Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-07-21 Thread Whirlygig

Whirlygig;555865 Wrote: 
> Hmm.  I placed an order for 2 from the US website on 5/16.  Still
> nothing.
I received notice yesterday that my order had shipped, and the UPS
tracking link is currently active.  It says I should have them
tomorrow; they left Memphis, TN at 5 AM this morning.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-06-22 Thread iPhone

Fluffdaddy;556514 Wrote: 
> No need for a noob welcome, I been here since Dec 09 and lurking long
> before then that.

I don't look at the date, if I know I haven't posted to them before
they reach 5 posts, then I usually put in the Welcome. Sorry that you
took it to mean newbie, its just a Welcome.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-06-20 Thread kmr

Nazgul;556417 Wrote: 
> Actually I wasn't directing the specifics at you, but at the cadre of
> folks trying to quell discussion here...

The crux of the matter is the phrase "quell discussion".  My readings
of the forums (the Radio forum in particular) isn't that the "senior
members" are trying to "quell discussion", but rather to encourage
posters to describe their problems in a reasonably calm fashion so that
the community (all members) can respond if there is potentially helpful
info out there.

Nobody (pretty much) is denying that a significant number of people
have had and are continuing to have problems with the Radio, and that
by and large those problems seem to be related to immature S/W, both on
the Radio and on MySB.com.  I think that most people have been through
enough new tech angst to feel a good deal of sympathy for those who are
having issues.

It is also clear that fixing the problems permanently lies completely
in the hands of Logitech.  It also appears clear that Logitech doesn't
have sufficient S/W resources devoted to the Squeezebox line right now.
Maybe there's a good reason for that, but for whatever reasons, the
community is mostly in the dark about it.  Sad but true.

But, it is also evident that running a local SBS and using the Radio
through that local SBS seems to solve most of the problems.  That
doesn't mean that anybody is wrong for not using a local SBS - Logitech
absolutely markets the Radio as a standalone box that doesn't need a
local server.  However, the Radio indubitably works a lot better right
now with a local SBS.  I note simply as one data point that I have two
Radios that work just fine, but I use them via a local SBS and mostly
listen to my own library.

So, when people complain about problems with the Radio in the MySB.com
environment, it is proper for others to tell them "if you run a local
SBS, you can eliminate a lot of the problems you're having."  If
someone having problem can't/won't run a local SBS, well, that's
unfortunate, but it was still worthwhile to let them know that there is
a workaround for at least some of the problems, and maybe somebody else
will benefit from knowing that.

The issue is when one uses these forums to simply vent one's spleen,
with no real desire to seek any help at all.  In that case, it is
completely appropriate for others to point out that the ranter is just
ranting, and that it is an abuse of the forums.  That is NOT "quelling
discussion", it is telling somebody who is acting childish to grow up
and play a bit more nicely if they want to be welcome here.  That's a
completely appropriate course of action for a community to take.

Be as vituperative with Logitech as you wish, but don't pollute these
forums with nothing but bile - it's not fair to the rest of us.  Temper
your indignation with some perspective.

On the other hand, what would life be like without people constantly
erecting windmills to tilt at? :-/


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-06-20 Thread Fluffdaddy

iPhone;556142 Wrote: 
> Hello and Welcome to the Forum.
> 
> .

No need for a noob welcome, I been here since Dec 09 and lurking long
before then that.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-06-20 Thread Fluffdaddy

diannabill;556202 Wrote: 
> Thrilled to friggin death!

Ditto


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-06-20 Thread Nazgul

Phil Leigh;556402 Wrote: 
> 1) I have never used the term "senior user"
> 2) Where do I discredit YOUR opinion? - show me the "bullying" of which
> you speak. I am merely expressing my opinion - the one I am entitled to,
> right? - that perhaps some greater degree of moderation is called for.
> 3) If you have been reading this forum for that long (and I have no
> concrete reason to doubt your statement) you will know that I spend a
> lot of time on here trying to help people. 
> 4) I have never used the term "pedestrian"
> 5) I have always agreed that everyone has a right to their opinion
> 6) your use of the term "BS" and the assertion that I "have no life
> outside this forum" are ad hominem/derogatory personal attacks and
> violate forum rules (such as they are).
> 7) Don't presume it upon yourself to tell me what to think or do or
> what "senior users" are here to do or not do
> 
> I think you have revealed your true colours. Welcome to the "ignore
> list".

Actually I wasn't directing the specifics at you, but at the cadre of
folks trying to quell discussion here, though I can see how you would
feel that I was.  The text I quoted of yours was a case in point. 
Also, quoted text can refer to concepts not actual words spoken, and in
this case that's what they were.  Again, you in particular weren't the
target of all of my rant, just your specific quoted text which in
itself was attack-worthy.  Interesting that you want to silence me, but
ignore away.  I'm simply tired of the bullying that goes on around here
in the name of "seniority", maybe it's tenure or something, hard to
say.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-06-20 Thread Phil Leigh

peterw;556404 Wrote: 
> Do you really think the new bug model has had a positive impact? If so,
> what makes you think that?

erm... It was only an idea... maybe the analogy was not good.
I kind of like the idea that bugs get (sort of) moderated or maybe
triaged to cut down the SNR... but having said that, I can see a
downside too.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-06-20 Thread peterw

Phil Leigh;556334 Wrote: 
> 
> Maybe we should adopt the same approach as that now used for Bug
> Confirmation...

Do you really think the new bug model has had a positive impact? If so,
what makes you think that?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-06-20 Thread Phil Leigh

Nazgul;556362 Wrote: 
> See, there's the BS.  I've been reading this forum since shortly after
> it was put up, maybe longer than you.  Your notion of "new user" and
> "senior user" is an illusion.  And just because you have more posts
> than me does not mean you are allowed to discredit my opinion or
> attempt, through bullying, to censor the opinion of anyone else.  This
> is a public forum for a company that has general public users.  More
> and more of these users are going to join each day.  And you know what?
> They have opinions that are just as valid as yours even though you
> apparently have no life outside this forum.  In public forums the
> senior users are there to offer their additional experience, if any, to
> the new users.  They are not there to discourage discussion on topics
> they deem "pedestrian," through some unearned sense of ownership.

