[RBW] Re: NorCal Riv ride: Sunday October 18th

2009-10-20 Thread Phil Bickford
On Oct 19, 12:30 pm, jim g yoj...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 18, 6:56 pm, Gino Zahnd ginoza...@gmail.com wrote: And I asked Phil who built his bike, but dammit I can't remember again. It was built by Ian Riedel - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message

[RBW] Re: NorCal Riv ride: Sunday October 18th

2009-10-20 Thread Phil Bickford
Oh, ya, thanks to Gino. And to all the rest of you as well. I had a good ride - how about after the New Year for a west Sonoma County ride? Phil B --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch

[RBW] Re: RBW sizing compared to Surly KM

2009-10-20 Thread Eric Daume
Don't forget that Surlys run big--they measure to the top of the top tube, not the top of the seat tube as most others do. I think a 20 KM would be right. 22 is huge. Soma and Voodoo also make canti 29ers. Gunnar will add canti studs for $75--I bought a used Rockhound that has them. Eric Dublin,

[RBW] Re: NorCal Riv ride: Sunday October 18th

2009-10-20 Thread Ray Shine
I'm in, and I'll bring a bike with a derailleur this time so I can hang out with the rest of you! (Unless others bring QBs). Ray Shine --- On Tue, 10/20/09, Phil Bickford phi...@sonic.net wrote: From: Phil Bickford phi...@sonic.net Subject: [RBW] Re: NorCal Riv ride: Sunday October 18th To:

[RBW] Re: RBW sizing compared to Surly KM

2009-10-20 Thread Mike
Dude, go with the 20. I guess you're not getting a Bombadil? On Oct 20, 3:47 am, Eric Daume ericda...@gmail.com wrote: Don't forget that Surlys run big--they measure to the top of the top tube, not the top of the seat tube as most others do. I think a 20 KM would be right. 22 is huge. Soma

[RBW] Re: RBW sizing compared to Surly KM

2009-10-20 Thread cyclotourist
So you're thinking 20 is better? That's why I asked the Bicycle Experts Inc. Does it make a difference that I'm planning on using Midge/Gary bars? I looked at Voodoo but their canti attachments are an ugly afterthough on the frame, plus it has too much slope on it's top tube. Looks more

[RBW] Re: RBW sizing compared to Surly KM

2009-10-20 Thread cyclotourist
The 29er Bombadil is just too big for me and I don't want to invest in another wheelset for the 56cm. I'll probably pick up a used one someday, but until then, I have a really nice Phil/Bontrager 29er wheelset waiting for a frame! On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 6:51 AM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:

[RBW] Re: RBW sizing compared to Surly KM

2009-10-20 Thread Chuck
On Oct 19, 11:29 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Bicycle experts, just for kicks, if I ride a 62cm framed Rivendell designed bike, what would be the proper sized Karate Monkey for me, an 18 or a 20? The KMs seem to be the only production 29er frames out there with canti

[RBW] Re: RBW sizing compared to Surly KM

2009-10-20 Thread cyclotourist
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Chuck chuckw...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 19, 11:29 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Bicycle experts, just for kicks, if I ride a 62cm framed Rivendell designed bike, what would be the proper sized Karate Monkey for me, an 18 or a 20?

[RBW] Re: RBW sizing compared to Surly KM

2009-10-20 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Actually what I was trying to say was that the frame size does NOT affect the handlebar height, provided you start with an uncut steerer and can tolerate a stack of headset spacers. This is a key difference between threadless and threaded, and one that is often misunderstood. On Oct 20, 9:35 am,

[RBW] Re: FS: New in box VO Porteur Rack

2009-10-20 Thread Austin Andrews
There are, or so it seems, two ways to install the rack. Either you mount it to both the brake hole in the fork crown, via the included hardware, and the front drop out eyelets OR you can, as I have, mount the rack at the eyelets and directly to the front fender. If you don't have fenders then

[RBW] Re: RBW sizing compared to Surly KM

2009-10-20 Thread james black
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 07:26, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: So you're thinking 20 is better?  That's why I asked the Bicycle Experts Inc.  Does it make a difference that I'm planning on using Midge/Gary bars? I would suggest the 20 for you. I used to have a 20 SKM with dirt

[RBW] Re: OT - Stolen Handsome Devil in Austin, Texas

2009-10-20 Thread Cycletex
Yep, Keith recovered his Devil. The thief did indeed crash in front of a policeman... two blocks from where he stole it. Thank goodness for inept thievery! There were probably more eyes out looking for this bike than any ever before as Keith runs Social Cycling ATX with a 1700 person database. It

[RBW] New 650B Wheelset, White Industry Hubs, Jack Brown Tires

2009-10-20 Thread Hondo
built by Rich at RBW and only 10 miles on em. Paid $950. Let go for $550. In Petaluma. thanks for looking and brand new to this site. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam!

