Re: [racket-users] Open source projects

2017-10-31 Thread David Storrs
Cool.  Thanks, Stephen.

On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 9:12 PM, Stephen De Gabrielle
 wrote:
> I've added the sha256 suggestion to
> https://github.com/racket/racket/wiki/Intro-Projects
>
> s.
>
> On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 3:50 PM, David Storrs 
> wrote:
>>
>> One other relatively easy project would be to add sha256 to the
>> openssl library.  https://docs.racket-lang.org/openssl/index.html
>>
>> There is a version of sha256 implemented in
>> https://github.com/RayRacine/grommet but it's for Typed Racket only.
>> I know that it's possible to use TR from untyped code, but it would be
>> nice to have it all in one place.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 11:29 AM, Hendrik Boom 
>> wrote:
>> > On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 06:42:39PM -0400, Neil Van Dyke wrote:
>> >
>> > this above all if you want to contribute::
>> >>
>> >> While you're first learning Racket by using it, it might also be
>> >> helpful to
>> >> others if you kept written notes on things that you found confusing.
>> >> Eventually, this list might help improve the documentation for others.
>> >
>> > WHile Racket is much better documented than most free software, it
>> > could be improved.  Debugging documentation requires a supply of
>> > ignorance, which is repidly used up as documentation testers
>> > learn what the documentation means.  So when you find the
>> > documentation obscure, treat it as a documentation bug and report it.
>> > Maybe, when you become an expert and your supply of ignorance has run
>> > out, you can even propose patches to improve that documentation!
>> >
>> > -- hendrik
>> >
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Re: [racket-users] Open source projects

2017-10-31 Thread Stephen De Gabrielle
I've added the sha256 suggestion to
https://github.com/racket/racket/wiki/Intro-Projects

s.

On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 3:50 PM, David Storrs 
wrote:

> One other relatively easy project would be to add sha256 to the
> openssl library.  https://docs.racket-lang.org/openssl/index.html
>
> There is a version of sha256 implemented in
> https://github.com/RayRacine/grommet but it's for Typed Racket only.
> I know that it's possible to use TR from untyped code, but it would be
> nice to have it all in one place.
>
> On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 11:29 AM, Hendrik Boom 
> wrote:
> > On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 06:42:39PM -0400, Neil Van Dyke wrote:
> >
> > this above all if you want to contribute::
> >>
> >> While you're first learning Racket by using it, it might also be
> helpful to
> >> others if you kept written notes on things that you found confusing.
> >> Eventually, this list might help improve the documentation for others.
> >
> > WHile Racket is much better documented than most free software, it
> > could be improved.  Debugging documentation requires a supply of
> > ignorance, which is repidly used up as documentation testers
> > learn what the documentation means.  So when you find the
> > documentation obscure, treat it as a documentation bug and report it.
> > Maybe, when you become an expert and your supply of ignorance has run
> > out, you can even propose patches to improve that documentation!
> >
> > -- hendrik
> >
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Re: [racket-users] Open source projects

2017-10-31 Thread Neil Van Dyke
I consider myself pretty community-oriented, but, if I'm trying some new 
platform, and the recommended practice when I am confused by the 
documentation is to go file documentation bug reports, then I'm unlikely 
to follow that advice.


I know that posting a bug report is an interruption to any work, and to 
my initial enthusiasm and immersion, and the suggestion sounds 
potentially dismissive, and not immediately helpful to me.  Now I don't 
have any good-sounding advice for what to do.


However, if the recommended practice is to ask in the active canonical 
forum, that sounds like a worthwhile idea, from myuser's perspective.  
(In addition to being a good idea from the community perspective, as I 
suggested in my previous message.)


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Re: [racket-users] Open source projects

2017-10-31 Thread Stephen De Gabrielle
Double apologies Hendrik - I didn’t notice when my phone incorrectly
‘corrected’ your name.

Kind regards
Stephen
On Tue, 31 Oct 2017 at 20:29, Stephen De Gabrielle 
wrote:

> Hi Hendrix,
>
> I hope you don’t mind, but I was so moved by your eloquent plea  I quoted
> it (without attribution) on the page
> https://github.com/racket/racket/wiki/Contributing-to-Racket
>
> Kind regards
> Stephen
>
> PS the github wiki is really easy to use - anyone could contribute - I did
> it on my phone while handing out Halloween candy.
> PPS I wish it was Scribble...
>
> On Tue, 31 Oct 2017 at 15:30, Hendrik Boom  wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 06:42:39PM -0400, Neil Van Dyke wrote:
>>
>> this above all if you want to contribute::
>> >
>> > While you're first learning Racket by using it, it might also be
>> helpful to
>> > others if you kept written notes on things that you found confusing.
>> > Eventually, this list might help improve the documentation for others.
>>
>> WHile Racket is much better documented than most free software, it
>> could be improved.  Debugging documentation requires a supply of
>> ignorance, which is repidly used up as documentation testers
>> learn what the documentation means.  So when you find the
>> documentation obscure, treat it as a documentation bug and report it.
>> Maybe, when you become an expert and your supply of ignorance has run
>> out, you can even propose patches to improve that documentation!
>>
>> -- hendrik
>>
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Re: [racket-users] Open source projects

2017-10-31 Thread Stephen De Gabrielle
Hi Hendrix,

I hope you don’t mind, but I was so moved by your eloquent plea  I quoted
it (without attribution) on the page
https://github.com/racket/racket/wiki/Contributing-to-Racket

Kind regards
Stephen

PS the github wiki is really easy to use - anyone could contribute - I did
it on my phone while handing out Halloween candy.
PPS I wish it was Scribble...