1) I have never used the term "senior user"
2) Where do I discredit YOUR opinion? - show me the "bullying" of which
you speak. I am merely expressing my opinion - the one I am entitled to,
right? - that perhaps some greater degree of moderation is called for.
3) If you have been reading this forum for that long (and I have no
concrete reason to doubt your statement) you will know that I spend a
lot of time on here trying to help people. 
4) I have never used the term "pedestrian"
5) I have always agreed that everyone has a right to their opinion
6) your use of the term "BS" and the assertion that I "have no life
outside this forum" are ad hominem/derogatory personal attacks and
violate forum rules (such as they are).
7) Don't presume it upon yourself to tell me what to think or do or
what "senior users" are here to do or not do

I think you have revealed your true colours. Welcome to the "ignore
list".


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-06-20 Thread Nazgul

Phil Leigh;556334 Wrote: 
> On the other hand, I really don't appreciate being told what these
> forums allegedly are for by people who have only just joined them!

See, there's the BS.  I've been reading this forum since shortly after
it was put up, maybe longer than you.  Your notion of "new user" and
"senior user" is an illusion.  And just because you have more posts
than me does not mean you are allowed to discredit my opinion or
attempt, through bullying, to censor the opinion of anyone else.  This
is a public forum for a company that has general public users.  More
and more of these users are going to join each day.  And you know what?
They have opinions that are just as valid as yours even though you
apparently have no life outside this forum.  In public forums the
senior users are there to offer their additional experience, if any, to
the new users.  They are not there to discourage discussion on topics
they deem "pedestrian," through some unearned sense of ownership.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-06-20 Thread Phil Leigh

It's about time these Forums had a better moderation policy.
Self-moderation in its current form is blatantly no longer working.

Maybe we should adopt the same approach as that now used for Bug
Confirmation...

Or perhaps we should just have a separate sub-forum for ranting, and a
few more Mods. I have no problem with peoples right to free speech... 

On the other hand, I really don't appreciate being told what these
forums allegedly are for by people who have only just joined them! 

This is supposed to be a "community" - it says so at the top of the
page. 

The normal rules of "communities" apply - if you don't like the
"community", join another one or start your own...

com·mu·ni·ty (k-myn-t)
n. pl. com·mu·ni·ties 
1. 
a. A group of people living in the same locality and under the same
government.
b. The district or locality in which such a group lives.
2. 
a. A group of people having common interests: the scientific community;
the international business community.
b. A group viewed as forming a distinct segment of society: the gay
community; the community of color.
3. 
a. Similarity or identity: a community of interests.
b. Sharing, participation, and fellowship.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-06-20 Thread toby10

Nazgul;556324 Wrote: 
> . It doesn't matter if they took my money explicitly for the battery
> (which they did BTW), they made a promise about the functionality of the
> radio with the intent to sway my purchase. When I make that initial
> purchase based on that claim and then they don't deliver, they ripped
> me off.  Is that really hard to understand?

I'd be pissed as well.  Did they actually charge your credit card for
the battery?  That shouldn't happen, anywhere.   :(


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-06-20 Thread Nazgul

Personally if I'm deceived buy a company that made future promises about
a product they are hyping with the intent to convince me to buy it, then
I feel like I am ripped off.  Doesn't everyone?  Shouldn't the matter be
that simple?  It doesn't matter if they took my money explicitly for the
battery (which they did BTW), they made a promise about the
functionality of the radio with the intent to sway my purchase. When I
make that initial purchase based on that claim and then they don't
deliver, they ripped me off.  Is that really hard to understand?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-06-20 Thread Nazgul

pfarrell;556174 Wrote: 
> On 06/19/2010 05:09 PM, diannabill wrote:
> > What's with these self-appointed "Keepers of the Forum" who think
> they
> > can criticize everyone who makes some sort of complaint about this
> > radio?  Lighten up guys!  Let people complain.  It's good for your
> > stress level.  This may not be a Logitech Complaint Department, but
> it
> > definitely isn't a "Senior Member's" Personal Forum.  Geez!
> 
> What is with these self-appointed whiners who jump all over people just
> 
> trying to be helpful?
> 
> Go out in the yard and yell if you want to whine.
> 
> You can bitch and moan all you want here, but since no one from
> Logitech 
> reads these forums, you are just wasting your breath and all the 
> electrons needed to show these useless posts to the world.
> 
> The radio has problems. I know it, @iPhone knows it, anyone who looks
> at 
> these forums knows it. And even some parts of Logitech know it.
> 
> You happy now?
> 
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Yea, real helpful.
You're another one.  Do you think these posts are all here for your
approval and personal edification?  Hardly.  Again if you don't want to
hear this stuff then feel free to stop reading.

This is a public USER forum.  Stop trying to make rules you have no
right to make.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-06-20 Thread Nazgul

iPhone;556142 Wrote: 
> Sorry to hear that, BUT this is a Users Forum. Not Customer Service,
> Sales, Tech Support, or the Complaint Department, so try contacting
> Sales.

Actually this is a USER forum which makes it all of these things.  If
you don't want to hear it then don't read it.  I'm tired of the couple
of you who keep trying to tell people what these USER forums are.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-06-19 Thread diannabill

Thrilled to friggin death!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-06-19 Thread Pat Farrell
On 06/19/2010 05:09 PM, diannabill wrote:
> What's with these self-appointed "Keepers of the Forum" who think they
> can criticize everyone who makes some sort of complaint about this
> radio?  Lighten up guys!  Let people complain.  It's good for your
> stress level.  This may not be a Logitech Complaint Department, but it
> definitely isn't a "Senior Member's" Personal Forum.  Geez!

What is with these self-appointed whiners who jump all over people just 
trying to be helpful?

Go out in the yard and yell if you want to whine.

You can bitch and moan all you want here, but since no one from Logitech 
reads these forums, you are just wasting your breath and all the 
electrons needed to show these useless posts to the world.

The radio has problems. I know it, @iPhone knows it, anyone who looks at 
these forums knows it. And even some parts of Logitech know it.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-06-19 Thread diannabill

iPhone;556142 Wrote: 
> Sorry to hear that, BUT this is a Users Forum. Not Customer Service,
> Sales, Tech Support, or the Complaint Department, so try contacting
> Sales. 

What's with these self-appointed "Keepers of the Forum" who think they
can criticize everyone who makes some sort of complaint about this
radio?  Lighten up guys!  Let people complain.  It's good for your
stress level.  This may not be a Logitech Complaint Department, but it
definitely isn't a "Senior Member's" Personal Forum.  Geez!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-06-19 Thread iPhone

Fluffdaddy;556139 Wrote: 
> Placed an order for 2 radio accessory packs on 04/23/10still
> nothing.
> 
> Love the Radio's  but customer service.not to much.
> 
> Fluff

Hello and Welcome to the Forum.

