Re: [Radiant] Adminstrator and Developer role clarification

2008-06-22 Thread Sean Cribbs
If you look at the mockups repo and in the 'blade' directory, you'll see 
there is a 'Design' tab in the interface.  I imagine that role will be 
changing names as we implement that UI.


Sean

Steven Southard wrote:


On Jun 22, 2008, at 4:45 AM, Anton Aylward wrote:


Chris Parrish said the following on 21/06/08 11:51 PM:


John,  have you ever considered changing the name "developer" to
"designer"?  I think it'd be more clear.


Why?

A 'developer' is someone who develops content.
This is obvious to anyone except a programmer.


Ironic, but true.
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Re: [Radiant] Adminstrator and Developer role clarification

2008-06-22 Thread Steven Southard


On Jun 22, 2008, at 4:45 AM, Anton Aylward wrote:


Chris Parrish said the following on 21/06/08 11:51 PM:


John,  have you ever considered changing the name "developer" to
"designer"?  I think it'd be more clear.


Why?

A 'developer' is someone who develops content.
This is obvious to anyone except a programmer.


Ironic, but true.
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Re: [Radiant] Adminstrator and Developer role clarification

2008-06-22 Thread Anton Aylward
Chris Parrish said the following on 21/06/08 11:51 PM:

> John,  have you ever considered changing the name "developer" to 
> "designer"?  I think it'd be more clear.

Why?

A 'developer' is someone who develops content.
This is obvious to anyone except a programmer.

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Re: [Radiant] Adminstrator and Developer role clarification

2008-06-21 Thread Chris Parrish
John,  have you ever considered changing the name "developer" to 
"designer"?  I think it'd be more clear.


Also, I'd think clarity could be further improved by:

   * Showing that there is a Basic user privilege level that is applied
 when Administrator and Developer are not checked.  It's not always
 clear that you still get something when all the options are
 unchecked and it's certainly not clear what that "something" is
 permitted to do. (Perhaps a name like "Writer" or "Author" would
 help).

   * Currently, Radiant's permission structure has 3 permission levels
 -- each with progressively more authority (i.e. Developer = Basic
 User + Unique Developer Powers and Administrator = Developer +
 Unique Admin Powers).  So checking Administrator *and* Developer
 makes no sense -- yet today this is an option.  That's really
 where this thread's question comes from.

 I can think of several ways to prevent this confusion to users but
 first the decision needs to be made whether this progression of
 powers is the best approach or whether roles should only consist
 of their unique capabilities (i.e. Admin just includes permissions
 to edit Users and Extension not any Developer stuff -- to get
 those privileges, you'd need to add the Developer role to your
 user).  I'm used to the former since that's what we have today but
 I can think of cases where I'd have an Admin who doesn't have
 Developer privileges.  The latter method is also more extensible
 since others may add roles that don't fit the subset/superset
 approach.


-Chris



John W. Long wrote:

On Jun 21, 2008, at 4:21 PM, Alex Wayne wrote:

Are my assumptions right?  I just want to be sure that in my public
extensions I am exposing the right sections to the right users.



Nope.

An administrator is a superuser. A developer can do everything, but 
create and edit other users. The two roles are really more akin to 
"root" and "designer".


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Re: [Radiant] Adminstrator and Developer role clarification

2008-06-21 Thread John W. Long

On Jun 21, 2008, at 4:21 PM, Alex Wayne wrote:

Are my assumptions right?  I just want to be sure that in my public
extensions I am exposing the right sections to the right users.



Nope.

An administrator is a superuser. A developer can do everything, but  
create and edit other users. The two roles are really more akin to  
"root" and "designer".


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http://wiseheartdesign.com
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