Re: [racket-users] the Racket manifesto

2015-04-09 Thread Alexis King
I think Greg Hendershott’s Fear of Macros tutorial is pretty top-notch. Would it make any sense to adapt and incorporate that into the Racket docs? > On Apr 9, 2015, at 12:28, Geoffrey Knauth wrote: > > Since from his first months learning Racke

Re: [racket-users] the Racket manifesto

2015-04-09 Thread Geoffrey Knauth
Since from his first months learning Racket, my son Alex immediately started diving into the language-altering aspects of Racket, when you do develop a tutorial/pedagogy for that, you might see what reaction he has. On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 8:18:53 AM UTC-4, Matthias Felleisen wrote: > On

Re: [racket-users] the Racket manifesto

2015-03-27 Thread Matthias Felleisen
On Mar 27, 2015, at 4:11 AM, Konrad Hinsen wrote: > Matthias Felleisen writes: > A web site is an ad. >>> >>> As is a research paper. It's the audience that differs. >> >> I am sorry but you embrace modern CS departments too much, >> and there is push-back coming about. Don't bother me w

Re: [racket-users] the Racket manifesto

2015-03-27 Thread Konrad Hinsen
Matthias Felleisen writes: > >> A web site is an ad. > > > > As is a research paper. It's the audience that differs. > > I am sorry but you embrace modern CS departments too much, > and there is push-back coming about. Don't bother me with > papers that I can't reconstruct and accept af

Re: [racket-users] the Racket manifesto

2015-03-26 Thread Matthias Felleisen
[I am sorry for replying again on this sub-thread, but your first statement makes me very sad and the second one points out a serious flaw in our web prose.] On Mar 26, 2015, at 11:02 AM, Konrad Hinsen wrote: >> A web site is an ad. > > As is a research paper. It's the audience that differs

Re: [racket-users] the Racket manifesto

2015-03-26 Thread Konrad Hinsen
Matthias Felleisen writes: > Here we go: > > 0. open drracket > 1. type "(" > 2. hit > 3. stare at the two spaces of indentation in sheer amazement > 4. relax, type ")" > > Smile. Now you're a Racketeer. Thanks - now I feel enlightened! > A web site is an ad. As is a research pa

Re: [racket-users] the Racket manifesto

2015-03-26 Thread Matthias Felleisen
On Mar 26, 2015, at 7:42 AM, Konrad Hinsen wrote: > I must be missing something interesting. Is there some tutorial on the Rites > of Racket? ;-) I meant to address this one but a separate message is better anyway. Here we go: 0. open drracket 1. type "(" 2. hit 3. stare at the two space

Re: [racket-users] the Racket manifesto

2015-03-26 Thread Matthias Felleisen
On Mar 26, 2015, at 7:42 AM, Konrad Hinsen wrote: > In my opinion, it would be interesting to develop a pedagogical > approach to the language development theme in the form of tutorials, > books, or presentations. Maybe even a "teaching language" with a > simplified version of syntax/parse. The g

Re: [racket-users] the Racket manifesto

2015-03-26 Thread Konrad Hinsen
Matthias Felleisen writes: > Neil, I wrote this paper _because_ academia perceives Racket as a cult. Wow. I must be missing something interesting. Is there some tutorial on the Rites of Racket? ;-) I am in academia, but quite remote from the Racket hotspots both thematically and geographicall

Re: [racket-users] the Racket manifesto

2015-03-25 Thread Matthias Felleisen
On Mar 24, 2015, at 11:15 PM, Matthias Felleisen wrote: > On Mar 24, 2015, at 10:34 PM, Neil Van Dyke wrote: > >> Shortly after I declare that Racket is not a cult, Racket goes and issues a >> manifesto. >> >> Neil V. Neil, I wrote this paper _because_ academia perceives Racket as a cult.

Re: [racket-users] the Racket manifesto

2015-03-24 Thread Matthew Butterick
Care for a banana, Neil? But seriously, what a terrific document to put together. Thank you for this. Racket's combination of long-term planning and near-term nimbleness is without peer. On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 7:36 PM, Robby Findler wrote: > I consider this title a form of self-mockery, don't

Re: [racket-users] the Racket manifesto

2015-03-24 Thread Robby Findler
I consider this title a form of self-mockery, don't you know. Robby On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Neil Van Dyke wrote: > Shortly after I declare that Racket is not a cult, Racket goes and issues a > manifesto. > > Neil V. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: [racket-users] the Racket manifesto

2015-03-24 Thread Neil Van Dyke
Shortly after I declare that Racket is not a cult, Racket goes and issues a manifesto. Neil V. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Racket Users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to racket-users+uns

[racket-users] the Racket manifesto

2015-03-24 Thread Matthias Felleisen
We have just submitted the Racket manifesto for publication. If you'd like to take a look at what has been on our mind, here is scribbled version: http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/matthias/Tmp/manifesto/ The PDF is linked in. -- Matthias Typos/scribbelos: to matth...@ccs.neu.edu Commen