Sorry to hear that, BUT this is a Users Forum. Not Customer Service,
Sales, Tech Support, or the Complaint Department, so try contacting
Sales. On another note, the battery packs are out of stock and no
amount of Customer Service can fix that. But that is also no excuse not
to keep those with back ordered Accessory Packs informed.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-06-19 Thread Fluffdaddy

Placed an order for 2 radio accessory packs on 04/23/10still
nothing.

Love the Radio's  but customer service.not to much.

Fluff


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-06-18 Thread wayneBR

Just when summer will be over.  Logitech should offer free shipping and
exress shipping to make up the loss of time.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-06-18 Thread diannabill

Now Logitech's latest for U.S. shipment is mid-July to early August.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-06-18 Thread toby10

I think EU has stock, US does not.   :(


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-06-18 Thread wayneBR

Whirlygig;555865 Wrote: 
> Hmm.  I placed an order for 2 from the US website on 5/16.  Still
> nothing.

Same here..placed order May 12.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-06-18 Thread Whirlygig

Hmm.  I placed an order for 2 from the US website on 5/16.  Still
nothing.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-06-18 Thread brookheather

Thanks - ordered one today even though it shows out of stock so let's
see how long it takes for delivery.  I used this coupon for 15% off
which almost gives free delivery:

HVTC15NU

- Simon.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-06-18 Thread pallfreeman

I'd just like to say thanks. After reading this thread I decided to
ignore the fact that the Logitech web site says "out of stock" and
ordered my battery pack anyway. It turned up a week later (nl -> uk).

It's reet grand being able to take the radio out into the garden and
listen to my own music rather than distant, tinny mainstream from other
people's houses. I wonder if any of my neighbours like Merzbow?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-06-03 Thread wayneBR

notwired;552594 Wrote: 
> NEXT week is Logitech code for NEVER.
> 
> Don't get your hopes up and don't expect anything from them.

I will keep fingers crossed


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-06-03 Thread notwired

diannabill;552480 Wrote: 
> Don't get too excited.  It does say "In Stock" on the US website after
> you click on "PreOrder".  Boy isn't that confusing.  
> 
> So I called and was told they were actually out of stock but they were
> expecting another shipment by the end of NEXT week.  Keep your fingers
> crossed.

NEXT week is Logitech code for NEVER.

Don't get your hopes up and don't expect anything from them.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-06-03 Thread Jakearama

wayneBR;552391 Wrote: 
> The site now shows "in stock".

And the Logitech en-ca (Canadian) website still shows availability of
March 2010...so I wouldn't put too much stock in their website!!!

Jakearama.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-06-02 Thread diannabill

Don't get too excited.  It does say "In Stock" on the US website after
you click on "PreOrder".  Boy isn't that confusing.  

So I called and was told they were actually out of stock but they were
expecting another shipment by the end of NEXT week.  Keep your fingers
crossed.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-06-02 Thread wayneBR

FredFredrickson;552407 Wrote: 
> Not on the US site..

Did you click on the "preorder now" button?  The next page shows "in
stock".
wayne


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-06-02 Thread FredFredrickson

wayneBR;552391 Wrote: 
> The site now shows "in stock".  Hopefully, backorders will be filled
> first.
> wayne

Not on the US site..


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-06-02 Thread wayneBR

youngml2009;552220 Wrote: 
> Looks like battery is sold out again on the U.S. Logitech website.

The site now shows "in stock".  Hopefully, backorders will be filled
first.
wayne


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-06-01 Thread youngml2009

Looks like battery is sold out again on the U.S. Logitech website.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-06-01 Thread zimmer62

notwired;548990 Wrote: 
> Please, I beg to differ on this. I've never once purchased an Apple
> product that didn't do what it said it was going to do. These Logitech
> radio issues are mind boggling. Let me sell you a nice shiny radio...
> you can't listen to anything on it but it makes the PERFECT paper
> weight. If you work in a paperless office then you can use it as a door
> stop. :)

Well, for stuff that may or may not be in writing when you buy the
product, apple fails to support their existing customer base without
selling them new hardware.

Iphone has a camera, but can't take videos?  Supports bluetooth, but no
stereo music profile? (now fixed) ipad claims to have the "whole
internet", but no flash, no java means you can't do a lot of things
that I should be able to do on the "whole" internet.  ipad supports
memory cards with an optional adapter, but not for storing music?  What
is this "game" they are playing?  These are all things the common sense
consumer would assume it could and should do since their competitors
do.  So it might all be in writing somewhere about what it does and
doesn't do, or supports or doesn't but dropping future support of old
hardware IS something apple does... Which is what I was comparing
Logitech.  Both companies fail to support hardware for more than a few
years.  New versions of software do not support things that seemingly
should on old hardware or you're forced to buy new hardware simply
because the support is so bad, or the product no longer performs as it
did when purchased.  

The fact that I can't play some of my itunes DRM'd songs on squeeze
without burning a CD and ripping them back to MP3, or use all of the
features on my not that old logitech keyboard is just flat out bad
support from companies who have collected a good amount of my money
over the years.  Yet like Stockholm syndrome we continue to support
their bad behavior and even excuse it.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-05-31 Thread sveander

Orded on Logitech.com

Product SKU Produktnavn Antall bestilt  Beløp
930-000107  Squeezebox™ Radio Accessory Pack1   NOK 359,20

Pris:   NOK 359,20   
Moms:   NOK 0,00 
Frakt:  NOK 0,00 
Rabatt: 10%  
Pris totalt:NOK 323,28

323 NOK included fraight (=0) 

Very happy , and now i can use mye radio in the garden during summer


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-05-30 Thread Jakearama

Got my battery pack last Thursday; works well and have been using it
outside with no wires!  As I've mentioned, I live in Canada (where
Logitech refuses to sell the battery pack) so I ordered through a
colleague in the U.S. and paid to have it shipped up here; thanks for
the hassle Logitech.  Still don't understand why I can't purchase this
in Canada and have to go through the U.S..  Logitech should stop
selling the Radios in Canada too if they won't support the Canadian
market with accessories.

I also completed a survey they e-mailed me and I complained about all
of this, including the availability date of March 2010 on their
Canadian website (I even provided the URL).  The March 2010 date is
still there...thanks for listening Logitech.  I'll delete your customer
satifaction survey the next time and prevent myself from wasting
valuable seconds completing it for nothing!!!

