Re: [Radiant] SnS Usage Questions -- I Need Feedback
Good idea. I may have played with the settings and I may have omited the minifier somewhere, but I've no objection to this, not to folding what is a key extension into the distribution package. -- Five exclamation marks, the sure sign of an insane mind. -- Terry Pratchett _Reaper Man_ ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
Re: [Radiant] SnS Usage Questions -- I Need Feedback
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Chris Parrish chris.parrish-forumm...@swankinnovations.com wrote: I'm upgrading/fixing/refactoring SnS right now -- partly to resolve some issues with 0.8.x and partly to get it ready for 0.9 -- and I could use some user feedback... This is exciting! Over at Aissac we have used SnS and SnS Minify for more than 10 sites and it goes into every new Radiant project. 1. Does anyone use custom values for the SnS settings? These include: * css_dir * js_dir * css_mime * js_mime We have never used custom values for these settings. John has suggested I simplify SnS by fixing these values to defaults (convention over configuration). Would this cause any problems for you or your users? Would anyone even notice? 2. Do most of you use SnS Minify along with SnS? Would anyone be opposed to my incorporating it into SnS? I don't mind leaving it as a separate extension but there's no need to make people install two extensions if we're all using both. We install SnS Minify for each SnS installation, because the primary reason for us to use SnS is to speed up asset serving. Fewer requests are good and adding minification even is better. Also, we couple this with gzip compression in Apache. It would make sense to bundle these in the one extension. There is no overhead for having it without being used as far as I can tell. Thanks! -- Istvan Hoka ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
Re: [Radiant] SnS Usage Questions -- I Need Feedback
Hi! Yes, I'am using SnS extension in my projects. And I'am changed SnS settings: * js_dir to = 'jscripts' And that is all! Regards, Mamed Mamedov Sent from Azerbaijan Stephen Leacockhttp://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/s/stephen_leacock.html - I detest life-insurance agents: they always argue that I shall some day die, which is not so. On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Chris Parrish chris.parrish-forumm...@swankinnovations.com wrote: I'm upgrading/fixing/refactoring SnS right now -- partly to resolve some issues with 0.8.x and partly to get it ready for 0.9 -- and I could use some user feedback... 1. Does anyone use custom values for the SnS settings? These include: * css_dir * js_dir * css_mime * js_mime John has suggested I simplify SnS by fixing these values to defaults (convention over configuration). Would this cause any problems for you or your users? Would anyone even notice? 2. Do most of you use SnS Minify along with SnS? Would anyone be opposed to my incorporating it into SnS? I don't mind leaving it as a separate extension but there's no need to make people install two extensions if we're all using both. Thanks, Chris ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
Re: [Radiant] SnS Usage Questions -- I Need Feedback
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Chris Parrish chris.parrish-forumm...@swankinnovations.com wrote: I'm upgrading/fixing/refactoring SnS right now -- partly to resolve some issues with 0.8.x and partly to get it ready for 0.9 -- and I could use some Great News! 1. Does anyone use custom values for the SnS settings? These include: I was always happy to accept your sensible defaults and never customized these settings. 2. Do most of you use SnS Minify along with SnS? Would anyone be opposed to my incorporating it into SnS? I don't mind leaving it as a separate +1 for incorporating SnS Minfy into SnS. Regards, Gus ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
Re: [Radiant] SnS Usage Questions -- I Need Feedback
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 3:32 AM, Chris Parrish chris.parrish-forumm...@swankinnovations.com wrote: I'm upgrading/fixing/refactoring SnS right now -- partly to resolve some issues with 0.8.x and partly to get it ready for 0.9 -- and I could use some user feedback... Been waiting for this. Great news! 1. Does anyone use custom values for the SnS settings? These include: * css_dir * js_dir * css_mime * js_mime John has suggested I simplify SnS by fixing these values to defaults (convention over configuration). Would this cause any problems for you or your users? Would anyone even notice? Don't use. Defaults are fine. 2. Do most of you use SnS Minify along with SnS? Would anyone be opposed to my incorporating it into SnS? I don't mind leaving it as a separate extension but there's no need to make people install two extensions if we're all using both. I like this idea. Thanks. Thanks, Chris ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant -- marshal ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