On Tue, 31 Oct 2017 at 15:30, Hendrik Boom  wrote:

> On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 06:42:39PM -0400, Neil Van Dyke wrote:
>
> this above all if you want to contribute::
> >
> > While you're first learning Racket by using it, it might also be helpful
> to
> > others if you kept written notes on things that you found confusing.
> > Eventually, this list might help improve the documentation for others.
>
> WHile Racket is much better documented than most free software, it
> could be improved.  Debugging documentation requires a supply of
> ignorance, which is repidly used up as documentation testers
> learn what the documentation means.  So when you find the
> documentation obscure, treat it as a documentation bug and report it.
> Maybe, when you become an expert and your supply of ignorance has run
> out, you can even propose patches to improve that documentation!
>
> -- hendrik
>
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Re: [racket-users] Open source projects

2017-10-31 Thread Stephen De Gabrielle
Add it to the wiki?

https://github.com/racket/racket/wiki



On Tue, 31 Oct 2017 at 15:50, David Storrs  wrote:

> One other relatively easy project would be to add sha256 to the
> openssl library.  https://docs.racket-lang.org/openssl/index.html
>
> There is a version of sha256 implemented in
> https://github.com/RayRacine/grommet but it's for Typed Racket only.
> I know that it's possible to use TR from untyped code, but it would be
> nice to have it all in one place.
>
> On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 11:29 AM, Hendrik Boom 
> wrote:
> > On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 06:42:39PM -0400, Neil Van Dyke wrote:
> >
> > this above all if you want to contribute::
> >>
> >> While you're first learning Racket by using it, it might also be
> helpful to
> >> others if you kept written notes on things that you found confusing.
> >> Eventually, this list might help improve the documentation for others.
> >
> > WHile Racket is much better documented than most free software, it
> > could be improved.  Debugging documentation requires a supply of
> > ignorance, which is repidly used up as documentation testers
> > learn what the documentation means.  So when you find the
> > documentation obscure, treat it as a documentation bug and report it.
> > Maybe, when you become an expert and your supply of ignorance has run
> > out, you can even propose patches to improve that documentation!
> >
> > -- hendrik
> >
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Re: [racket-users] Open source projects

2017-10-31 Thread David Storrs
On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 11:50 AM, David Storrs  wrote:
> One other relatively easy project would be to add sha256 to the
> openssl library.  https://docs.racket-lang.org/openssl/index.html
>
> There is a version of sha256 implemented in
> https://github.com/RayRacine/grommet but it's for Typed Racket only.
> I know that it's possible to use TR from untyped code, but it would be
> nice to have it all in one place.

EDIT:  For extra bonus points, submit your code to a
crypto-knowledgeable community (finding one is left as an exercise for
the reader) so that they can verify your implementation.


>
> On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 11:29 AM, Hendrik Boom  wrote:
>> On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 06:42:39PM -0400, Neil Van Dyke wrote:
>>
>> this above all if you want to contribute::
>>>
>>> While you're first learning Racket by using it, it might also be helpful to
>>> others if you kept written notes on things that you found confusing.
>>> Eventually, this list might help improve the documentation for others.
>>
>> WHile Racket is much better documented than most free software, it
>> could be improved.  Debugging documentation requires a supply of
>> ignorance, which is repidly used up as documentation testers
>> learn what the documentation means.  So when you find the
>> documentation obscure, treat it as a documentation bug and report it.
>> Maybe, when you become an expert and your supply of ignorance has run
>> out, you can even propose patches to improve that documentation!
>>
>> -- hendrik
>>
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Re: [racket-users] Open source projects

2017-10-31 Thread David Storrs
One other relatively easy project would be to add sha256 to the
openssl library.  https://docs.racket-lang.org/openssl/index.html

There is a version of sha256 implemented in
https://github.com/RayRacine/grommet but it's for Typed Racket only.
I know that it's possible to use TR from untyped code, but it would be
nice to have it all in one place.

On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 11:29 AM, Hendrik Boom  wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 06:42:39PM -0400, Neil Van Dyke wrote:
>
> this above all if you want to contribute::
>>
>> While you're first learning Racket by using it, it might also be helpful to
>> others if you kept written notes on things that you found confusing.
>> Eventually, this list might help improve the documentation for others.
>
> WHile Racket is much better documented than most free software, it
> could be improved.  Debugging documentation requires a supply of
> ignorance, which is repidly used up as documentation testers
> learn what the documentation means.  So when you find the
> documentation obscure, treat it as a documentation bug and report it.
> Maybe, when you become an expert and your supply of ignorance has run
> out, you can even propose patches to improve that documentation!
>
> -- hendrik
>
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Re: [racket-users] Open source projects

2017-10-31 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 06:42:39PM -0400, Neil Van Dyke wrote:

this above all if you want to contribute::
> 
> While you're first learning Racket by using it, it might also be helpful to
> others if you kept written notes on things that you found confusing. 
> Eventually, this list might help improve the documentation for others.

WHile Racket is much better documented than most free software, it 
could be improved.  Debugging documentation requires a supply of 
ignorance, which is repidly used up as documentation testers 
learn what the documentation means.  So when you find the 
documentation obscure, treat it as a documentation bug and report it.  
Maybe, when you become an expert and your supply of ignorance has run 
out, you can even propose patches to improve that documentation!

-- hendrik

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Re: [racket-users] Open source projects

2017-10-29 Thread Neil Van Dyke
When you're first learning Racket, wanting to contribute to the 
community is very admirable, but I think your *first* priority should be 
to get experience with Racket.  I think this prioritization will tend to 
make you more useful to everyone, sooner.


I suggest getting experience with Racket by making things that you want 
to make, and playing with language features that you want to understand.


Maybe you want to make a particular GUI app that you'd use, or a syntax 
extension you find yourself wanting, or a neat string manipulation 
function that you want for practical use or to see whether it can be 
done, or a tiling X window manager, or an IRC bot that `PRIVMSG`s nasty 
dotcom/logger bots that they should feel bad, or an IMAP email 
program (warning: working well with a diversity of servers is much more 
work than you'd think), or a Racket implementation of your beloved first 
programming language, or see how you might express concepts from any of 
your school classes computationally in Racket.  (This is not a list of 
things to do, but off-the-cuff examples that might spark a line of 
thought that gets you inspired to something you want to do.  You can 
understand the problem domain and your requirements, and pursue things 
that you're inspired to put work into, and keep it fun and rapid for 
now. Eventually, one or more of the things you make for yourself and 
learning might turn into something that others also want.)


While you're first learning Racket by using it, it might also be helpful 
to others if you kept written notes on things that you found confusing.  
Eventually, this list might help improve the documentation for others.


Exception: if you're an experienced programmer in some other languages, 
you might be able to recognize some package you'd like to have that 
Racket is missing, and to figure out how to get your feet wet with 
Racket by building a reusable, idiomatic, good-quality package that 
others will find it useful.


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Re: [racket-users] Open source projects

2017-10-29 Thread 'Royall Spence' via Racket Users
The docs are located in the main repository here:
https://github.com/racket/racket/tree/master/pkgs/racket-doc/scribblingsIt's 
not always easy to find the page you're looking for via the source
tree, so I recommend using a string search on Github to find the
sections of documentation you'd like to improve.

