> >>>
>  On Dec 8, 2021, at 13:16, George Neuner  wrote:
> 
> 
>  On 12/8/2021 12:34 PM, James Platt wrote:
> > On Dec 8, 2021, at 10:45 AM, George Neuner wrote:
> >
> >> It's a big deal if you are (or were) following multiple groups.
> >
> > I don't understand.  Why is this an issue?  I find it very
> convenient to filter each group into it's own folder in email.  If this
> were a non-technical group, you wouldn't expect everyone to know how to do
> that but anyone who is a programmer ought to have no problem configuring
> filters and folders.
> 
>  If you had continued reading, you would have seen my comment that NOT
> ALL news groups support list distribution or posting via email. NNTP is not
> email.  Usenet group moderators[*] can choose how to make their groups
> available: the default is via list distribution and NNTP both, but the
> moderator can deliberately disable one or the other - or only enable
> digests via email, or disable posting.
> 
>  My complaint is having to read some things via NNTP and others
> through email because, while there are programs that do both, I haven't
> found any single program that does BOTH WELL.  And that is without even
> considering the growing number of ... don't want to confuse by saying
> "groups", let's call them "crowds" ... that have abandoned Usenet entirely
> in favor of web forums.
> 
>  George
> 
>  [*] even unmoderated groups have a moderator/administrator - by
> default it is whoever started the group.
> 
> 
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