Re: [Radiant] SnS Usage Questions -- I Need Feedback
And what if I took away that setting an forced you to use the default? Could you live with that? Anyone else? -Chris Mamed Mamedov wrote: Hi! Yes, I'am using SnS extension in my projects. And I'am changed SnS settings: * js_dir to = 'jscripts' And that is all! Regards, Mamed Mamedov Sent from Azerbaijan Stephen Leacockhttp://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/s/stephen_leacock.html - I detest life-insurance agents: they always argue that I shall some day die, which is not so. On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Chris Parrish chris.parrish-forumm...@swankinnovations.com wrote: I'm upgrading/fixing/refactoring SnS right now -- partly to resolve some issues with 0.8.x and partly to get it ready for 0.9 -- and I could use some user feedback... 1. Does anyone use custom values for the SnS settings? These include: * css_dir * js_dir * css_mime * js_mime John has suggested I simplify SnS by fixing these values to defaults (convention over configuration). Would this cause any problems for you or your users? Would anyone even notice? 2. Do most of you use SnS Minify along with SnS? Would anyone be opposed to my incorporating it into SnS? I don't mind leaving it as a separate extension but there's no need to make people install two extensions if we're all using both. Thanks, Chris ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
Re: [Radiant] SnS Usage Questions -- I Need Feedback
How are you setting this value? Are you using the built-in rake tasks or editing the database directly. -Chris Mamed Mamedov wrote: :) Hm.. I think there is no problem with that, BUT - I don't know why my installation of radiant does not working with default value of js_dir setting. (on all of my projects). Simply, it gives 404 error :( When changing this setting to anything else - it works ok :) On 10/9/09, Chris Parrish chris.parrish-forumm...@swankinnovations.com wrote: And what if I took away that setting an forced you to use the default? Could you live with that? Anyone else? -Chris Mamed Mamedov wrote: Hi! Yes, I'am using SnS extension in my projects. And I'am changed SnS settings: * js_dir to = 'jscripts' And that is all! Regards, Mamed Mamedov Sent from Azerbaijan Stephen Leacockhttp://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/s/stephen_leacock.html - I detest life-insurance agents: they always argue that I shall some day die, which is not so. On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Chris Parrish chris.parrish-forumm...@swankinnovations.com wrote: I'm upgrading/fixing/refactoring SnS right now -- partly to resolve some issues with 0.8.x and partly to get it ready for 0.9 -- and I could use some user feedback... 1. Does anyone use custom values for the SnS settings? These include: * css_dir * js_dir * css_mime * js_mime John has suggested I simplify SnS by fixing these values to defaults (convention over configuration). Would this cause any problems for you or your users? Would anyone even notice? 2. Do most of you use SnS Minify along with SnS? Would anyone be opposed to my incorporating it into SnS? I don't mind leaving it as a separate extension but there's no need to make people install two extensions if we're all using both. Thanks, Chris ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
Re: [Radiant] SnS Usage Questions -- I Need Feedback
First, I'am used built-in rake tasks, but when I've installed Settings extension I'm setting this value through admin-interface :) On 10/10/09, Chris Parrish chris.parrish-forumm...@swankinnovations.com wrote: How are you setting this value? Are you using the built-in rake tasks or editing the database directly. -Chris Mamed Mamedov wrote: :) Hm.. I think there is no problem with that, BUT - I don't know why my installation of radiant does not working with default value of js_dir setting. (on all of my projects). Simply, it gives 404 error :( When changing this setting to anything else - it works ok :) On 10/9/09, Chris Parrish chris.parrish-forumm...