Re: [Radiant] Volunteers Needed! Radiant Wiki Migration
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 11:26 PM, John W. Long johnwlong2...@gmail.com wrote: Its just another thing to maintain. One of the chief advantages of migrating stuff over to github is that upgrades and maintenance are free. I'd say that Redmine does more than github but I can also understand your point. -- Ollivier Robert - ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
Re: [Radiant] Volunteers Needed! Radiant Wiki Migration
Ollivier Robert wrote: Why not using Redmine (redmine.org) it is also Rails based, has its own forums/wiki/repository managements and a nice interface? I've been using it for http://dev.keltia.net/ with great success (while www.keltia.net is radiant). It looks like some of the projects they mention as success stories have themselves moved their wikis to git (e.g. Typo). ~Nate ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
Re: [Radiant] Volunteers Needed! Radiant Wiki Migration
Hi! Are we really 100% sure that we want to keep the project forever at GitHub? I mean not so long ago SVN was the standard for Rails projects, now Git is in five years something else might be. And even though we'd stick to using Git are we sure that we want to host our things at GitHub forever? I'm not holding anything against this move, I just thought that other options should be considered too... since we don't want to make this wiki move very often. cheers, Simon On Apr 7, 2009, at 19:58 , John W. Long wrote: Hello Radiant Users, The software that we are using to run the Radiant Wiki seems to constantly have problems. We've decided that it would be better to move to another solution. Right now we are looking at just putting the content in the GitHub project. Every project on GitHub has a wiki so this seems like the ideal solution. Would anyone have time to volunteer to help make this happen? The import could actually be broken down into two parts done by two separate people, or by the same person. 1. Crawling the current wiki (http://wiki.radiantcms.org) and grabing the Textile content for each of the pages. Shoving it into text files with the page name in them (e.g. Using Radiant.textile). You can get a list of all pages here: http://wiki.radiantcms.org/all/list Access the edit action for a page to get at the page content: http://wiki.radiantcms.org/Accessing_Radiants_User_Model/1/edit 2. Taking the content from the text files, munging the content for GitHub, and creating wiki pages on GitHub: http://wiki.github.com/radiant/radiant Once everything is in order we can flip the switch and start directing visitors to the Web site to the new wiki. So can I see a show of hands from people who would like to work on this? Seems like a fun project. It's a great way to give back to the community if you have been looking for way to contribute. -- John Long http://wiseheartdesign.com ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
Re: [Radiant] Volunteers Needed! Radiant Wiki Migration
Simon Rönnqvist wrote: Hi! Are we really 100% sure that we want to keep the project forever at GitHub? I mean not so long ago SVN was the standard for Rails projects, now Git is in five years something else might be. And even though we'd stick to using Git are we sure that we want to host our things at GitHub forever? I'm not holding anything against this move, I just thought that other options should be considered too... since we don't want to make this wiki move very often. Unfortunately, Radiant doesn't have a wiki mode :( otherwise, I'd like to have a Radiant site for the documentation :( Cheers, Mohit. 4/8/2009 | 3:33 PM. ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
Re: [Radiant] Volunteers Needed! Radiant Wiki Migration
On 08.04.2009, at 09:33, Mohit Sindhwani wrote: Simon Rönnqvist wrote: Hi! Are we really 100% sure that we want to keep the project forever at GitHub? I mean not so long ago SVN was the standard for Rails projects, now Git is in five years something else might be. And even though we'd stick to using Git are we sure that we want to host our things at GitHub forever? I'm not holding anything against this move, I just thought that other options should be considered too... since we don't want to make this wiki move very often. Unfortunately, Radiant doesn't have a wiki mode :( otherwise, I'd like to have a Radiant site for the documentation :( Just my 2 cents, but i think it's not the best solution tu use radiant as a wiki engine. There're so many other solution out there, maybe we just should stick to a mature wiki engine and host it for ourselves? Or not ;) Greetings, michael Cheers, Mohit. 4/8/2009 | 3:33 PM. ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant ___m i c h a e l s t a r k e co-founder of HicknHack Software GbR www.hicknhack.com Graphics ___c o n t a c t +49 (170) 3686136 +49 (351) 4045428 cont...@hicknhack.com ___H i c k n H a c k S o f t w a r e G b R maik lathan - andreas reischuck - michael starke hübnerstraße 8 01069 dresden - germany ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
Re: [Radiant] Volunteers Needed! Radiant Wiki Migration