On Sun, Oct 29, 2017, at 05:35 PM, Guthrie Price wrote:
> It was recommended to me by a friend that while I am still learning
> Racket perhaps I can contribute to any documentation issues. This
> sounds like a good idea to me, but I am not sure how I can get
> started. Any help getting the ball rolling would be greatly
> appreciated.> 
> Thank you,
> Guthrie
> 
>  
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> 
> 
> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Stephen De Gabrielle
>  wrote:>> I think the ‘doable exercise for a budding 
> Racket programmer‘ was
>> scoped to be an achievable, but important piece that someone else
>> could use to make a DrRacket plugin.(or more likely change
>> DrRacket core)>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> Stephen
>> 
>> On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 at 00:52, Guthrie Price
>>  wrote:>>> Thank you all so much for your comments 
>> (the resulting discussion
>>> was also entertaining and unexpected).>>> 
>>> If I were to implement path auto-completion, would it be useful if
>>> it wasn’t integrated into DrRacket? I am not precisely sure what I
>>> would be adding this functionality to if not DrRacket.>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sunday, October 22, 2017, Neil Van Dyke 
>>> wrote: I could be missing something, but I think a filename completion
 procedure (not the DrRacket integration part) might be a doable
 exercise for a budding Racket programmer, so long as they already
 have a basic familiarity with using the filesystem and shell as a
 normal user. 
  Point them to the "Paths" and "Filesystem" sections of the Racket
  Reference, and tell them they just need a few procedures from each
  (probably including `split-path` and `directory-list`). 
  They might want to first make a procedure like this:
 
  (path-completions path-or-string?)
  ==> (listof completion-string)
 
  And then make a second procedure, which uses the first procedure,
  then adds an additional step, to let it return two values instead
  of one: 
  (path-completion-prefix-and-suffixes path-or-string?)
  ==> (values prefix-string-shared-by-all-completions
  (listof completion-remainder-after-any-shared-prefix-
  string)) 
  Then, when a user is interactively doing completion (like when
  they hit the Tab key in a shell), the first value returned by that
  second procedure is what would get added automatically to the
  path.  The second value is the list of possible completions
  following that shared prefix. 
  There are a few special cases to consider, but most should be easy
  to recognize and work through, just by thinking methodically about
  each point in your code.  For example, what do you do when the
  input path is relative, or when when there are no completions, or
  when the path is invalid or nonexistent or permissions-
  inaccessible, or when your path is already complete.  One case
  that's not obvious from the code: if the path is already complete
  and is a directory, a shell usually completes a directory
  separator, so consider whether you want to do that. 
  To make unit tests for these, they'll have to also look at more of
  the "Filesystem" section of the Racket Reference, to create and
  remove files and directories. 
  (I think wrapping a shell process, robustly, is much more
  difficult.) 
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Re: [racket-users] Open source projects

2017-10-29 Thread Guthrie Price
It was recommended to me by a friend that while I am still learning Racket
perhaps I can contribute to any documentation issues. This sounds like a
good idea to me, but I am not sure how I can get started. Any help getting
the ball rolling would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,
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On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Stephen De Gabrielle <
spdegabrie...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think the ‘doable exercise for a budding Racket programmer‘ was scoped
> to be an achievable, but important piece that someone else could use to
> make a DrRacket plugin.(or more likely change DrRacket core)
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Stephen
>
> On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 at 00:52, Guthrie Price  wrote:
>
>> Thank you all so much for your comments (the resulting discussion was
>> also entertaining and unexpected).
>>
>> If I were to implement path auto-completion, would it be useful if it
>> wasn’t integrated into DrRacket? I am not precisely sure what I would be
>> adding this functionality to if not DrRacket.
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, October 22, 2017, Neil Van Dyke  wrote:
>>
>>> I could be missing something, but I think a filename completion
>>> procedure (not the DrRacket integration part) might be a doable exercise
>>> for a budding Racket programmer, so long as they already have a basic
>>> familiarity with using the filesystem and shell as a normal user.
>>>
>>> Point them to the "Paths" and "Filesystem" sections of the Racket
>>> Reference, and tell them they just need a few procedures from each
>>> (probably including `split-path` and `directory-list`).
>>>
>>> They might want to first make a procedure like this:
>>>
>>> (path-completions path-or-string?)
>>> ==> (listof completion-string)
>>>
>>> And then make a second procedure, which uses the first procedure, then
>>> adds an additional step, to let it return two values instead of one:
>>>
>>> (path-completion-prefix-and-suffixes path-or-string?)
>>> ==> (values prefix-string-shared-by-all-completions
>>> (listof completion-remainder-after-
>>> any-shared-prefix-string))
>>>
>>> Then, when a user is interactively doing completion (like when they hit
>>> the Tab key in a shell), the first value returned by that second procedure
>>> is what would get added automatically to the path.  The second value is the
>>> list of possible completions following that shared prefix.
>>>
>>> There are a few special cases to consider, but most should be easy to
>>> recognize and work through, just by thinking methodically about each point
>>> in your code.  For example, what do you do when the input path is relative,
>>> or when when there are no completions, or when the path is invalid or
>>> nonexistent or permissions-inaccessible, or when your path is already
>>> complete.  One case that's not obvious from the code: if the path is
>>> already complete and is a directory, a shell usually completes a directory
>>> separator, so consider whether you want to do that.
>>>
>>> To make unit tests for these, they'll have to also look at more of the
>>> "Filesystem" section of the Racket Reference, to create and remove files
>>> and directories.
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Re: [racket-users] Open source projects

2017-10-24 Thread Stephen De Gabrielle
I think the ‘doable exercise for a budding Racket programmer‘ was scoped to
be an achievable, but important piece that someone else could use to make a
DrRacket plugin.(or more likely change DrRacket core)

Kind regards,

Stephen

On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 at 00:52, Guthrie Price  wrote:

