Re: [Radiant] Importing Exporting
Adam ...the super_export (which is the only one of the two that will work for this) will put its files there too. The import_export extension can provide a custom path to a yaml file, so could also be used for this. e.g.: rake db:export TEMPLATE=db/path/to/export.yml rake db:import TEMPLATE=db/path/to/export.yml Drew ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
Re: [Radiant] Importing Exporting
Chris Parrish wrote: I'm looking for a good way to backup/restore all of my content for a Radiant App. I'm want something that collects all the data (including extension models). I'm aware of Import-Export and Super Import-Export but I can't seem to find anything that clearly spells out the differences. Is anyone familiar with both solutions (or any other ones you'd recommend)? I could use some tips. Would a database dump not help? So far, I'm using SQLite, so I just move the database between my PC and the demo site. But, I would have thought that a database dump would manage 'almost' everything. The only thing that gets left behind, unfortunately, is the stuff in public... and I don't know how Page Attachments / Gallery would work across database dumps and restores. I need to think about this not too far in the future... in a way, it's good that you're ahead! Cheers, Mohit. 11/14/2008 | 2:58 AM. ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
Re: [Radiant] Importing Exporting
One of the problems with Radiant being so extensible is that it attracts a lot of software geek-types. ;-) It's no issue for me to do a db dump/restore but I couldn't give that job to my assistant. Plus I'm not sure that that's a friendly format for, say, version controlling a site's content. Anyway, sorry for not being more clear. My goals here are: * It's simple (read: non-technical users love it) * It's db-independent so if my local development environment is Sqlite3 but my server is MySQL or PostgreSQL (or I want to change databases/servers some day) it's no sweat to move content around. * It's collects all of the content (this means styles and scripts ala SnS, and whatever fun extensions I choose to add in the future). * My site's content can be fully restored via import. * Ideally it's in a human readable format so if it's kept in an scm, diff tools can identify changes. * Bonus points for packaging all the files up nicely (like a zip or tarball for download). * Bonus points for managing asset files such as images images (though I'm not holding my breath here). And I'd really *love* it if someone could tell me the difference between import_export and super_export (which I think does import too). -Chris Mohit Sindhwani wrote: Chris Parrish wrote: I'm looking for a good way to backup/restore all of my content for a Radiant App. I'm want something that collects all the data (including extension models). I'm aware of Import-Export and Super Import-Export but I can't seem to find anything that clearly spells out the differences. Is anyone familiar with both solutions (or any other ones you'd recommend)? I could use some tips. Would a database dump not help? So far, I'm using SQLite, so I just move the database between my PC and the demo site. But, I would have thought that a database dump would manage 'almost' everything. The only thing that gets left behind, unfortunately, is the stuff in public... and I don't know how Page Attachments / Gallery would work across database dumps and restores. I need to think about this not too far in the future... in a way, it's good that you're ahead! Cheers, Mohit. 11/14/2008 | 2:58 AM. ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
Re: [Radiant] Importing Exporting
Chris, The import_export extension[1] captures every model in the database within one big yaml file. By default this is saved as db/export.yml. Pros: * very portable Cons: * if you want to edit the records captured in the yaml, they can be quite difficult to find The super_export extension[2] captures every model in the database in its own file. The file format is like this: /db/export/:model_name/:id.yml Pros: * it is easier to locate individual records, should you want to edit them Cons: * less portable export format than a single yaml file There is no harm in installing both extensions, playing around with them and deciding which you prefer. They can both co-exist happily. Of course, things could get confusing if you keep a stale db copy in one format... If your assets are stored on the filesystem, then neither of these extensions will be able to assist in backing them up. I don't know how they would fare if you were storing your assets in the db... I hope that helps. Cheers, Drew [1]: http://github.com/radiant/radiant-import-export-extension/tree/master [2]: http://github.com/Aissac/radiant-super-export-extension/tree/master On 13 Nov 2008, at 22:00, Chris Parrish wrote: One of the problems with Radiant being so extensible is that it attracts a lot of software geek-types. ;-) It's no issue for me to do a db dump/restore but I couldn't give that job to my assistant. Plus I'm not sure that that's a friendly format for, say, version controlling a site's content. Anyway, sorry for not being more clear. My goals here are: * It's simple (read: non-technical users love it) * It's db-independent so if my local development environment is Sqlite3 but my server is MySQL or PostgreSQL (or I want to change databases/servers some day) it's no sweat to move content around. * It's collects all of the content (this means styles and scripts ala SnS, and whatever fun extensions I choose to add in the future). * My site's content can be fully restored via import. * Ideally it's in a human readable format so if it's kept in an scm, diff tools can identify changes. * Bonus points for packaging all the files up nicely (like a zip or tarball for download). * Bonus points for managing asset files such as images images (though I'm not holding my breath here). And I'd really *love* it if someone could tell me the difference between import_export and super_export (which I think does import too). -Chris Mohit Sindhwani wrote: Chris Parrish wrote: I'm looking for a good way to backup/restore all of my content for a Radiant App. I'm want something that collects all the data (including extension models). I'm aware of Import-Export and Super Import-Export but I can't seem to find anything that clearly spells out the differences. Is anyone familiar with both solutions (or any other ones you'd recommend)? I could use some tips. Would a database dump not help? So far, I'm using SQLite, so I just move the database between my PC and the demo site. But, I would have thought that a database dump would manage 'almost' everything. The only thing that gets left behind, unfortunately, is the stuff in public... and I don't know how Page Attachments / Gallery would work across database dumps and restores. I need to think about this not too far in the future... in a way, it's good that you're ahead! Cheers, Mohit. 11/14/2008 | 2:58 AM. ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
Re: [Radiant] Importing Exporting
On 13-Nov-08, at 2:00 PM, Chris Parrish wrote: * It's simple (read: non-technical users love it) * It's db-independent so if my local development environment is Sqlite3 but my server is MySQL or PostgreSQL (or I want to change databases/servers some day) it's no sweat to move content around. * It's collects all of the content (this means styles and scripts ala SnS, and whatever fun extensions I choose to add in the future). * My site's content can be fully restored via import. * Ideally it's in a human readable format so if it's kept in an scm, diff tools can identify changes. * Bonus points for packaging all the files up nicely (like a zip or tarball for download). * Bonus points for managing asset files such as images images (though I'm not holding my breath here). It seems to me that you want to keep a copy of everything in an svn repo so why not simply symlink your assets directory from the repository directory and symlink db/export from the SAME repository. Paperclipped (or what ever) will store all its changes in the symlink and the super_export (which is the only one of the two that will work for this) will put its files there too. Now you simply have to svn add and svn commit and you're laughing. Adam ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
Re: [Radiant] Importing Exporting
Anton Aylward wrote: Hi Anton, Mohit Sindhwani said the following on 11/13/2008 02:01 PM: So far, I'm using SQLite, so I just move the database between my PC and the demo site. How lucky you are! I tried that, moving from my laptop to my ISP and it didn't work. Probably because my laptop runs a 32-bit processor and my ISP runs a 64-bit. Or possibly an OS clash. Or ... That is very strange! SQLite is supposed to be binary compatible - sure it wasn't a problem with extensions? No dump-restore is the way to go! I notice that you have a version management plugin for Radiant. What are you using? Cheers, Mohit. 11/14/2008 | 8:55 AM. ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