2009-10-20 Thread Cycletex
Welcome to the 68cm Quickbeam club! On Oct 19, 9:33 pm, Devin Chalmers de...@doormouse.org wrote: List, I can't help but put the exclamation point after it, I really can't.   (Alternative—but no less ebullient—subject: Quickbeam alights! to   storm the gates of Isengard.) After three

[RBW] Re: New 650B Wheelset, White Industry Hubs, Jack Brown Tires

2009-10-20 Thread bfd
On Oct 20, 9:26 am, Hondo m...@rivertownl.com wrote: built by Rich at RBW and only 10 miles on em. Paid $950. Let go for $550. In Petaluma. thanks for looking and brand new to this site. You paid $950 for a handbuild wheelset?! Not knocking Rich at RBW, but what kind of parts did he use for

[RBW] Re: New 650B Wheelset, White Industry Hubs, Jack Brown Tires

2009-10-20 Thread Ken Yokanovich
Not hard to crack the $950 mark if you were to use a Phil Wood cassette rear and a Schmidt up front. Rivendell offers some built wheel pricing on the web. Jack Brown tires are 700c, not 650b. Some accurate details on the wheels would help improve any potential for sale. On Oct 20, 12:54 pm,

[RBW] Re: Random occurrences in the universe

2009-10-20 Thread doug peterson
Looks like a few bottles never made it into the house. Been working on the bikes? Re: TJ's distibution: each store gets to pick choose a bit, so if they get a hot seller they keep it slow ones may not get re- ordered. That's what happened to my Wasabi mustard. dougP On Oct 13, 5:52 pm,

[RBW] Re: New 650B Wheelset, White Industry Hubs, Jack Brown Tires

2009-10-20 Thread bfd
On Oct 20, 11:25 am, Ken Yokanovich reflector.collec...@gmail.com wrote: Not hard to crack the $950 mark if you were to use a Phil Wood cassette rear and a Schmidt up front.  Rivendell offers some built wheel pricing on the web.  Jack Brown tires are 700c, not 650b. Some accurate details on

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam!

2009-10-20 Thread Esteban
That's a big, nice bike. Fun to read, too. I always imagined that if I ever owned a dog, it would be called Eureka! with the exclamation point. I like the inverse levers on the albatross bars - don't know if I've seen that before. The bike looks ready to go! Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Oct

[RBW] Re: OT - Stolen Handsome Devil in Austin, Texas

2009-10-20 Thread RoadieRyan
Glad to hear the Handsome Devil was recovered! A big hurrah for stupid human tricks. Just a question can the cop charge him with Drunk Cycling? I mean if we have to obey the same rules as car drivers you would think that would apply. Since they can't charge him with being a stupid a$$hole

[RBW] RBW sizing compared to De Rosa Neo Primato

2009-10-20 Thread usuk2007
To keep the relative sizing posts going I thought I'd put this one out for consideration. I ride a 56cm Rambouillet and my stats are PBH=81cm and Height = 5'10. What size De Rosa Neo Primato should I get? I'm tending towards the 54cm c-c (56cm c-t) as the 74 deg seat angle will put the top of the

[RBW] Re: NorCal Riv ride: Sunday October 18th

2009-10-20 Thread rinjin
Add my thanks to Gino and Jim for organizing and keeping us on track. I had a ton of fun...great to meet folks and see all the bikes. Of course I remember the bikes more than names, but that's an ok way to organize stuff in your head, right? As in, That guy on the Trek is sexy! and That guy on