Jakearama (enjoying the Radio wirelessly finally). :)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-05-23 Thread Hugo_NAS

I'm in the UK - ordered 3 weeks ago, said out of stock,  came last week.
Apart from the price all is fine.


Fitting the battery was easy.  Getting in to the packaging
howeverwow it's tough!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-05-23 Thread yannyb

havoc1;549648 Wrote: 
> You got one off the UK site? It's been saying out of stock for weeks. I
> have just ordered and will wait without bated breath for it to turn up
> some day.
> 
> That website really sucks doesn't it? I love the way it doesn't tell
> you it's out of stock til you try to order it. And WTF is that
> horizontal scrolling about. They need to have a look at Amazon IMO.

Yeah, it was the UK site last Monday.  I must've got lucky with my
timing.  Having said that, when I looked a few weeks ago it listed the
accessory pack as in stock - I hadn't decided on buying it at that
point.

So far so good with the battery, lasts a good 7-8 hrs without a
recharge.

I'm too really happy with the radio, not encountered any of the big
problems other have and I've been using it for streaming radio and my
music library (on 7.5.1).

I haven't used the alarms functionality which does sound pretty
flaky

Hope you manage to get one soon

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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-05-22 Thread havoc1

I must be lucky with my Radio - I've never had any of these issues.
Sorry to hear of your problems. What are you going to get instead? The
big downside of Sonos for me is the lack of a display. Not an issue if
you always have a controller to hand, but having multiple IR remotes
kicking around and the ability to control from the device directly
makes the Squeezebox platform much more flexible IMO.

I still think the Boom is a much better product than Radio. Shame there
isn't a battery pack for it.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-05-21 Thread agenth

I'm also one of the people that bought the radio, thinking that I'd be
using it (with the battery pack) this spring/summer on my patio.
Another weekend goes by and this thing sits tethered to my kitchen.
(And no I'm not going to grab an extension cord. I am paranoid about
the electrocution hazard, it's near a hot tub.)

Over the last few years I've just started to become more and more
unhappy with the squeezebox products and services. For years I kept
telling my wife that the radio/squeezebox/whatever would work once all
the bugs were worked through. Here we are, years later and the products
still have issues. Issues I could live with, if I were enjoying the
radio outside.

Yes, I believe it's my fault for believing the hype, but I've already
made the decision not to buy the squeezebox touch (which I was really
looking forward to), and instead I'm looking at other companies for my
A/V purchases.

The honeymoon is over.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-05-21 Thread havoc1

You got one off the UK site? It's been saying out of stock for weeks. I
have just ordered and will wait without bated breath for it to turn up
some day.

That website really sucks doesn't it? I love the way it doesn't tell
you it's out of stock til you try to order it. And WTF is that
horizontal scrolling about. They need to have a look at Amazon IMO.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-05-20 Thread yannyb

For info,

I took the plunge and ordered the accessory pack on monday morning
(from logitech UK site). Battery arrived wednesday and works perfectly
so far.

Been off work this week and dragging an extension cable around the
garden was a pain.  Hopefully the weather holds for the rest of the
week and lets me get good use out of the battery!

I do think that 45 quid for a battery and tiny remote is a ridiculous
amount to charge, but there are obviously enough fools like me willing
to pay it just now!

It really should be part of the radio package in the first place, it
isn't that cheap a bit of kit after all...

Anyway, I'm off to the garden sans wiring for breakfast ;-)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-05-19 Thread cornflakeguy

Im not really interested in the battery pack at all, however I do feel
like pointing out that if there EVER was a time when they should have
known way ahead of time that they needed batteries in stock, its the
spring and summer following the release of the Radio, when weather is
nice and people will want to take these things outside.

I'm just now getting my Radio's under control, but they still reboot
while listening to Sirius, and I'm still waiting for the Touch to show
up on a physical shelf near me.

The Boom, however is rocking along like a freaking hurricane.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-05-19 Thread slally

FWIW, my radios and boombox work great.  Batteries shipped yesterday for
me.  Yay!  Also, just installed Squeeze Commander on my droid and I'm
perfectly stoked!

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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-05-19 Thread Jakearama

MickeyG;548607 Wrote: 
> 
> 
> The battery is currently only available in the United States, EU
> countries, and Switzerland. I can't promise making it available in
> Canada, but I'll do what I can to help our disappointed customers
> there.
> 
> Mickey

Here's a suggestion: how about letting Canadians order from Logitech
US, using our Canadian credit cards?

I live in Canada and I'm happy to say that I just received notification
that my accessory pack is on its way to me now via a colleague in the
US. It is foolish to make me take the extra step of ordering via
someone in the US simply to have the accessory pack shipped to Canada
because Logitech doesn't want to set up for Canadian credit
cards/ship-to addresses.

My company in Canada is set up for Canadian and US customers, no big
deal (just like Canadians can order from Amazon.com even though there
is an Amazon.ca). Not sure what the Logitech argument is against this
other than they "don't have sufficient units to meet US demand let
alone meet Canadian demand". The question to consider is: how many
Canadians just like me are ordering via the US and bypassing Logitech's
ridiculous policy??! So much for inventory segregation. Well done
Logitech, way to annoy a nation of consumers!! I've told everyone I
know who was considering a purchase.

Just my two cents.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-05-19 Thread notwired

zimmer62;548935 Wrote: 
> Logitech makes great products that work well for a few days ;) Then they
> make you buy new products... sounds a lot like Apple.

Please, I beg to differ on this. I've never once purchased an Apple
product that didn't do what it said it was going to do. These Logitech
radio issues are mind boggling. Let me sell you a nice shiny radio...
you can't listen to anything on it but it makes the PERFECT paper
weight. If you work in a paperless office then you can use it as a door
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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-05-19 Thread zimmer62

notwired;548879 Wrote: 
> If Logitech doesn't want our money for a battery pack then I say they
> can't have our money for ANY of their devices.

This sure is easier said than done.  Logitech has NEVER been any good
as post sale support issues.  I get mad and yet I still continue to buy
their products... partially because no one else makes the same products
we have a demand for.

