Re: [rancid] Upgrade 3.1 ->3.7

2018-06-06 Thread heasley
Wed, Jun 06, 2018 at 07:15:15PM +, Michael T. Voity:
> Hello,
> 
> After reading the UPGRADE,   this seem pretty straight forward and I should 
> not have any issues.
> 
> I also have ViewVc 1.1.23.   Anyone see any issues?

correct; if you use the same config args just install over top. 

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[rancid] Upgrade 3.1 ->3.7

2018-06-06 Thread Michael T. Voity
Hello,

After reading the UPGRADE,   this seem pretty straight forward and I should not 
have any issues.

I also have ViewVc 1.1.23.   Anyone see any issues?

Thanks in advance.

-Mike


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Michael T. Voity
Network Engineer
University of Vermont

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Re: [rancid] Rancid for Cumulus

2018-06-06 Thread heasley
Wed, Jun 06, 2018 at 07:52:46AM +0200, Tore Anderson:
> * Kasper Adel
> 
> > When yoy say its Linux, do you mean that rancid is mot needed?
> > 
> > I’d like to think that rancid can capture configs of multiple files, is
> > that not possible today? Is there any other tool that comes to mind?
> RANCID captures the output of an arbitrary number CLI commands, which
> can be very well be something like «grep -r . /etc» and/or «net show
> configuration» to get the active config on the box.

so, it works with any number of files/commands.

> Nick's point is that if you've automated your Cumulus environment so
> that the entire config on the box is exported from some other
> authoritative system, then you don't need RANCID for backing up your
> config. Instead, if your switch breaks, you can always just redeploy a
> replacement device using a fresh config pushed from the authoritative
> automation system.

while I wholly support managing a network this way, in fact suggest that
it is the only acceptable way, rancid (or some backup system) still plays
a role - for any device whose config can be changed locally (during test,
debug, ???).  it is useful to catch those events.  also configuration is
not the only thing that rancid collects.

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Re: [rancid] Rancid for Cumulus

2018-06-06 Thread Nick Hilliard

Kasper Adel wrote on 06/06/2018 02:29:
> When yoy say its Linux, do you mean that rancid is mot needed?

rancid is the wrong tool for the job.  Rancid assumes one config file 
per device, and that single config file will provide a canonical backup 
of the entire system.  On Cumulus, you might have lots of different 
files and they might differ from site to site.



Is there any other tool that comes to mind?


e.g. any backup system that works on linux (bacula, amanda.  All you 
really need is to back up /etc.


Nick

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