> Thank you all so much for your comments (the resulting discussion was also
> entertaining and unexpected).
>
> If I were to implement path auto-completion, would it be useful if it
> wasn’t integrated into DrRacket? I am not precisely sure what I would be
> adding this functionality to if not DrRacket.
>
>
> On Sunday, October 22, 2017, Neil Van Dyke  wrote:
>
>> I could be missing something, but I think a filename completion procedure
>> (not the DrRacket integration part) might be a doable exercise for a
>> budding Racket programmer, so long as they already have a basic familiarity
>> with using the filesystem and shell as a normal user.
>>
>> Point them to the "Paths" and "Filesystem" sections of the Racket
>> Reference, and tell them they just need a few procedures from each
>> (probably including `split-path` and `directory-list`).
>>
>> They might want to first make a procedure like this:
>>
>> (path-completions path-or-string?)
>> ==> (listof completion-string)
>>
>> And then make a second procedure, which uses the first procedure, then
>> adds an additional step, to let it return two values instead of one:
>>
>> (path-completion-prefix-and-suffixes path-or-string?)
>> ==> (values prefix-string-shared-by-all-completions
>> (listof completion-remainder-after-any-shared-prefix-string))
>>
>> Then, when a user is interactively doing completion (like when they hit
>> the Tab key in a shell), the first value returned by that second procedure
>> is what would get added automatically to the path.  The second value is the
>> list of possible completions following that shared prefix.
>>
>> There are a few special cases to consider, but most should be easy to
>> recognize and work through, just by thinking methodically about each point
>> in your code.  For example, what do you do when the input path is relative,
>> or when when there are no completions, or when the path is invalid or
>> nonexistent or permissions-inaccessible, or when your path is already
>> complete.  One case that's not obvious from the code: if the path is
>> already complete and is a directory, a shell usually completes a directory
>> separator, so consider whether you want to do that.
>>
>> To make unit tests for these, they'll have to also look at more of the
>> "Filesystem" section of the Racket Reference, to create and remove files
>> and directories.
>>
>> (I think wrapping a shell process, robustly, is much more difficult.)
>>
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Re: [racket-users] Open source projects

2017-10-23 Thread Guthrie Price
Thank you all so much for your comments (the resulting discussion was also
entertaining and unexpected).

If I were to implement path auto-completion, would it be useful if it
wasn’t integrated into DrRacket? I am not precisely sure what I would be
adding this functionality to if not DrRacket.

On Sunday, October 22, 2017, Neil Van Dyke  wrote:

> I could be missing something, but I think a filename completion procedure
> (not the DrRacket integration part) might be a doable exercise for a
> budding Racket programmer, so long as they already have a basic familiarity
> with using the filesystem and shell as a normal user.
>
> Point them to the "Paths" and "Filesystem" sections of the Racket
> Reference, and tell them they just need a few procedures from each
> (probably including `split-path` and `directory-list`).
>
> They might want to first make a procedure like this:
>
> (path-completions path-or-string?)
> ==> (listof completion-string)
>
> And then make a second procedure, which uses the first procedure, then
> adds an additional step, to let it return two values instead of one:
>
> (path-completion-prefix-and-suffixes path-or-string?)
> ==> (values prefix-string-shared-by-all-completions
> (listof completion-remainder-after-any-shared-prefix-string))
>
> Then, when a user is interactively doing completion (like when they hit
> the Tab key in a shell), the first value returned by that second procedure
> is what would get added automatically to the path.  The second value is the
> list of possible completions following that shared prefix.
>
> There are a few special cases to consider, but most should be easy to
> recognize and work through, just by thinking methodically about each point
> in your code.  For example, what do you do when the input path is relative,
> or when when there are no completions, or when the path is invalid or
> nonexistent or permissions-inaccessible, or when your path is already
> complete.  One case that's not obvious from the code: if the path is
> already complete and is a directory, a shell usually completes a directory
> separator, so consider whether you want to do that.
>
> To make unit tests for these, they'll have to also look at more of the
> "Filesystem" section of the Racket Reference, to create and remove files
> and directories.
>
> (I think wrapping a shell process, robustly, is much more difficult.)
>
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Filename completion (was: Re: [racket-users] Open source projects)

2017-10-22 Thread 'John Clements' via Racket Users

> On Oct 22, 2017, at 16:05, Neil Van Dyke  wrote:
> 
> I could be missing something, but I think a filename completion procedure 
> (not the DrRacket integration part) might be a doable exercise for a budding 
> Racket programmer, so long as they already have a basic familiarity with 
> using the filesystem and shell as a normal user.

(forgive me for hijacking this thread.)

I see what you’re saying. I was thinking of all of the fancy features that tcsh 
has around filename completion, but it’s true that most of those aren’t things 
I use every day. You definitely would want “~” to work right, though, and I had 
imagined a stateful notion of “current directory”, but really, that’s probably 
just gilding the lily.

John Clements

> 
> Point them to the "Paths" and "Filesystem" sections of the Racket Reference, 
> and tell them they just need a few procedures from each (probably including 
> `split-path` and `directory-list`).
> 
> They might want to first make a procedure like this:
> 
> (path-completions path-or-string?)
> ==> (listof completion-string)
> 
> And then make a second procedure, which uses the first procedure, then adds 
> an additional step, to let it return two values instead of one:
> 
> (path-completion-prefix-and-suffixes path-or-string?)
> ==> (values prefix-string-shared-by-all-completions
> (listof completion-remainder-after-any-shared-prefix-string))
> 
> Then, when a user is interactively doing completion (like when they hit the 
> Tab key in a shell), the first value returned by that second procedure is 
> what would get added automatically to the path.  The second value is the list 
> of possible completions following that shared prefix.
> 
> There are a few special cases to consider, but most should be easy to 
> recognize and work through, just by thinking methodically about each point in 
> your code.  For example, what do you do when the input path is relative, or 
> when when there are no completions, or when the path is invalid or 
> nonexistent or permissions-inaccessible, or when your path is already 
> complete.  One case that's not obvious from the code: if the path is already 
> complete and is a directory, a shell usually completes a directory separator, 
> so consider whether you want to do that.
> 
> To make unit tests for these, they'll have to also look at more of the 
> "Filesystem" section of the Racket Reference, to create and remove files and 
> directories.
> 
> (I think wrapping a shell process, robustly, is much more difficult.)
> 
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Re: [racket-users] Open source projects

2017-10-22 Thread Neil Van Dyke
I could be missing something, but I think a filename completion 
procedure (not the DrRacket integration part) might be a doable exercise 
for a budding Racket programmer, so long as they already have a basic 
familiarity with using the filesystem and shell as a normal user.


Point them to the "Paths" and "Filesystem" sections of the Racket 
Reference, and tell them they just need a few procedures from each 
(probably including `split-path` and `directory-list`).