Logitech products that I've been burned by:
iFeel mouse (no longer supported)  
Wireless keyboard no longer supported by their software (aka no windows
7 support, and no plans to do it)
Countless webcams where drivers are no longer available.
handheld scanners which stopped working with software updates and new
versions (obviously I don't expect them to still be supported, but I'd
like maybe a few years of lifespan out of an expensive product like
that)
The harmony 880 remote suffered a charging base issue rending my remote
useless for the most part.  
The harmony software setup doesn't allow all options.  You call them to
get your visio TV to switch inputs correctly and they fix it on their
end and you are all set.  If you need to do that for another TV (since
my sister has the same TV) I can't do it myself, I have to call them
again and complain (problem is that if the remote is older than 1 year,
they charge you for this service) 

I can go on, but it just gets me worked up.  Logitech makes great
products that work well for a few days ;) Then they make you buy new
products... sounds a lot like Apple.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-05-19 Thread notwired

snarlydwarf;548739 Wrote: 
> You do realize that Mickey is not the CEO of Logitech, right, and he
> can't force other divisions within Logitech to stock things.
> 
> The best he can do is talk to Logitech Canada Sales and Marketing and
> say, "Guys, you realize we're selling these batteries faster than we
> expected -- I bet you could sell them too and make money on your bottom
> line if you stocked them...  Summer is coming and people will want to
> drag their radios outside!"
> 
> If you can get ahold of Logitech Canada Sales and are sufficiently
> polite (swearing at them will just get you written off...), you could
> try the same thing.  "Hey, I have this radio and it really needs a
> battery: you guys should stock them because I'm sure you could sell
> them.. ask Logitech US how their sales are on this product!"

Actually, I have contacted them.

I was told it wasn't their decision not to stock / sell the batteries -
it came from Corporate! We Canadians are just little people who can be
ignored by Logitech head office.

Folks, spread the word - you need to speak with your pocket books. Make
sure you let everyone know how much Logitech values your business.
They'll sell you a device and not make available accessories they
advertised AND they'll put out bad firmware which breaks your device
without so much as an acknowledgment. 

If Logitech doesn't want our money for a battery pack then I say they
can't have our money for ANY of their devices.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-05-18 Thread newy

Yes, maybe calling horsesh*t is going too far, but not by much.  The SB
Radio should never have been released.  Very frustrated w/ it and
hearing nonsense like that just makes it worse.

How about this:

I live in Canada.  Tell me when I'll be able to get the battery for my
Squeezebox Radio.

Pretty simple.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-05-18 Thread snarlydwarf

newy;548737 Wrote: 
> 
> "I can't promise making it available in Canada, but I'll do what I can
> to help our disappointed customers there."  Ummm, for a start, how
> about making the battery available here?  That would "help". 
> Ridiculous.

You do realize that Mickey is not the CEO of Logitech, right, and he
can't force other divisions within Logitech to stock things.

The best he can do is talk to Logitech Canada Sales and Marketing and
say, "Guys, you realize we're selling these batteries faster than we
expected -- I bet you could sell them too and make money on your bottom
line if you stocked them...  Summer is coming and people will want to
drag their radios outside!"

If you can get ahold of Logitech Canada Sales and are sufficiently
polite (swearing at them will just get you written off...), you could
try the same thing.  "Hey, I have this radio and it really needs a
battery: you guys should stock them because I'm sure you could sell
them.. ask Logitech US how their sales are on this product!"


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-05-18 Thread newy

I   C A L L   H O R S E S H * T 

Greetings from Canada.  So glad I bought my Radio in January so I could
get my battery in February as the Logitech website stated.  My it sounds
just lovely on the patio.  Funny, it sounds the same as all my other
patio bricks.

"As you might guess, we'll have to monitor the situation closely to
ensure that "plenty" is enough."  Well, I don't even know what to say
to that other than absurd.

"I can't promise making it available in Canada, but I'll do what I can
to help our disappointed customers there."  Ummm, for a start, how
about making the battery available here?  That would "help". 
Ridiculous.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-05-18 Thread devinjc

My battery pack arrived yesterday and I'm now happy.  Although it will
probably be a long time before I give logitech anymore of my money, as
$60 for a battery, even one in such a high demand just seems greedy.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-05-18 Thread jjd_87

This really is a joke. I honestly would have never bought the radio if I
would have known I was going to have to wait this long on the battery
pack. Combine that with buggy software updates, and you have a product
I wouldn't recommend to anyone.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-05-18 Thread MickeyG

Here's an update on the battery situation for Squeezebox Radios

It's been a bit of work to get them available. But as of today, almost
all batteries on backorder are being shipped this week from our
warehouses in the US and Europe. I apologize for the delay, especially
to those who ordered them early this year.

Unfortunately, we are short 15-20 units at both locations; we are now
down to zero batteries at both locations again. The quantity of battery
orders have far exceeded our expectations, and we're still in catch-up
mode.

Additional batteries will begin arriving in multiple shipments to our
European warehouse starting at the end of this month, and starting at
the US warehouse in July. The plan is to stock the warehouses with
plenty of batteries by the end of the summer. As you might guess, we'll
have to monitor the situation closely to ensure that "plenty" is enough.

The battery is currently only available in the United States, EU
countries, and Switzerland. I can't promise making it available in
Canada, but I'll do what I can to help our disappointed customers
there.

Mickey


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-05-18 Thread albright

cparker;548545 Wrote: 
> currently winging its way across Europe

I envy you. Here in Canada, no battery pack available and
the logitech webpage still says "available in March 2010".
What the  is wrong with logitech?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-05-18 Thread cparker

joshuar;542527 Wrote: 
> Dudes, got Thursday a Mail from Emea Support that the Accessory Pack
> shall be in Stock middle of May.
> Theses Packs will be distributed by the central Storage in Holland.
> 

Spot on Josh.  I received a dispatch email yesterday and its currently
winging its way across Europe from Netherlands due to arrive today just
in time for the forthcoming 2 week English summer ;)

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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-05-02 Thread joshuar

Dudes, got Thursday a Mail from Emea Support that the Accessory Pack
shall be in Stock middle of May.
Theses Packs will be distributed by the central Storage in Holland.

BTW whenever i´ll get this Pack in my Hands, I´ll open the Shrinkhose
and have a glance into this Pack... I Want to know how this is build up
and order my own Batteries and Plugs...

Josh


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-05-01 Thread cparker

I just received a "Logitech wants your honest opinion" emails.  I filled
in the survey and complained about the lack of the battery and offical
news on its availability.  Probably wont make any difference but I've
been waiting weeks now :(

For interest at the end of the survey it gave these details; Glenn
Rogers Director, Customer Experience.  Maybe someone can guess his
email address and complain direct :)

I so want to unleash my radio from wires, grrr...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-04-29 Thread albright

"update the website"

LOL - I'm not the web maintainer for logitech canada;

Of course, I've tried to contact logitech canada about
this. The official response was that they have no 
information about the battery pack at all.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-04-28 Thread Michael Herger
> Anyone from logitech listening?