[RBW] NorCal Riv Ride: Sunday November 22, Mount Hamilton

2009-10-20 Thread Anne Paulson
The late fall is the perfect time to ride up Mount Hamilton. Let's do it the Sunday before Thanksgiving. If it's been dry, those interested can do an off-road detour. Any suggestions about where to meet? Parking is limited at the intersection of Alum Rock Road and Mt. Hamilton Road, so I think

[RBW] Re: RBW sizing compared to De Rosa Neo Primato

2009-10-20 Thread JoelMatthews
At risk of this being your point, won't your use and riding position on the De Rosa be different enough from the Rambo as to make any sort of comparison moot? On Oct 20, 3:32 pm, usuk2007 clive.stand...@umassmed.edu wrote: To keep the relative sizing posts going I thought I'd put this one out

[RBW] Re: OT - Stolen Handsome Devil in Austin, Texas

2009-10-20 Thread Cheryl Mitchell
I tried searching online, but couldn't come up with anything definitive on bicycling under the influence in Texas. I did read that you can be fined for public intoxication at least. Where I went to college in Davis, CA, you can be fined for bicycling under the influence (BUI), and it might even

[RBW] Re: RBW sizing compared to Surly KM

2009-10-20 Thread Mike
Hey David, be sure to check out the MTBR Surly forum. There's tons of info there and I've seen pictures of KMs with drop bars. Are you aware of these (scroll to the bottom and you'll see what I'm talking about)? http://salsacycles.com/handlebars_mtn.html A drop bar KM will be killer and I bet

[RBW] Re: Shimano Cassette $40 Shipped

2009-10-20 Thread doug peterson
Eric: Is it 11-13-15-17-19-21-24-28? And what level? HG-50 or HG-70 or?? dougP On Oct 12, 8:51 am, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: 8-speed HG, 11-28.  Wanted a 9-speed, got this by mistake.  Brand   spanking new in the package. $40 shipped in the CONUS. --Eric

[RBW] orange Hillborne touch-up paint?

2009-10-20 Thread Earl Grey
Hi, has anyone found a good match? Sure seems more likely that there is a matching nail polish color out there than for the green. :) Gernot --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group.

[RBW] Re: Shimano Cassette $40 Shipped

2009-10-20 Thread Eric Norris
Hg-70. Cogs are 11-12-14-16-18-21-24-28 ―Eric Norris Sent via iPhone On Oct 20, 2009, at 3:18 PM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Eric: Is it 11-13-15-17-19-21-24-28? And what level? HG-50 or HG-70 or?? dougP On Oct 12, 8:51 am, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: 8-speed

[RBW] Riv geometry and clipless

2009-10-20 Thread J L
I have a curious situation. I can't seem to get clipless shoes (neither shimano spd nor keen clipless sandals) to work with my road standard. Would the geometry have this great an effect in combination with snapping in? This is one of the 96 road standards - a 54cm. In reading Riv Catalog #3

[RBW] Re: Riv geometry and clipless

2009-10-20 Thread LF
clipless for a short ride = ankle tenderness inside of leg, usually one, but sometimes both legs. same bike, just pedals switched to road pedals and toe clips, same ride = no pain. I think this pain/tenderness is caused by the restriction of motion that these pedals have - I am somehow

[RBW] Re: Riv geometry and clipless

2009-10-20 Thread Joe Bartoe
I doubt that clipless pedals would be your problem. I have been riding a Riv Road with similar setup and angle for year with no real problems. My guess is that your cleat setup is off and needs to be aligned better. A quality bike shop should be able to hlp with this. Best of luck, Joe

[RBW] Re: orange Hillborne touch-up paint?

2009-10-20 Thread Phil Roberts
Nobody has commented on either an orange OR a green touch-up color. Does anyone else notice a similarity between the Sam colors and the Ibis colors in this picture? http://velonews.com/photo/99451 On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, has anyone found a

[RBW] Re: Riv geometry and clipless

2009-10-20 Thread Tim McNamara
On Oct 20, 2009, at 6:13 PM, J L wrote: I have a curious situation. I can't seem to get clipless shoes (neither shimano spd nor keen clipless sandals) to work with my road standard. Would the geometry have this great an effect in combination with snapping in? I can think of no

[RBW] Re: Random occurrences in the universe

2009-10-20 Thread cyclotourist
Yeah, those bottles do get away... And for TJ, the best advice I can ever give is buy several cases of whatever you find you like, cuz' in approximately one week your local TJs will not carry it any longer! On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 11:30 AM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Looks like a

[RBW] Re: RBW sizing compared to Surly KM

2009-10-20 Thread ToddBS
Have you taken a look at this bike? http://vassagocycles.com/fisty.html It seems to fit what you are looking for. I'm not trying to talk you out of the KM though. I do love the KM quite a bit. If you do plan on running Midge bars, I wouldn't go over the 20 frame. Maybe even look at the 18.