They might want to first make a procedure like this:

(path-completions path-or-string?)
==> (listof completion-string)

And then make a second procedure, which uses the first procedure, then 
adds an additional step, to let it return two values instead of one:


(path-completion-prefix-and-suffixes path-or-string?)
==> (values prefix-string-shared-by-all-completions
    (listof completion-remainder-after-any-shared-prefix-string))

Then, when a user is interactively doing completion (like when they hit 
the Tab key in a shell), the first value returned by that second 
procedure is what would get added automatically to the path.  The second 
value is the list of possible completions following that shared prefix.


There are a few special cases to consider, but most should be easy to 
recognize and work through, just by thinking methodically about each 
point in your code.  For example, what do you do when the input path is 
relative, or when when there are no completions, or when the path is 
invalid or nonexistent or permissions-inaccessible, or when your path is 
already complete.  One case that's not obvious from the code: if the 
path is already complete and is a directory, a shell usually completes a 
directory separator, so consider whether you want to do that.


To make unit tests for these, they'll have to also look at more of the 
"Filesystem" section of the Racket Reference, to create and remove files 
and directories.


(I think wrapping a shell process, robustly, is much more difficult.)

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Re: [racket-users] Open source projects

2017-10-22 Thread 'John Clements' via Racket Users
+1. The specific use case for me is super-scripty things like this:

(csv->list “~/clements/datasets/poly-dashboards/2178-data-schedule.csv’)

… to load a file from disk. One could make the claim that I should choose paths 
and filenames that I always remember, but in fact, shell-based completion is 
super-useful for this task, and in fact, to generate this path, I just switched 
to the shell. In fact, the easiest way to implement this would probably just be 
to run tcsh (or your favorite shell) in a wrapper that taps into the filename 
completion engine, rather than trying to re-invent the wheel.

John



> On Oct 22, 2017, at 10:37, Stephen De Gabrielle  
> wrote:
> 
> auto-completion of filenames in DrRacket, probably using a pop-up. That is: I 
> type a string containing a path fragment, and then I hit, say, C-c C-r or 
> some other unused combination (ha!), and I get a dialog that will allow me 
> with a small number of keystrokes to auto-complete to the filename that I’m 
> looking for.
> 
> I'd like that too.  While cmd-shift-O is great fro require paths, I find 
> navigating after the " difficult to use get to my ~/Dev/projectname folder (I 
> may be doing it wrong). 
> 
> I have added 'auto-completion of filenames in DrRacket' to 
> https://github.com/racket/racket/wiki/Larger-Projects 
> 
> Kind regards, 
> 
> Stephen
> 
> 
> On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 5:16 AM, Robby Findler  
> wrote:
> Do you want drr to open the files? If so, is cmd-shift-O followed by typing 
> an open double quote close enough?
> 
> Robby
> 
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 11:42 AM 'John Clements' via Racket Users 
>  wrote:
> 
> > On Oct 20, 2017, at 8:06 AM, Vincent St-Amour 
> >  wrote:
> >
> > That page is pretty out of date.
> >
> > This list is more focused on contributing to Racket itself, but is more
> > up to date. It was compiled for the "office hours" portion of the last
> > RacketCon, ~2 weeks ago.
> >
> >  
> > https://github.com/racket/racket/wiki/Racketeer-Office-Hours-2017-Task-Ideas
> 
> There’s something that I now want, and I’m not sure which list to add it to. 
> Following a discussion with William Hatch about shell usage in Racket, what I 
> think I really want is auto-completion of filenames in DrRacket, probably 
> using a pop-up. That is: I type a string containing a path fragment, and then 
> I hit, say, C-c C-r or some other unused combination (ha!), and I get a 
> dialog that will allow me with a small number of keystrokes to auto-complete 
> to the filename that I’m looking for.
> 
> Should be not-too-impossible.
> 
> If I get a spare ten hours, I’d love to do it myself…
> 
> Which list should I add this to?
> 
> John
> 
> cc: william hatch except I’m too busy to
> 
> >
> > Vincent
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 05:14:28 -0500,
> > Stephen De Gabrielle wrote:
> >>
> >> There is also a suggested projects page on the wiki
> >>
> >> https://github.com/racket/racket/wiki/Intro-Projects
> >>
> >> I don’t know if it is still accurate.
> >>
> >> Kind regards,
> >>
> >> Stephen
> >>
> >> On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 at 06:45, Jack Firth  wrote:
> >>
> >> Welcome, we're very glad to have you!
> >>
> >> Open source Racket projects are scattered all over the place, but here are 
> >> some good ways to find actively maintained and hopefully accessible 
> >> projects that might interest you:
> >>
> >> - Watch some talks from recent RacketCons, especially the most recent one 
> >> (which, conveniently, was barely a week and a half ago). A lot of talks 
> >> are on interesting and wildly unusual open source projects, and as a bonus 
> >> most presenters
> >> give out their contact information so people can reach out if they have 
> >> questions or might be interested in contributing. You can find information 
> >> on the most recent RacketCon at con.racket-lang.org including video and 
> >> livestream recordings,
> >> talk descriptions, and slides for each talk. Info for previous RacketCons 
> >> are available at con.racket-lang.org/2016/, con.racket-lang.org/2015/, 
> >> etc. Alas we don't yet have individual prettily-edited videos for each 
> >> talk at RacketCon 2017; they're
> >> only viewable via the saved livestream on youtube.
> >> - Search the official package catalog at pkgs.racket-lang.org for packages 
> >> whose descriptions sound interesting and which are hosted on GitHub / 
> >> GitLab / some other platform that makes it easy to contribute. Every 
> >> package includes links to its
> >> docs and repostiory, as well as a contact email address for whoever 
> >> maintains it. If you're not looking for a package in a particular problem 
> >> domain your best bet is probably to restrict your search to only packages 
> >> that build, have passing tests,
> >> and have docs. Decent issue / todo lists in the project repo are a nice 
> >> bonus.
> >> - Browse around the front page of the 

Re: [racket-users] Open source projects

2017-10-22 Thread Stephen De Gabrielle
>
> auto-completion of filenames in DrRacket, probably using a pop-up. That
> is: I type a string containing a path fragment, and then I hit, say, C-c
> C-r or some other unused combination (ha!), and I get a dialog that will
> allow me with a small number of keystrokes to auto-complete to the filename
> that I’m looking for.


I'd like that too.  While cmd-shift-O is great fro require paths, I find
navigating after the " difficult to use get to my ~/Dev/projectname folder
(I may be doing it wrong).