I do. But as I said before you should bug your country's Logitech 
representative. They decide whether they want to offer you the accessory pack 
or not. You must let them know there's demand for it, and they'll probably 
change their minds or update the website.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-04-28 Thread m1abrams

albright;541467 Wrote: 
> May 14th eh?
> 
> The Canadian webpage still says available in March 
> 
> Anyone from logitech listening?
> 
> No ... didn't think so.

Of course they are not, have you not seen the many posts saying this is
NOT an official Logitech Support channel.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-04-28 Thread iPhone

albright;541467 Wrote: 
> May 14th eh?
> 
> The Canadian webpage still says available in March 
> 
> Anyone from logitech listening?
> 
> No ... didn't think so.

March is probably correct, 2011 ;=} Just kidding, as I couldn't resist.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-04-28 Thread albright

May 14th eh?

The Canadian webpage still says available in March 

Anyone from logitech listening?

No ... didn't think so.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-04-28 Thread dclingaman

The logitech website has been updated and lists the date of availability
for the battery/accessory pack as May 14th.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-04-28 Thread FredFredrickson

Hey guys- just wanted to let you know that I've put together an
unofficial email list to update everybody when things are back in
stock. Again- not endorsed by logitech, but maybe useful none the
less.
'You can sign up here' (http://sb.cnhpa.com/?page_id=27).


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-04-27 Thread youngml2009

For what it's worth, a Logitech CSR told me today that the battery
accessory pack would be available in the U.S. the first or second week
of May.  She said that she received that information from her
supervisor.  Let's hope.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-04-26 Thread mbonsack

Mickey,

Similar to your recent comments on availability of Receivers and
Touches, can you comment on this pack?  On order for two weeks ("order
in process"), with no clear statement of availability anywhere in the
distribution channel.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-04-23 Thread Phil Leigh

ldmmlongs;539154 Wrote: 
> 
> Now you stated "Was your credit card charged and you never received
> what you paid for? I highly doubt it." - Obviously you are clueless
> because they do place a Hold on whatever card you supply. AND if you
> use a Debit card, many times the issuing company will process the HOLD
> as a transaction. So Mr. Bank of America stick to what you know, not
> speculation ("I Highly doubt it.").
> 
Even in America the "hold" or "pre-auth" or "earmarking" as we call it
over here has a fixed duration for both debit and credit cards. In no
case can a "hold" extend beyond 30 days and for a debit card is usually
for 24 hours e.g. when preauthing a card at a gas station (sic).

However, if you pre-order online a non-stock item or order an
out-of-stock item item there is no "earmarking" or pre-auth. The card
issuer cannot be asked for an indefinite hold. The authorisation will
take place immediately prior to despatch. Global Distance Selling
Legislation enforces this.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-04-23 Thread scoob101

I ordered on the 9th April and got Shipment confirmation on the 22nd
April. UPS tracking indicates the package originated in the Netherlands
which suggests they have a central distribution centre for Europe in
NL.

Looking forward for true portability!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-04-23 Thread atacama

Hello,

I am in France, battery ordered on logitech website 3 weeks ago
I don't know when I will receive my battery pack and more surprising no
date available from Logitech customer service
I can eventually accept a delay but I would like to know it.

"Mr and Mrs" Logitech, please advise !

Christophe


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-04-22 Thread mpower9

FYI I ordered by accessory pack on Feb. 25 and it was shipped on April 7
from Tennessee, and arrived in Vermont on April 12.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-04-22 Thread ldmmlongs

iPhone;537697 Wrote: 
> Just exactly how were you 'scammed'? Was your credit card charged and
> you never received what you paid for? I highly doubt it. The battery
> pack is out of stock. If you pre-ordered one or were allowed to order
> even while out of stock, when the batteries are available, it will be
> shipped. Which again means you have not been Scammed! How about growing
> up and not using inflamatory, misleading, and out right false terms! YOU
> HAVE NOT BEEN SCAMMED

Of all I said you decide to focus on one sentence, which you
misrepresented btw. Since you were intent on taking what I said out of
context & ultra literal let me help you out. I said I was starting to
feel scammed. I then went on to explain that after ordering a product
with a set date of release that now no one at the company can
apparently even estimate when it will be in stock. A stated product on
a stated date becomes no ideal and out of date website info  seems
suspicious (almost like a scam).

Now you stated "Was your credit card charged and you never received
what you paid for? I highly doubt it." - Obviously you are clueless
because they do place a Hold on whatever card you supply. AND if you
use a Debit card, many times the issuing company will process the HOLD
as a transaction. So Mr. Bank of America stick to what you know, not
speculation ("I Highly doubt it.").

BUT the entire point of my post was the AWFUL customer service. A
"tech" company can't keep the website up to date  they can't tell
you even estimated dates  they can't inform their customers (who
have made numerous Logitech purchases) about what is going on ... NOT
professional.

How about this: instead of being the Logitech schill just stick to
playing with all those toys you  list, like a little kid. But of course
we are the ones that need to grow up.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-04-22 Thread Hildebrandt

Has anyone in here tried one of those DIY kits (battery packs) that pop
up, when i google for the acessory pack???


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-04-21 Thread chingfa

I ordered in 2010/4/21, the system showed "Order Cancelled by System"
immediately. It's really a frustrating shopping experience.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-04-21 Thread mbonsack

I ordered mine on 4/13; still says "order in process".  No clue as to
when it will ship.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-04-21 Thread satkinsn

I'm well and truly confused.

Is the battery pack available in the U.S., or not?

Amazon doesn't show it, but Logitech's site does, with a release date
of April 12.

tks,

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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-04-20 Thread Jakearama

mpower9;538278 Wrote: 
>  So, Jakearama, take this as an omen that it will finally make its way
> to Canada, probably after they fill all the U.S. backorders.

You are probably right. Alas, I ran out of patience and ordered today
via a colleague in the U.S..

I figured: "best to have pre-ordered and wait than not to have ordered
at all"  :)

Cheers,

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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-04-20 Thread mpower9

Perhaps it really is going to be available in Canada after all. My
accessory pack came bi-lingual, English and French. If it were only
going to be available in the U.S., the other language would have been
Spanish. If it were continental packaging, I think it would have had
more than two languages. 