[RBW] Re: RBW sizing compared to Surly KM

2009-10-20 Thread ToddBS
Ahh, never mind on the Vassago. I see that it only has V-brake mounts and not canti studs. On Oct 20, 8:25 pm, ToddBS tobars...@gmail.com wrote: Have you taken a look at this bike? http://vassagocycles.com/fisty.html It seems to fit what you are looking for.  I'm not trying to talk you

[RBW] Re: RBW sizing compared to Surly KM

2009-10-20 Thread cyclotourist
A, thanks for the clarification, I get it now. Spacers don't bug me too much On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: Actually what I was trying to say was that the frame size does NOT affect the handlebar height, provided you start

[RBW] Re: RBW sizing compared to Surly KM

2009-10-20 Thread cyclotourist
I just got home, and had an email from the good people at Surley that suggested the 18 w/ Midge bars, 20 with regular bars. I'll definitely be using Midge/other drops, so will report back to the group! THANKS On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 5:25 PM, ToddBS tobars...@gmail.com wrote: Have you taken a

[RBW] Re: RBW sizing compared to Surly KM

2009-10-20 Thread cyclotourist
Bike in the top pic is awesome, just what I'm thinking of! On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 9:13 AM, james black chocot...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 07:26, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: So you're thinking 20 is better? That's why I asked the Bicycle Experts Inc.

[RBW] Re: RBW sizing compared to Surly KM

2009-10-20 Thread cyclotourist
I already have some Gary bars (Origin 8) so I'll use 'em. Glad Salsa is selling some drops. Wish OnOne weren't so difficult to get hold of in the States... On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Hey David, be sure to check out the MTBR Surly forum. There's tons of

[RBW] Re: Riv geometry and clipless

2009-10-20 Thread Christopher Paul
First question, exactly what kind of pedals are you using? Secondly, the position of the cleat can cause knee, back other issues (such as hot foot) if not angled and positioned correctly (including the fore and aft). If you can't snap in, I have to wonder if the cleats and pedals are properly

[RBW] Re: RBW sizing compared to De Rosa Neo Primato

2009-10-20 Thread usuk2007
The Ram to the Neo Primato are very different bikes, so I'm asking if anyone has experience of riding both RBW geometry and the classic Italian Stage Geometry of the Neo Primato and what size would be good given that a rider fits a 56cm Ram well. On Oct 20, 5:26 pm, JoelMatthews

[RBW] Re: Clipless Pedals

2009-10-20 Thread Pierre
Clipless vs toe clips vs just an ordinary touring pedal can be argued endlessly without resolution, because it depends on the context of how you intend to ride with them. If you're a performance-oriented type who rides saddle very high and forward, and you spin furiously toes down, you're

[RBW] Re: Tweed Madness!

2009-10-20 Thread Pierre
People always seem to need a uniform to wear for some reason. Tweed could be nice, I guess. Me, I'm still stuck in the hippie 60's and pre- disco 70's. I was already a cyclist then, and I just wore whatever I had that seemed comfortable. I still do to this day. Of course, my kids think I look

[RBW] Re: Riv geometry and clipless

2009-10-20 Thread Pierre
On Oct 20, 7:13 pm, J L subfas...@gmail.com wrote: I have a curious situation.  I can't seem to get clipless shoes (neither shimano spd nor keen clipless sandals) to work with my road standard.  Would the geometry have this great an effect in combination with snapping in? This is one of the

[RBW] Re: RBW sizing compared to De Rosa Neo Primato

2009-10-20 Thread JoelMatthews
OK, I get you. In my experience, the sizes do go down. My Hilsen was 59cm. Late 80s, early 90s I rode a 57 Basso. I recently rode a friend's classic 56 Masi and felt just fine. On Oct 20, 8:24 pm, usuk2007 clive.stand...@umassmed.edu wrote: The Ram to the Neo Primato are very different

