Re: [racket-users] typed/racket #:break #:guard

2018-01-27 Thread JCG
Sam, thanks very much for the response. 

I only looked at the documentation for for/first after Dr Racket said "add 
more type annotations" a few times.  From a user viewpoint, I feel that a 
usually non-functioning form would benefit from an example of working usage 
so that I can bend my form to fit any limitations. In most places, 
transitioning my code to Typed Racket worked so easily that I came to 
expect my forms to work.

I'm glad that #:break is not a usage mistake, because I'm definitely 
replacing for/first with for/fold with a #:break. 

I'm not sure what to say on #:guard, except that it makes moving some 
non-TR code easier.

By the way, removing contracts and adding types on about 2500 lines 
resulted in about 10 LOC difference.  The speed of runtime code slightly 
favors TR.

-JG


On Saturday, January 27, 2018 at 3:33:44 PM UTC-5, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt 
wrote:
>
> Hi JG, 
>
> You're correct that the `for/first` and `for/last` forms don't work 
> usually in TR, but that's what the documentation says: "Like the 
> above, except they are not yet supported by the typechecker.". Is 
> there a different way that could be phrased to make this clearer? 
>
> The omission of `#:break` in the documentation is just an oversight. A 
> PR fixing that would be welcome, or I'll try to do it soon. 
>
> `#:guard` is not intended to be used, because the type checker doesn't 
> understand what it does. However, some existing TR code relies on the 
> current treatment, so it isn't an error. 
>
> Sam 
>
> On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 6:06 AM, JCG > 
> wrote: 
> > 
> > In doing some typed/racket, I have noticed some mismatch between 
> observed 
> > behavior and the documentation at 
> > 
> > https://docs.racket-lang.org/ts-reference/special-forms.html 
> > 
> > 1) Documentation suggests that for/first and for/last should work, yet 
> they 
> > seem to not type check.  I've noticed sparse comments to that effect 
> since 
> > 2014. 
> > 
> > 2) In working around for/first with for/fold, I discovered that #:break 
> > appears to function although the for loop documentation for typed racket 
> > (Section 2.3 in typed/racket reference) suggests that only the #:when 
> guard 
> > is a keyword in the for/ family syntax. 
> > 
> > 3) In the struct documentation for typed racket, the many for syntax 
> > keywords shown do not include #:guard, yet it seems to work. 
> > 
> > Are #:break and #:guard correct to use in typed/racket or are they 
> missing 
> > from the documentation intentionally? 
> > 
> > Thanks, 
> > JG 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [racket-users] typed/racket #:break #:guard

2018-01-27 Thread Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
Hi JG,

You're correct that the `for/first` and `for/last` forms don't work
usually in TR, but that's what the documentation says: "Like the
above, except they are not yet supported by the typechecker.". Is
there a different way that could be phrased to make this clearer?

The omission of `#:break` in the documentation is just an oversight. A
PR fixing that would be welcome, or I'll try to do it soon.

`#:guard` is not intended to be used, because the type checker doesn't
understand what it does. However, some existing TR code relies on the
current treatment, so it isn't an error.

Sam

On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 6:06 AM, JCG  wrote:
>
> In doing some typed/racket, I have noticed some mismatch between observed
> behavior and the documentation at
>
> https://docs.racket-lang.org/ts-reference/special-forms.html
>
> 1) Documentation suggests that for/first and for/last should work, yet they
> seem to not type check.  I've noticed sparse comments to that effect since
> 2014.
>
> 2) In working around for/first with for/fold, I discovered that #:break
> appears to function although the for loop documentation for typed racket
> (Section 2.3 in typed/racket reference) suggests that only the #:when guard
> is a keyword in the for/ family syntax.
>
> 3) In the struct documentation for typed racket, the many for syntax
> keywords shown do not include #:guard, yet it seems to work.
>
> Are #:break and #:guard correct to use in typed/racket or are they missing
> from the documentation intentionally?
>
> Thanks,
> JG
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[racket-users] typed/racket #:break #:guard

2018-01-26 Thread JCG

In doing some typed/racket, I have noticed some mismatch between observed 
behavior and the documentation at

https://docs.racket-lang.org/ts-reference/special-forms.html

1) Documentation suggests that for/first and for/last should work, yet they 
seem to not type check.  I've noticed sparse comments to that effect since 
2014.

2) In working around for/first with for/fold, I discovered that #:break 
appears to function although the for loop documentation for typed racket 
(Section 2.3 in typed/racket reference) suggests that only the #:when guard 
is a keyword in the for/ family syntax. 

3) In the struct documentation for typed racket, the many for syntax 
keywords shown do not include #:guard, yet it seems to work.

Are #:break and #:guard correct to use in typed/racket or are they missing 
from the documentation intentionally?

Thanks,
JG








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