I have added 'auto-completion of filenames in DrRacket' to
https://github.com/racket/racket/wiki/Larger-Projects
Kind regards,

Stephen


On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 5:16 AM, Robby Findler 
wrote:

> Do you want drr to open the files? If so, is cmd-shift-O followed by
> typing an open double quote close enough?
>
> Robby
>
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 11:42 AM 'John Clements' via Racket Users <
> racket-users@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> > On Oct 20, 2017, at 8:06 AM, Vincent St-Amour <
>> stamo...@eecs.northwestern.edu> wrote:
>> >
>> > That page is pretty out of date.
>> >
>> > This list is more focused on contributing to Racket itself, but is more
>> > up to date. It was compiled for the "office hours" portion of the last
>> > RacketCon, ~2 weeks ago.
>> >
>> >  https://github.com/racket/racket/wiki/Racketeer-Office-
>> Hours-2017-Task-Ideas
>>
>> There’s something that I now want, and I’m not sure which list to add it
>> to. Following a discussion with William Hatch about shell usage in Racket,
>> what I think I really want is auto-completion of filenames in DrRacket,
>> probably using a pop-up. That is: I type a string containing a path
>> fragment, and then I hit, say, C-c C-r or some other unused combination
>> (ha!), and I get a dialog that will allow me with a small number of
>> keystrokes to auto-complete to the filename that I’m looking for.
>>
>> Should be not-too-impossible.
>>
>> If I get a spare ten hours, I’d love to do it myself…
>>
>> Which list should I add this to?
>>
>> John
>>
>> cc: william hatch except I’m too busy to
>>
>> >
>> > Vincent
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 05:14:28 -0500,
>> > Stephen De Gabrielle wrote:
>> >>
>> >> There is also a suggested projects page on the wiki
>> >>
>> >> https://github.com/racket/racket/wiki/Intro-Projects
>> >>
>> >> I don’t know if it is still accurate.
>> >>
>> >> Kind regards,
>> >>
>> >> Stephen
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 at 06:45, Jack Firth  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Welcome, we're very glad to have you!
>> >>
>> >> Open source Racket projects are scattered all over the place, but here
>> are some good ways to find actively maintained and hopefully accessible
>> projects that might interest you:
>> >>
>> >> - Watch some talks from recent RacketCons, especially the most recent
>> one (which, conveniently, was barely a week and a half ago). A lot of talks
>> are on interesting and wildly unusual open source projects, and as a bonus
>> most presenters
>> >> give out their contact information so people can reach out if they
>> have questions or might be interested in contributing. You can find
>> information on the most recent RacketCon at con.racket-lang.org
>> including video and livestream recordings,
>> >> talk descriptions, and slides for each talk. Info for previous
>> RacketCons are available at con.racket-lang.org/2016/,
>> con.racket-lang.org/2015/, etc. Alas we don't yet have individual
>> prettily-edited videos for each talk at RacketCon 2017; they're
>> >> only viewable via the saved livestream on youtube.
>> >> - Search the official package catalog at pkgs.racket-lang.org for
>> packages whose descriptions sound interesting and which are hosted on
>> GitHub / GitLab / some other platform that makes it easy to contribute.
>> Every package includes links to its
>> >> docs and repostiory, as well as a contact email address for whoever
>> maintains it. If you're not looking for a package in a particular problem
>> domain your best bet is probably to restrict your search to only packages
>> that build, have passing tests,
>> >> and have docs. Decent issue / todo lists in the project repo are a
>> nice bonus.
>> >> - Browse around the front page of the online Racket documentation at
>> docs.racket-lang.org. The online docs includes all docs from all
>> successfully built user packages at pkgs.racket-lang.org, grouped into
>> top level categories. Once you find
>> >> some docs for a project that's interesting, it's (hopefully!) not
>> difficult to find the package containing those docs by searching
>> pkgs.racket-lang.org.
>> >> - Hop in the Racket IRC (#racket on freenode) or the Racket Slack
>> channel (signup at racket-slack.herokuapp.com) and ask around about what
>> people are working on. I'm sure many folks will be delighted to talk about
>> their projects. And this
>> >> mailing list isn't a bad place to ask either.
>> >> - If you want to try something more ambitious, you can take a 

Re: [racket-users] Open source projects

2017-10-20 Thread Robby Findler
Do you want drr to open the files? If so, is cmd-shift-O followed by typing
an open double quote close enough?

Robby

On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 11:42 AM 'John Clements' via Racket Users <
racket-users@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
> > On Oct 20, 2017, at 8:06 AM, Vincent St-Amour <
> stamo...@eecs.northwestern.edu> wrote:
> >
> > That page is pretty out of date.
> >
> > This list is more focused on contributing to Racket itself, but is more
> > up to date. It was compiled for the "office hours" portion of the last
> > RacketCon, ~2 weeks ago.
> >
> >
> https://github.com/racket/racket/wiki/Racketeer-Office-Hours-2017-Task-Ideas
>
> There’s something that I now want, and I’m not sure which list to add it
> to. Following a discussion with William Hatch about shell usage in Racket,
> what I think I really want is auto-completion of filenames in DrRacket,
> probably using a pop-up. That is: I type a string containing a path
> fragment, and then I hit, say, C-c C-r or some other unused combination
> (ha!), and I get a dialog that will allow me with a small number of
> keystrokes to auto-complete to the filename that I’m looking for.
>
> Should be not-too-impossible.
>
> If I get a spare ten hours, I’d love to do it myself…
>
> Which list should I add this to?
>
> John
>
> cc: william hatch except I’m too busy to
>
> >
> > Vincent
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 05:14:28 -0500,
> > Stephen De Gabrielle wrote:
> >>
> >> There is also a suggested projects page on the wiki
> >>
> >> https://github.com/racket/racket/wiki/Intro-Projects
> >>
> >> I don’t know if it is still accurate.
> >>
> >> Kind regards,
> >>
> >> Stephen
> >>
> >> On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 at 06:45, Jack Firth  wrote:
> >>
> >> Welcome, we're very glad to have you!
> >>
> >> Open source Racket projects are scattered all over the place, but here
> are some good ways to find actively maintained and hopefully accessible
> projects that might interest you:
> >>
> >> - Watch some talks from recent RacketCons, especially the most recent
> one (which, conveniently, was barely a week and a half ago). A lot of talks
> are on interesting and wildly unusual open source projects, and as a bonus
> most presenters
> >> give out their contact information so people can reach out if they have
> questions or might be interested in contributing. You can find information
> on the most recent RacketCon at con.racket-lang.org including video and
> livestream recordings,
> >> talk descriptions, and slides for each talk. Info for previous
> RacketCons are available at con.racket-lang.org/2016/,
> con.racket-lang.org/2015/, etc. Alas we don't yet have individual
> prettily-edited videos for each talk at RacketCon 2017; they're
> >> only viewable via the saved livestream on youtube.
> >> - Search the official package catalog at pkgs.racket-lang.org for
> packages whose descriptions sound interesting and which are hosted on
> GitHub / GitLab / some other platform that makes it easy to contribute.
> Every package includes links to its
> >> docs and repostiory, as well as a contact email address for whoever
> maintains it. If you're not looking for a package in a particular problem
> domain your best bet is probably to restrict your search to only packages
> that build, have passing tests,
> >> and have docs. Decent issue / todo lists in the project repo are a nice
> bonus.
> >> - Browse around the front page of the online Racket documentation at
> docs.racket-lang.org. The online docs includes all docs from all
> successfully built user packages at pkgs.racket-lang.org, grouped into
> top level categories. Once you find
> >> some docs for a project that's interesting, it's (hopefully!) not
> difficult to find the package containing those docs by searching
> pkgs.racket-lang.org.
> >> - Hop in the Racket IRC (#racket on freenode) or the Racket Slack
> channel (signup at racket-slack.herokuapp.com) and ask around about what
> people are working on. I'm sure many folks will be delighted to talk about
> their projects. And this
> >> mailing list isn't a bad place to ask either.
> >> - If you want to try something more ambitious, you can take a peek at
> the Github repos in the "racket" organization (https://github.com/racket).
> These are all (or mostly? not sure) packages in the "main distribution",
> meaning they ship directly with
> >> Racket and don't have to be installed by users. Contributing to these
> packages can be a little trickier because sometimes they depend on the
> latest version of Racket's core, meaning you'll have to compile Racket's
> core from source.
> >>
> >> Also, all throughout this month Github and DigitalOcean are hosting an
> online event called Hacktoberfest. By signing up at
> https://hacktoberfest.digitalocean.com/ you'll get a free tshirt mailed
> to you if you submit four or more pull requests to any
> >> public repositories on Github before October ends. It doesn't matter
> how large each pull request is and a pull request to your 