As I was looking for an open source Rails based wiki recently I came across Confluence by Atlassian. It's Java based but they offer a free license for open source projects. http://www.atlassian.com/software/confluence/licensing.jsp#nonprofit I've come across several open source projects using this wiki. John On Apr 8, 2009, at 3:49 AM, michael starke wrote: On 08.04.2009, at 09:33, Mohit Sindhwani wrote: Simon Rönnqvist wrote: Hi! Are we really 100% sure that we want to keep the project forever at GitHub? I mean not so long ago SVN was the standard for Rails projects, now Git is in five years something else might be. And even though we'd stick to using Git are we sure that we want to host our things at GitHub forever? I'm not holding anything against this move, I just thought that other options should be considered too... since we don't want to make this wiki move very often. Unfortunately, Radiant doesn't have a wiki mode :( otherwise, I'd like to have a Radiant site for the documentation :( Just my 2 cents, but i think it's not the best solution tu use radiant as a wiki engine. There're so many other solution out there, maybe we just should stick to a mature wiki engine and host it for ourselves? Or not ;) Greetings, michael Cheers, Mohit. 4/8/2009 | 3:33 PM. ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant ___m i c h a e l s t a r k e co-founder of HicknHack Software GbR www.hicknhack.com Graphics ___c o n t a c t +49 (170) 3686136 +49 (351) 4045428 cont...@hicknhack.com ___H i c k n H a c k S o f t w a r e G b R maik lathan - andreas reischuck - michael starke hübnerstraße 8 01069 dresden - germany ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
Re: [Radiant] Volunteers Needed! Radiant Wiki Migration
On Apr 8, 2009, at 10:49 , michael starke wrote: On 08.04.2009, at 09:33, Mohit Sindhwani wrote: Simon Rönnqvist wrote: Hi! Are we really 100% sure that we want to keep the project forever at GitHub? I mean not so long ago SVN was the standard for Rails projects, now Git is in five years something else might be. And even though we'd stick to using Git are we sure that we want to host our things at GitHub forever? I'm not holding anything against this move, I just thought that other options should be considered too... since we don't want to make this wiki move very often. Unfortunately, Radiant doesn't have a wiki mode :( otherwise, I'd like to have a Radiant site for the documentation :( Just my 2 cents, but i think it's not the best solution tu use radiant as a wiki engine. There're so many other solution out there, maybe we just should stick to a mature wiki engine and host it for ourselves? Or not ;) Greetings, michael Exactly, I wasn't thinking about any wiki system in particular. If nothing good easily easy to integrate into the rest of the site is around then maybe just MediaWiki or something would do, at least people are familiar with it. And remember... GitHub's wiki might not be a bad idea either... I just thought now is a good time to consider the options, to avoid having to move again any time soon. :) (It's actually strange how seldom project's use their wiki, but maybe people preffer using GitHub as a repo only... having a site of their own for the other stuff.) cheers, Simon___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
Re: [Radiant] Volunteers Needed! Radiant Wiki Migration
On Apr 8, 2009, at 2:37 AM, Simon Rönnqvist wrote: Are we really 100% sure that we want to keep the project forever at GitHub? Few things are forever. But this does look like a good strategic move for the future. There isn't a great Ruby-based wiki solution. And if we hosted it ourselves it would be one more thing to keep up and maintain. I've looked at other hosted wiki solutions and have even asked for free hosting on some of the more well-known ones, but didn't get a response. As long as the Rails community is on Git, GitHub will be a great solution. -- John Long http://wiseheartdesign.com___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
Re: [Radiant] Volunteers Needed! Radiant Wiki Migration
On Apr 7, 2009, at 1:21 PM, Steven Southard wrote: I'm happy to help. I'll do the first part or the second. It only looks like about 50 pages. Let me know which you want from me. Awesome Steven. Why don't you start on the first part. -- John Long http://wiseheartdesign.com ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
Re: [Radiant] Volunteers Needed! Radiant Wiki Migration
John W. Long wrote:
On Apr 7, 2009, at 1:21 PM, Steven Southard wrote:
I'm happy to help. I'll do the first part or the second. It only
looks like about 50 pages. Let me know which you want from me.
Awesome Steven. Why don't you start on the first part.
I took a quick look at the site and there's a couple of this that might
help expedite the situation:
The root of the wiki is the 'Documentation' page. I guess orphan pages
will be handled by the GitHub wiki so you can safely ignore those.
But there are a few pages that can be ignored from the beginning (like
the Welcome to Junebug page). Actually this should be easy, the
welcome page has no edit link.
Some pages (like admin and dbPrueba - spanish speaking devs I see :) )
don't have any content. You might want to filter them out as well.
I think the trickiest part will be the images and how to map the links
from one site to the other (see simple_password page).
Some pages are marked as obsolete in the title. I don't know if you
might want to do some cleanup on that as well.
Now, what we did when moving the ruby-lang content was dump the old
content as a Hash (i.e. {:title,:date,:author,:content} ) with yaml and
then pump it back into radiant. That should make a nice simple handover
format for the second stage.
Hmmm, I won't deprive you of the pleasure in doing this Steven, although
my hands have started itching already :)
Cheers,
V.-
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Re: [Radiant] Volunteers Needed! Radiant Wiki Migration
The images look like they can stay were they are for now. Is a txt
file named with the page title containing the page content okay? I
don't see the author and date info, do we need that? If it's okay
I'll make a file for any page that has content under http://wiki.radiantcms.org/all/list
.
Steven
On Apr 7, 2009, at 12:47 PM, Vassilis Rizopoulos wrote:
John W. Long wrote:
On Apr 7, 2009, at 1:21 PM, Steven Southard wrote:
I'm happy to help. I'll do the first part or the second. It only
looks like about 50 pages. Let me know which you want from me.