[RBW] Re: NorCal Riv Ride: Sunday November 22, Mount Hamilton

2009-10-20 Thread Jim M.
O.K., I'll pencil it in and look for a smaller chainring. ;-) jim m On Oct 20, 1:54 pm, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: The late fall is the perfect time to ride up Mount Hamilton. Let's do it the Sunday before Thanksgiving. If it's been dry, those interested can do an off-road

[RBW] Re: RBW sizing compared to De Rosa Neo Primato

2009-10-20 Thread Horace
I have a similar experience. I currently ride a 59cm Romulus, and in the 80s and 90s I rode a 56cm Guerciotti. Horace. On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 6:51 PM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: OK, I get you. In my experience, the sizes do go down. My Hilsen was 59cm. Late 80s, early 90s

[RBW] Re: NorCal Riv Ride: Sunday November 22, Mount Hamilton

2009-10-20 Thread Ray Shine
I'll also pencil it in. RS --- On Tue, 10/20/09, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jim M. mather...@gmail.com Subject: [RBW] Re: NorCal Riv Ride: Sunday November 22, Mount Hamilton To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, October 20, 2009, 6:55 PM O.K.,

[RBW] Re: NorCal Riv Ride: Sunday November 22, Mount Hamilton

2009-10-20 Thread Anne Paulson
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: O.K., I'll pencil it in and look for a smaller chainring. ;-) Mount Hamilton is famously non-steep on the west side, the side we're climbing. They built the road to bring the telescope up to the top, and the oxen couldn't

[RBW] kool saddle

2009-10-20 Thread Steve Kesling
Brian had this real cool saddle on the nor cal ride on his Ram. I think he said he got it Hiawatha cyclery, the leather was replaceable. What kind was it? Steve --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW

[RBW] Re: OT - Stolen Handsome Devil in Austin, Texas

2009-10-20 Thread Angus
Used to live in CA, now live in TX. I have not read this rule first hand, but the local cyclists (who organize/participate in pub crawls on bikes...which can be a lot of fun) say you can be ticketed for riding under the influence on a public road. Angus On Oct 20, 3:11 pm, RoadieRyan

[RBW] Re: kool saddle

2009-10-20 Thread JoelMatthews
If you are handy, you can replace leather on Brooks and Ideale saddles. I have seen it done. Perhaps you are thinking of the new Berthoud which is more easily taken apart than many saddles: http://www.wallbike.com/~billlain/berthoud/selle/selle.html On Oct 20, 9:14 pm, Steve Kesling

[RBW] Re: kool saddle

2009-10-20 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Brian with a purple Rambouillet? He has a Berthoud saddle. At the moment, I have any color you want, as long as it's cork. On Oct 20, 9:14 pm, Steve Kesling akesl...@pacific.net wrote: Brian had this real cool saddle on the nor cal ride on his Ram.  I think he said he got it Hiawatha cyclery,

[RBW] SoCal Riv ride Sunday Oct 25

2009-10-20 Thread doug peterson
The Southern California Rivendell group will meet at 10 AM this Sunday 10/25 at the Irvine train station (Barranca Ada, in Irvine) for a mixed surface ride. Planned route involves Whiting Ranch (off road), connecting to Santiago Cyn Rd (paved) and Aliso Creek bike trail to Aliso Woods Cyn (off

[RBW] Re: SoCal Riv ride Sunday Oct 25

2009-10-20 Thread Esteban
Have a great time! Dustin and I are in Death Valley for the AdventureCorps event. On Oct 20, 9:08 pm, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: The Southern California Rivendell group will meet at 10 AM this Sunday 10/25 at the Irvine train station (Barranca Ada, in Irvine) for a mixed surface

[RBW] Re: Riv geometry and clipless

2009-10-20 Thread JL
Thanks everyone. All of your feedback has given me new places to start looking for solutions. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: NorCal Riv Ride: Sunday November 22, Mount Hamilton

2009-10-20 Thread T2
Actually there are lots of parking on side streets leading up to that intersection on both sides of Alum Rock rd., Google maps are your friend. Another alternative is to pick a parking lot inside Alum Rock Park for meet up. The ride through it l put you up a lttle way on Mt Hamilton rd (130) ,