Re: [racket-users] Re: jest...@gmail.com Trouble installing DrRacket

2021-09-14 Thread Matthew Flatt
At Tue, 14 Sep 2021 01:54:44 -0400, George Neuner wrote:
> Is there a list somewhere of which chips have successfully run Racket?
> Or a definitive statement of what ISA is targeted?

For Racket CS, there's a list here:

 https://github.com/racket/racket/tree/master/racket/src/ChezScheme

Granted, that's not the most visible place. That location makes sense
when the Racket branch of Chez Scheme is extracted to its own repo, but
probably the documentation should have it's own list or link to that
list.


For Racket BC, the question is murkier. Racket BC should run on any
platform with a C compiler and enough libraries, although having the
right configuration can be an issue. So, historically, Racket BC is
meant to work on all platforms (misconfiguration treated a bug), and
that's why there hasn't been a list. For the JIT, there's a list in the
documentation:

  https://docs.racket-lang.org/guide/performance.html#%28tech._jit%29

That list could be improved because, as you say, "32-bit ARM" is not
really descriptive enough. It should say something like "ARMv4 and up",
and it should clarify that Windows ARM is not supported (where I expect
that it's more than a matter of configuration to support Windows, and
32-bit Windows ARM seems to be rare, anyway).

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Re: [racket-users] Re: jest...@gmail.com Trouble installing DrRacket

2021-09-13 Thread George Neuner


On 9/13/2021 10:34 PM, Matthew Flatt wrote:

Just to clarify: Racket runs on a number of ARM variants when running
Linux and other Unix-like operating systems, but we have not yet ported
to Windows on ARM.

Matthew


Is there a list somewhere of which chips have successfully run Racket?
Or a definitive statement of what ISA is targeted?

Just saying "if it runs Linux ..." isn't terribly helpful. /[I realize 
that you did not actually say that.]/   Linux can run in Thumb2, and the 
last time I checked there were at least 4 different ARM architectures 
for which Linux (or some reasonable subset) had been made to run on some 
representative chip.


Doesn't mean Racket will run on it.  It's really applications that 
stress chips, not operating systems.


YMMV,
George


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Re: [racket-users] Re: jest...@gmail.com Trouble installing DrRacket

2021-09-13 Thread Matthew Flatt
Just to clarify: Racket runs on a number of ARM variants when running
Linux and other Unix-like operating systems, but we have not yet ported
to Windows on ARM.

Matthew

At Mon, 13 Sep 2021 11:21:57 -0700 (PDT), Nathan Philippon wrote:
> I think you're right, thanks.
> 
> On Monday, September 13, 2021 at 2:06:03 p.m. UTC-4 gneuner2 wrote:
> 
> >
> > On 9/13/2021 1:02 PM, Nathan Philippon wrote:
> >
> > It's a Samsung GalaxyBook
> >
> > On Monday, September 13, 2021 at 12:48:06 p.m. UTC-4 jest...@gmail.com 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Yeah, I don't think Racket supports windows on arm devices. I'm guessing 
> >> this is a chromebook or something? HP? Dell? 
> >> On Monday, September 13, 2021 at 8:44:08 AM UTC-7 hockeyfa...@gmail.com 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I tried replying in the same thread but my messages kept getting 
> >>> deleted. 
> >>> Processor: Snapdragon (TM) 7c Gen 2 @ 2.55 GHz   2.55 GHz
> >>> RAM: 4.00GB
> >>>
> >>
> > Disclaimer:  I am not part of the Racket development team.
> >
> > I don't think Racket is supported on a Chromebook.  Even so, there are a 
> > number of issues with running Racket on ARM ... there simply are too many 
> > variations of ARM chips to test the code on all of them.  Some just can't 
> > run the current codebases (BC or CS), and I am pretty sure BC's JIT 
> > compiler is not supported on any of them.
> >
> > It may be that Racket (currently) just won't work on your chip.  Or it may 
> > be something with ChromeOS.
> >
> >
> > Sorry.  I know this wasn't particularly helpful.
> > George
> >
> 
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Re: [racket-users] Re: jest...@gmail.com Trouble installing DrRacket

2021-09-13 Thread Nathan Philippon
I think you're right, thanks.