So, Jakearama, take this as an omen that it will finally make its way
to Canada, probably after they fill all the U.S. backorders.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-04-20 Thread Jakearama

m1abrams;537967 Wrote: 
> So would you have been happier if they just said something like "Will be
> available in the future"?

Yes, of course and this would have been truthful and accurate
advertising and I would not have had any advertised date on which to
base an expectation of availability.

Anyway, I've enjoyed the discussion and hopefully I will receive
something soon via the U.S. ...but I'm not setting any expectations!
;)

Jakearama.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-04-20 Thread m1abrams

True about the date, they should have never mentioned a date because
some people tend to hold you liable for mentioning any type of date. 
They should just do what other companies do and not mention anything
other than you will get it when it arrives at your front door.

So would you have been happier if they just said something like "Will
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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-04-20 Thread Tony T

Jakearama;537964 Wrote: 
> 
> In the meantime, I will pre-order via a colleague in the U.S.; no point
> waiting on Canada to even have "pre-order" as an option..

Check for a coupon, Logitech offers up to 25% discounts from
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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-04-20 Thread Jakearama

And a "tech company" can't update their website why??

Creative editing with my quote, you left out my point, which is
"ability to utilize a portable battery pack that was advertised to be
available in March 2010".  The advertised and not updated availability
date is my entire concern here.

Whether you agree or not, advertising a product feature/accessory, with
a date and then not updating this date and leaving it on your website
(online advertising) is contrary to the The Canadian Code of
Advertising Standards; please see Provision 1.

Anyhoo, I've stated my opinion and the fact that I would simply like a
more accurate estimate of availability.

I've contacted Logitech customer service regarding availability and the
out-of-date website and am awaiting a response.

In the meantime, I will pre-order via a colleague in the U.S.; no point
waiting on Canada to even have "pre-order" as an option.  For now, I
will enjoy my Radio that I can't listen to outside without running
extension cords and which doesn't have alarm battery backup in the
event of power failure. Great.

Thanks for the feedback and purchasing advice.

Have a great day!

Jakearama.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-04-20 Thread Tony T

kmr;536225 Wrote: 
> Well, I ordered mine on Feb 25, got the shipping notice on it last week,
> and finally got it (standard slow UPS ground) on Tuesday.

Ordered mine Mar 3rd.  Still waiting: Order Status: Order in Process


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-04-20 Thread m1abrams

Jakearama;537820 Wrote: 
> Please re-read my posts.
> 
> What I'm saying, and what I've written, is that my credit card was
> charged for a Squeezebox Radio, which I received, but which was
> advertised to have the ability to utilize a portable battery pack 
> 

So does your Radio differ from everyone else's radio?  Does it not have
the compartment and/or connections to utilize a battery pack?  It does I
bet and that meets the requirements.  They never said it had a battery
pack, they said it could use one.  Very different items and I do not
think they were said to confuse the user.

Personally I never buy a product based on what its potential may be but
what it currently is.  If I felt he Radio would not be a good device
without the battery then I would have waited.  You choose not to wait
and now feel that a company cheated you for giving you a product you
wanted.  Cause you did want it otherwise you would not have bought it.

I am not defending Logitech, I am defending all tech companies that try
to improve their products over the lifespan of the device without
requiring the user to re-buy it.  If people like you make such a fuss
over a company trying to do that why would they continue that practice?
Deadlines slip, demand is underestimated, basically #...@$@! happens.  No
reason to make such a stink over it it is after all just a radio that
does do everything it advertises it would when you bought it.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-04-19 Thread Michael Herger
> Why are you so invested in defending the indefensible practices
> of Logitech Canada???

Please contact Logitech Canada directly. If it's not available in your country, 
then because they decided it wasn't worth it. No discussion here will have them 
change their opinion, as they won't read it. Call them. Write them. Only this 
will wake them up.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-04-19 Thread Jakearama

Pat,

I don't expect anything. Just sharing my opinion/experience with other
customers and was prompted to do so when I saw at least one other
Canadian asking about the status of the battery pack in Canada.

Thanks for the feedback and I really do wish I could purchase the
battery pack soon.

Cheers and have a pleasant evening.

Jakearama.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-04-19 Thread Pat Farrell
Jakearama wrote:
> Please re-read my posts.

Look, no one is going to go back and read all your posts in the thread.
Sorry, its not going to happen.

> What I'm saying, and what I've written, is that my credit card was
> charged for a Squeezebox Radio, which I received, but which was
> advertised to have the ability to utilize a portable battery pack that
> was advertised to be available in March 2010. I have not yet paid for
> the battery pack (and never said I did) because it is still not
> available for order in Canada.

So your complaint is that you got a Radio which works for you except for
the battery pack? And the battery pack is critical for you?

Then call Logitech support and tell them to let you send it back, get an
RMA, etc. Sure, your 30 day time is up, but they are reasonable, and you
can't evaluate the complete package because you don't have the battery pack.

But no one ripped you off.

> Please read my posts carefully. What I'm saying is I paid for the SBR
> and, when I paid for it, Logitech was advertising on their Canadian
> website that the radio featured a battery pack for portability that
> would be available in March 2010. I'm also saying that this battery
> pack never was available in March 2010 and that the Canadian website
> still says it is available in March 2010.

And its still not shipped to customers. It was also not shipped to beta
testers who were promissed to get the battery  packs in January.

There is nothing you can do to make the battery packs appear.

All you can do is decide you like the Radio, or ship it back. Or sell it
on eBay.

>  They also couldn't tell me why
> the Logitech.com U.S. website said both "pre-order" and "in stock" on
> the same page.

Either because who ever is in charge of the website doesn't know, or
some low level web developer forgot to fix it.

Advertising something on a website does not mean that some company
ripped you off.

If they charged your credit card and told you it was shipped, and it
never gets into the tracking system, or never shows up, then you have a
problem.

For now, you don't have any problem except that your wishes were not met.

By the way, this is a community co-operative-help forum. It is not
Logitech professional tech support or sales support or anything like
that. The best you can hope for here is other users willing to help you
out. You don't seem to want that. I'm not sure what you expect.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-04-19 Thread Jakearama

Please re-read my posts.

What I'm saying, and what I've written, is that my credit card was
charged for a Squeezebox Radio, which I received, but which was
advertised to have the ability to utilize a portable battery pack that
was advertised to be available in March 2010. I have not yet paid for
the battery pack (and never said I did) because it is still not
available for order in Canada.