Re: [racket-users] Open source projects

2017-10-20 Thread Vincent St-Amour
I think there's value to having a general projects list, beyond the
office hours one.

The older list was an attempt of that, which failed at that purpose by
becoming more of a "brain dump" area, and falling into disrepair.

I think that for such a list to succeed, it would need to be actively
maintained and curated by someone. John, would you be willing to do it?

Vincent



On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 11:42:27 -0500,
'John Clements' via Racket Users wrote:
> 
> 
> > On Oct 20, 2017, at 8:06 AM, Vincent St-Amour 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > That page is pretty out of date.
> > 
> > This list is more focused on contributing to Racket itself, but is more
> > up to date. It was compiled for the "office hours" portion of the last
> > RacketCon, ~2 weeks ago.
> > 
> >  
> > https://github.com/racket/racket/wiki/Racketeer-Office-Hours-2017-Task-Ideas
> 
> There’s something that I now want, and I’m not sure which list to add it to. 
> Following a discussion with William Hatch about shell usage in Racket, what I 
> think I really want is auto-completion of filenames in DrRacket, probably 
> using a pop-up. That is: I type a string containing a path fragment, and then 
> I hit, say, C-c C-r or some other unused combination (ha!), and I get a 
> dialog that will allow me with a small number of keystrokes to auto-complete 
> to the filename that I’m looking for.
> 
> Should be not-too-impossible.
> 
> If I get a spare ten hours, I’d love to do it myself… 
> 
> Which list should I add this to?
> 
> John
> 
> cc: william hatch except I’m too busy to 
> 
> > 
> > Vincent
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 05:14:28 -0500,
> > Stephen De Gabrielle wrote:
> >> 
> >> There is also a suggested projects page on the wiki
> >> 
> >> https://github.com/racket/racket/wiki/Intro-Projects
> >> 
> >> I don’t know if it is still accurate.
> >> 
> >> Kind regards,
> >> 
> >> Stephen
> >> 
> >> On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 at 06:45, Jack Firth  wrote:
> >> 
> >> Welcome, we're very glad to have you!
> >> 
> >> Open source Racket projects are scattered all over the place, but here are 
> >> some good ways to find actively maintained and hopefully accessible 
> >> projects that might interest you:
> >> 
> >> - Watch some talks from recent RacketCons, especially the most recent one 
> >> (which, conveniently, was barely a week and a half ago). A lot of talks 
> >> are on interesting and wildly unusual open source projects, and as a bonus 
> >> most presenters
> >> give out their contact information so people can reach out if they have 
> >> questions or might be interested in contributing. You can find information 
> >> on the most recent RacketCon at con.racket-lang.org including video and 
> >> livestream recordings,
> >> talk descriptions, and slides for each talk. Info for previous RacketCons 
> >> are available at con.racket-lang.org/2016/, con.racket-lang.org/2015/, 
> >> etc. Alas we don't yet have individual prettily-edited videos for each 
> >> talk at RacketCon 2017; they're
> >> only viewable via the saved livestream on youtube.
> >> - Search the official package catalog at pkgs.racket-lang.org for packages 
> >> whose descriptions sound interesting and which are hosted on GitHub / 
> >> GitLab / some other platform that makes it easy to contribute. Every 
> >> package includes links to its
> >> docs and repostiory, as well as a contact email address for whoever 
> >> maintains it. If you're not looking for a package in a particular problem 
> >> domain your best bet is probably to restrict your search to only packages 
> >> that build, have passing tests,
> >> and have docs. Decent issue / todo lists in the project repo are a nice 
> >> bonus.
> >> - Browse around the front page of the online Racket documentation at 
> >> docs.racket-lang.org. The online docs includes all docs from all 
> >> successfully built user packages at pkgs.racket-lang.org, grouped into top 
> >> level categories. Once you find
> >> some docs for a project that's interesting, it's (hopefully!) not 
> >> difficult to find the package containing those docs by searching 
> >> pkgs.racket-lang.org.
> >> - Hop in the Racket IRC (#racket on freenode) or the Racket Slack channel 
> >> (signup at racket-slack.herokuapp.com) and ask around about what people 
> >> are working on. I'm sure many folks will be delighted to talk about their 
> >> projects. And this
> >> mailing list isn't a bad place to ask either.
> >> - If you want to try something more ambitious, you can take a peek at the 
> >> Github repos in the "racket" organization (https://github.com/racket). 
> >> These are all (or mostly? not sure) packages in the "main distribution", 
> >> meaning they ship directly with
> >> Racket and don't have to be installed by users. Contributing to these 
> >> packages can be a little trickier because sometimes they depend on the 
> >> latest version of Racket's core, meaning you'll have to compile Racket's 
> >> core from source.
> 