Awesome Steven. Why don't you start on the first part.
I took a quick look at the site and there's a couple of this that
might help expedite the situation:
The root of the wiki is the 'Documentation' page. I guess orphan
pages will be handled by the GitHub wiki so you can safely ignore
those.
But there are a few pages that can be ignored from the beginning
(like the Welcome to Junebug page). Actually this should be easy,
the welcome page has no edit link.
Some pages (like admin and dbPrueba - spanish speaking devs I
see :) ) don't have any content. You might want to filter them out
as well.
I think the trickiest part will be the images and how to map the
links from one site to the other (see simple_password page).
Some pages are marked as obsolete in the title. I don't know if you
might want to do some cleanup on that as well.
Now, what we did when moving the ruby-lang content was dump the old
content as a Hash (i.e. {:title,:date,:author,:content} ) with yaml
and then pump it back into radiant. That should make a nice simple
handover format for the second stage.
Hmmm, I won't deprive you of the pleasure in doing this Steven,
although my hands have started itching already :)
Cheers,
V.-
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Re: [Radiant] Volunteers Needed! Radiant Wiki Migration
If there's only around 50 pages, that doesn't seem a substantial amount
to a quick audit. Also, any of you can feel free to ask questions about
specific pages.
Something else someone could do that wouldn't take long:
The current Home page on the github wiki is oriented toward developers
looking to get involved and is a near-rote transcription of what was on
the original Trac site. Someone could copy or move this to a more
appropriate page name like For Developers or Contributing or Help
or Getting Started. One could even break this out into separate pages
if necessary.
Sean
Vassilis Rizopoulos wrote:
John W. Long wrote:
On Apr 7, 2009, at 1:21 PM, Steven Southard wrote:
I'm happy to help. I'll do the first part or the second. It only
looks like about 50 pages. Let me know which you want from me.
Awesome Steven. Why don't you start on the first part.
I took a quick look at the site and there's a couple of this that
might help expedite the situation:
The root of the wiki is the 'Documentation' page. I guess orphan pages
will be handled by the GitHub wiki so you can safely ignore those.
But there are a few pages that can be ignored from the beginning (like
the Welcome to Junebug page). Actually this should be easy, the
welcome page has no edit link.
Some pages (like admin and dbPrueba - spanish speaking devs I see :) )
don't have any content. You might want to filter them out as well.
I think the trickiest part will be the images and how to map the links
from one site to the other (see simple_password page).
Some pages are marked as obsolete in the title. I don't know if you
might want to do some cleanup on that as well.
Now, what we did when moving the ruby-lang content was dump the old
content as a Hash (i.e. {:title,:date,:author,:content} ) with yaml
and then pump it back into radiant. That should make a nice simple
handover format for the second stage.
Hmmm, I won't deprive you of the pleasure in doing this Steven,
although my hands have started itching already :)
Cheers,
V.-
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Re: [Radiant] Volunteers Needed! Radiant Wiki Migration
On Apr 7, 2009, at 2:24 PM, Steven Southard wrote: The images look like they can stay were they are for now. Agreed. I believe they are all hosted on other servers. Is a txt file named with the page title containing the page content okay? I don't see the author and date info, do we need that? If it's okay I'll make a file for any page that has content under http://wiki.radiantcms.org/all/list . I think that'd be fine for now. Maybe look through the generated pages before moving on to step 2 and remove any that are bogus. -- John Long http://wiseheartdesign.com ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
Re: [Radiant] Volunteers Needed! Radiant Wiki Migration
Here are the files for part 1: http://stevensouthard.com/radiantwiki.zip On Apr 7, 2009, at 2:24 PM, John W. Long wrote: On Apr 7, 2009, at 2:24 PM, Steven Southard wrote: The images look like they can stay were they are for now. Agreed. I believe they are all hosted on other servers. Is a txt file named with the page title containing the page content okay? I don't see the author and date info, do we need that? If it's okay I'll make a file for any page that has content under http://wiki.radiantcms.org/all/list . I think that'd be fine for now. Maybe look through the generated pages before moving on to step 2 and remove any that are bogus. -- John Long http://wiseheartdesign.com ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
Re: [Radiant] Volunteers Needed! Radiant Wiki Migration
John W. Long wrote: On Apr 7, 2009, at 2:24 PM, Steven Southard wrote: The images look like they can stay were they are for now. Agreed. I believe they are all hosted on other servers. You are right - most of the pictures are screen shots that I had put in. They are all hosted on my site. Is a txt file named with the page title containing the page content okay? I don't see the author and date info, do we need that? If it's okay I'll make a file for any page that has content under http://wiki.radiantcms.org/all/list. I think that'd be fine for now. Maybe look through the generated pages before moving on to step 2 and remove any that are bogus. I'll try and take a look at this later to see how I can put in some time. I hope that the target wiki is still TexTile. Cheers, Mohit. 4/8/2009 | 10:21 AM. ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