@swankinnovations.com wrote: And what if I took away that setting an forced you to use the default? Could you live with that? Anyone else? -Chris Mamed Mamedov wrote: Hi! Yes, I'am using SnS extension in my projects. And I'am changed SnS settings: * js_dir to = 'jscripts' And that is all! Regards, Mamed Mamedov Sent from Azerbaijan Stephen Leacockhttp://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/s/stephen_leacock.html - I detest life-insurance agents: they always argue that I shall some day die, which is not so. On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Chris Parrish chris.parrish-forumm...@swankinnovations.com wrote: I'm upgrading/fixing/refactoring SnS right now -- partly to resolve some issues with 0.8.x and partly to get it ready for 0.9 -- and I could use some user feedback... 1. Does anyone use custom values for the SnS settings? These include: * css_dir * js_dir * css_mime * js_mime John has suggested I simplify SnS by fixing these values to defaults (convention over configuration). Would this cause any problems for you or your users? Would anyone even notice? 2. Do most of you use SnS Minify along with SnS? Would anyone be opposed to my incorporating it into SnS? I don't mind leaving it as a separate extension but there's no need to make people install two extensions if we're all using both. Thanks, Chris ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant -- Regards, Mamed Mamedov ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
Re: [Radiant] SnS Usage Questions -- I Need Feedback
Ah-ha. The challenge with the Settings Extension is that it makes some very simple assumptions about settings. It's not it's fault, really, it just can't account for the needs of extensions. You can use it with SnS but you will run into two issues: 1. SnS enforces validation rules on the settings (for instance you can't name your js_dir: \\my new, cool js directory//). The rake tasks run setting changes through the SnS::Config class which validates them. That way you don't accidentally input something that would break things. 2. SnS loads its config values into memory at startup so that every time the system needs a setting value, there isn't an extra db hit required. Changing the db directly, doesn't change the in-memory version. The rake task changes both. So, if you use the Settings Extension with SnS, you'll need to: 1. Be careful with your setting names (not an issue for most developers but I'd be careful opening that up to general users). 2. Restart your application to force SnS to read the db values into memory. If that still doesn't work, let me know (we'd have a bug on our hands, then). -Chris Mamed Mamedov wrote: First, I'am used built-in rake tasks, but when I've installed Settings extension I'm setting this value through admin-interface :) On 10/10/09, Chris Parrish chris.parrish-forumm...@swankinnovations.com wrote: How are you setting this value? Are you using the built-in rake tasks or editing the database directly. -Chris Mamed Mamedov wrote: :) Hm.. I think there is no problem with that, BUT - I don't know why my installation of radiant does not working with default value of js_dir setting. (on all of my projects). Simply, it gives 404 error :( When changing this setting to anything else - it works ok :) On 10/9/09, Chris Parrish chris.parrish-forumm...@swankinnovations.com wrote: And what if I took away that setting an forced you to use the default? Could you live with that? Anyone else? -Chris Mamed Mamedov wrote: Hi! Yes, I'am using SnS extension in my projects. And I'am changed SnS settings: * js_dir to = 'jscripts' And that is all! Regards, Mamed Mamedov Sent from Azerbaijan Stephen Leacockhttp://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/s/stephen_leacock.html - I detest life-insurance agents: they always argue that I shall some day die, which is not so. On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Chris Parrish chris.parrish-forumm...@swankinnovations.com wrote: I'm upgrading/fixing/refactoring SnS right now -- partly to resolve some issues with 0.8.x and partly to get it ready for 0.9 -- and I could use some user feedback... 1. Does anyone use custom values for the SnS settings? These include: * css_dir * js_dir * css_mime * js_mime John has suggested I simplify SnS by fixing these values to defaults (convention over configuration). Would this cause any problems for you or your users? Would anyone even notice? 2. Do most of you use SnS Minify along with SnS? Would anyone be opposed to my incorporating it into SnS? I don't mind leaving it as a separate extension but there's no need to make people install two extensions if we're all using both. Thanks, Chris ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