Re: [racket-users] Open source projects

2017-10-20 Thread 'John Clements' via Racket Users

> On Oct 20, 2017, at 8:06 AM, Vincent St-Amour 
>  wrote:
> 
> That page is pretty out of date.
> 
> This list is more focused on contributing to Racket itself, but is more
> up to date. It was compiled for the "office hours" portion of the last
> RacketCon, ~2 weeks ago.
> 
>  https://github.com/racket/racket/wiki/Racketeer-Office-Hours-2017-Task-Ideas

There’s something that I now want, and I’m not sure which list to add it to. 
Following a discussion with William Hatch about shell usage in Racket, what I 
think I really want is auto-completion of filenames in DrRacket, probably using 
a pop-up. That is: I type a string containing a path fragment, and then I hit, 
say, C-c C-r or some other unused combination (ha!), and I get a dialog that 
will allow me with a small number of keystrokes to auto-complete to the 
filename that I’m looking for.

Should be not-too-impossible.

If I get a spare ten hours, I’d love to do it myself… 

Which list should I add this to?

John

cc: william hatch except I’m too busy to 

> 
> Vincent
> 
> 
> On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 05:14:28 -0500,
> Stephen De Gabrielle wrote:
>> 
>> There is also a suggested projects page on the wiki
>> 
>> https://github.com/racket/racket/wiki/Intro-Projects
>> 
>> I don’t know if it is still accurate.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> Stephen
>> 
>> On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 at 06:45, Jack Firth  wrote:
>> 
>> Welcome, we're very glad to have you!
>> 
>> Open source Racket projects are scattered all over the place, but here are 
>> some good ways to find actively maintained and hopefully accessible projects 
>> that might interest you:
>> 
>> - Watch some talks from recent RacketCons, especially the most recent one 
>> (which, conveniently, was barely a week and a half ago). A lot of talks are 
>> on interesting and wildly unusual open source projects, and as a bonus most 
>> presenters
>> give out their contact information so people can reach out if they have 
>> questions or might be interested in contributing. You can find information 
>> on the most recent RacketCon at con.racket-lang.org including video and 
>> livestream recordings,
>> talk descriptions, and slides for each talk. Info for previous RacketCons 
>> are available at con.racket-lang.org/2016/, con.racket-lang.org/2015/, etc. 
>> Alas we don't yet have individual prettily-edited videos for each talk at 
>> RacketCon 2017; they're
>> only viewable via the saved livestream on youtube.
>> - Search the official package catalog at pkgs.racket-lang.org for packages 
>> whose descriptions sound interesting and which are hosted on GitHub / GitLab 
>> / some other platform that makes it easy to contribute. Every package 
>> includes links to its
>> docs and repostiory, as well as a contact email address for whoever 
>> maintains it. If you're not looking for a package in a particular problem 
>> domain your best bet is probably to restrict your search to only packages 
>> that build, have passing tests,
>> and have docs. Decent issue / todo lists in the project repo are a nice 
>> bonus.
>> - Browse around the front page of the online Racket documentation at 
>> docs.racket-lang.org. The online docs includes all docs from all 
>> successfully built user packages at pkgs.racket-lang.org, grouped into top 
>> level categories. Once you find
>> some docs for a project that's interesting, it's (hopefully!) not difficult 
>> to find the package containing those docs by searching pkgs.racket-lang.org.
>> - Hop in the Racket IRC (#racket on freenode) or the Racket Slack channel 
>> (signup at racket-slack.herokuapp.com) and ask around about what people are 
>> working on. I'm sure many folks will be delighted to talk about their 
>> projects. And this
>> mailing list isn't a bad place to ask either.
>> - If you want to try something more ambitious, you can take a peek at the 
>> Github repos in the "racket" organization (https://github.com/racket). These 
>> are all (or mostly? not sure) packages in the "main distribution", meaning 
>> they ship directly with
>> Racket and don't have to be installed by users. Contributing to these 
>> packages can be a little trickier because sometimes they depend on the 
>> latest version of Racket's core, meaning you'll have to compile Racket's 
>> core from source.
>> 
>> Also, all throughout this month Github and DigitalOcean are hosting an 
>> online event called Hacktoberfest. By signing up at 
>> https://hacktoberfest.digitalocean.com/ you'll get a free tshirt mailed to 
>> you if you submit four or more pull requests to any
>> public repositories on Github before October ends. It doesn't matter how 
>> large each pull request is and a pull request to your own repo counts. And 
>> speaking from experience, they're very comfortable shirts.
>> 
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Re: [racket-users] Open source projects

2017-10-19 Thread Guthrie Price
I am currently a senior in college. I have done some research in machine 
learning and computer security, but I wouldn't say I am particularly 
proficient at either. I have interests in different areas of computing 
including machine learning, computer security, graphics, and numerical 
analysis. However I do not necessarily want a project in these areas. I am 
expecting some significant overhead in order to be able to begin making 
meaningful contributions. My main goal is join a community and help where I 
can while also enriching myself.

Gus

On Thursday, October 19, 2017 at 3:59:33 PM UTC-7, James wrote:
>
> > 
> > I am very new to the community and am looking for an open source project 
> to work on. I was wondering if anybody knows of some good resources for 
> finding open source projects or any recommendations. I appreciate any help 
> I can get. 
>
> Do you have any particular areas of skill like networking, cryptography, 
> data compression, etc.? 
>
> James

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Re: [racket-users] Open source projects

2017-10-19 Thread James
> 
> I am very new to the community and am looking for an open source project to 
> work on. I was wondering if anybody knows of some good resources for finding 
> open source projects or any recommendations. I appreciate any help I can get.

Do you have any particular areas of skill like networking, cryptography, data 
compression, etc.?

James

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[racket-users] Open source projects

2017-10-19 Thread Guthrie Price
Hello all,

I am very new to the community and am looking for an open source project to 
work on. I was wondering if anybody knows of some good resources for finding 
open source projects or any recommendations. I appreciate any help I can get.

Thank you for your time,
Gus

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