On Monday, September 13, 2021 at 2:06:03 p.m. UTC-4 gneuner2 wrote:

>
> On 9/13/2021 1:02 PM, Nathan Philippon wrote:
>
> It's a Samsung GalaxyBook
>
> On Monday, September 13, 2021 at 12:48:06 p.m. UTC-4 jest...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, I don't think Racket supports windows on arm devices. I'm guessing 
>> this is a chromebook or something? HP? Dell? 
>> On Monday, September 13, 2021 at 8:44:08 AM UTC-7 hockeyfa...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I tried replying in the same thread but my messages kept getting 
>>> deleted. 
>>> Processor: Snapdragon (TM) 7c Gen 2 @ 2.55 GHz   2.55 GHz
>>> RAM: 4.00GB
>>>
>>
> Disclaimer:  I am not part of the Racket development team.
>
> I don't think Racket is supported on a Chromebook.  Even so, there are a 
> number of issues with running Racket on ARM ... there simply are too many 
> variations of ARM chips to test the code on all of them.  Some just can't 
> run the current codebases (BC or CS), and I am pretty sure BC's JIT 
> compiler is not supported on any of them.
>
> It may be that Racket (currently) just won't work on your chip.  Or it may 
> be something with ChromeOS.
>
>
> Sorry.  I know this wasn't particularly helpful.
> George
>

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Re: [racket-users] Re: jest...@gmail.com Trouble installing DrRacket

2021-09-13 Thread George Neuner


On 9/13/2021 1:02 PM, Nathan Philippon wrote:

It's a Samsung GalaxyBook

On Monday, September 13, 2021 at 12:48:06 p.m. UTC-4 jest...@gmail.com 
wrote:


Yeah, I don't think Racket supports windows on arm devices. I'm
guessing this is a chromebook or something? HP? Dell?
On Monday, September 13, 2021 at 8:44:08 AM UTC-7
hockeyfa...@gmail.com wrote:

I tried replying in the same thread but my messages kept
getting deleted.
Processor: Snapdragon (TM) 7c Gen 2 @ 2.55 GHz   2.55 GHz
RAM: 4.00GB



Disclaimer:  I am not part of the Racket development team.

I don't think Racket is supported on a Chromebook.  Even so, there are a 
number of issues with running Racket on ARM ... there simply are too 
many variations of ARM chips to test the code on all of them.  Some just 
can't run the current codebases (BC or CS), and I am pretty sure BC's 
JIT compiler is not supported on any of them.


It may be that Racket (currently) just won't work on your chip.  Or it 
may be something with ChromeOS.



Sorry.  I know this wasn't particularly helpful.
George

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[racket-users] Re: jest...@gmail.com Trouble installing DrRacket

2021-09-13 Thread Nathan Philippon
It's a Samsung GalaxyBook

On Monday, September 13, 2021 at 12:48:06 p.m. UTC-4 jest...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Yeah, I don't think Racket supports windows on arm devices. I'm guessing 
> this is a chromebook or something? HP? Dell?
> On Monday, September 13, 2021 at 8:44:08 AM UTC-7 hockeyfa...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I tried replying in the same thread but my messages kept getting deleted.
>> Processor: Snapdragon (TM) 7c Gen 2 @ 2.55 GHz   2.55 GHz
>> RAM: 4.00GB
>>
>

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[racket-users] Re: jest...@gmail.com Trouble installing DrRacket

2021-09-13 Thread jest array
Yeah, I don't think Racket supports windows on arm devices. I'm guessing 
this is a chromebook or something? HP? Dell?
On Monday, September 13, 2021 at 8:44:08 AM UTC-7 hockeyfa...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> I tried replying in the same thread but my messages kept getting deleted.
> Processor: Snapdragon (TM) 7c Gen 2 @ 2.55 GHz   2.55 GHz
> RAM: 4.00GB
>

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