Please read my posts carefully. What I'm saying is I paid for the SBR
and, when I paid for it, Logitech was advertising on their Canadian
website that the radio featured a battery pack for portability that
would be available in March 2010. I'm also saying that this battery
pack never was available in March 2010 and that the Canadian website
still says it is available in March 2010.

There is nothing "heated" about anything I'm saying. I guess it is too
much to ask for the Logitech Canadian website to be updated with the
actual or projected (into the future, not the past) availability date
for a product that was an advertised feature of a product being sold.

In any case, I've said the same thing several times. I won't bother
posting the same thing again.

Sorry if some readers are upset because they are misinterpreting what
I'm saying. I thought I was being quite clear.

BTW, last week I tried to pre-order an accessory pack from Logitech.com
U.S. customer service but they informed me they do not accept credit
cards with Canadian billing addresses.  They also couldn't tell me why
the Logitech.com U.S. website said both "pre-order" and "in stock" on
the same page. Again, just recounting facts here.

Jakearama.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-04-19 Thread snarlydwarf

pfarrell;537814 Wrote: 
> 
> 
> Yeah, but neither Visa nor MasterCard care of someone does that to
> you.
> 

Drat, should have used American Express.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-04-19 Thread snarlydwarf

pfarrell;537814 Wrote: 
> 
> 
> Yeah, but neither Visa nor MasterCard care of someone does that to
> you.
> 

Drat, should have used American Express.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-04-19 Thread Pat Farrell
snarlydwarf wrote:
> pfarrell;537807 Wrote: 
>> And unless something happened that you have not
>> stated, no one "took your money".
> 
> They turned me into a newt!

Yeah, but neither Visa nor MasterCard care of someone does that to you.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-04-19 Thread snarlydwarf

pfarrell;537807 Wrote: 
> And unless something happened that you have not
> stated, no one "took your money".
> 

They turned me into a newt!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-04-19 Thread Pat Farrell
Jakearama wrote:
> iPhone;537692 Wrote: 
>> Just exactly how were you "Ripped" off? Has your credit card been
>> charged and you received no product? I highly doubt this to be the
>> case.
> 
> In fact, Logitech did "take my money", in December 2009, for the
> Squeezebox Radio that I purchased with the understanding that, as their
> Canadian website indicated, the battery pack providing "true"
> portability would be available in March 2010. 

Again, as iPhone asked, was your credit card charged?
Or did you pay with cash?

It is against the rules for a merchant to charge a Visa or MasterCard
card until the product has been shipped. If they charged you, then you
have a complaint.

If your credit card account has not been charged, then they do not have
your money.

It is acceptable for a merchant to put a "AUTH" on your account for the
amount before it is shipped, but this just reduces your available credit
limit, it does not mean that you have to pay.

I hesitate to get into this, because you, Jakearama, seem to be making
some heated claims, and I do not claim that what Logitech did was
wonderful, or even wise. But I do know the ins and outs of Internet
credit card processing. And unless something happened that you have not
stated, no one "took your money".

That hasn't happened.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-04-19 Thread Jakearama

m1abrams;537804 Wrote: 
> I am sure they are working to get a battery available to you, however
> yelling and calling them names will not make them work any faster.

Clearly, your advice regarding not purchasing based on advertised
future implementation of product abilities is correct and timely!

I would like to agree with you that Logitech is working to make a
battery available to Canadian customers but, sadly, their official
Canadian website does not convey this intent.

Also, I'm neither yelling nor calling anyone names.

Jakearama.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-04-19 Thread m1abrams

Never ever buy a product from anyone based on future promise of a
feature that is not present when you buy it.  They are not held
responsible for anything at the time they sold the product to you other
than what the product says it will do when you bought it.

I am sure they are working to get a battery available to you, however
yelling and calling them names will not make them work any faster.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-04-19 Thread Jakearama

iPhone;537692 Wrote: 
> Just exactly how were you "Ripped" off? Has your credit card been
> charged and you received no product? I highly doubt this to be the
> case. Grow up and release that the batteries are out of stock which
> does not translate to being ripped off as you haven't been taken or
> incurred any injury!
> 
> And the SB Radio functioning on a battery for which it does NOT come
> with does in no way mean you were 'ripped off' or sold something
> misleading. It still functions if you buy the battery pack, the battery
> pack is just out of stock. Again, Grow up!


In fact, Logitech did "take my money", in December 2009, for the
Squeezebox Radio that I purchased with the understanding that, as their
Canadian website indicated, the battery pack providing "true"
portability would be available in March 2010. As the battery pack is
not available, the website availability date has not been updated and I
have received no communication from Logitech whether this promised
accessory will be made available or when, how have I not been "ripped
off". When I purchased the Squeezebox Radio, one of advertised product
attributes for which I was paying was the expectation of "true"
portability via the battery pack which was advertised to be available
in March 2010; it was not. Why has the Canadian website not been
updated? Why haven't registered Canadian users been notified regarding
availability? To suggest I got just what I paid for is absurd.

Stating the facts, as they are in Canada, is certainly not libel (note
the spelling). I feel "ripped off" and have indicated so and provided
the facts as they stand today. I work in the tech manufacturing segment
and, based on my professional experience, what Logitech is doing in
Canada is bogus (not genuine) e.g. the battery availability date of
March 2010 still appearing on the Canadian website.

"iPhone", it appears that you are a staunch supporter of Logitech. I
have supported them as well with my 6 Squeezebox and variants
purchases, so let's keep the drama out of this.

Logitech, please do something to inform/update your Canadian customers
who have purchased this product and future Canadian customers who may
be considering purchasing (or reading this forum!).

Jakearama.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-04-19 Thread m1abrams

albright;537739 Wrote: 
> About Canada - there has never been even one announcement on
> the Canadian website that the batteries are out of stock  - not one.
> 
> It still says the battery pack will be available in March 2010.
> 
> That *is* a kind of scam - false claims and zero concern for
> informing the customer about what is supposedly going on.
> 
> Why are you so invested in defending the indefensible practices
> of Logitech Canada???

Maybe just a guess because you made a rather outlandish comment, that
is far from the truth.

And no posting that something is in stock when it is not is not a scam
if they do not take your money.  I am sure Logitech will not take your
money until they actually ship the product.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack

2010-04-19 Thread albright

About Canada - there has never been even one announcement on
the Canadian website that the batteries are out of stock  - not one.

It still says the battery pack will be available in March 2010.

That *is* a kind of scam - false claims and zero concern for
informing the customer about what is supposedly going on.

Why are you so invested in defending the indefensible practices
of Logitech Canada???


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