[RBW] Is XT THAT much better than Deore?

2011-06-17 Thread Scotty
On My Surly I have the Deore rear derailer and it has performed flawlessly. I can not offer a single complaint about it. So when I ordered my AHH I got the same derailer. I notice that most people get the XT but they are almost a hundred bucks more and I am not convinced that it can be a hundred

[RBW] New A. Homer Hilsen Owner

2011-06-17 Thread Fuz
Pics here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ediblestarfish/sets/72157626971753428/ I'm a local to RBW (live in the same city), just dropped in one day on a Saturday, two months later, here it is. :D Too bad it's so hot now, I barely want to ride in the daytime. :( -- You received this message

[RBW] Re: FS Noodle Bar 44 Cockpit $110

2011-06-17 Thread jason
Sold! On Jun 12, 10:55 am, jason kib...@gmail.com wrote: Hi There, I have an unused cockpit with the following: Nitto Noodle Bars 44 $75 @ Rivendellhttp://www.rivbike.com/products/show/nitto-noodle-bar/16-113 Shimano Tiagra Levers

[RBW] Re: Surly's Tips for Happy Riding?

2011-06-17 Thread charlie
That's pretty Surly talk. ; ) On Jun 16, 8:57 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: I really like today's post on the Surly Blog (http://surlybikes.com/ blog/2514/). Seems to be in the same vein as Grant's Tips for Happy Riding. Some of my favorites from the Surly post: Hey, little

[RBW] Re: New A. Homer Hilsen Owner

2011-06-17 Thread Mike
I never get tired of looking at pictures of new Rivendells. Your bike looks great. Hope you get out this weekend. Perhaps you can post some shots of it in the wild. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this

Re: [RBW] New A. Homer Hilsen Owner

2011-06-17 Thread James Warren
Congratulations. That's a great bike! The color, the setup, the longboards, the carrying capacity, everything. -Original Message- From: Fuz ediblestarf...@gmail.com Sent: Jun 16, 2011 5:26 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] New A. Homer Hilsen

Re: [RBW] New A. Homer Hilsen Owner

2011-06-17 Thread Lyle Bogart
Gorgeous! Thanks for sharing the pics! On 16 June 2011 15:26, Fuz ediblestarf...@gmail.com wrote: Pics here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ediblestarfish/sets/72157626971753428/ I'm a local to RBW (live in the same city), just dropped in one day on a Saturday, two months later, here it is.

Re: [RBW] Is XT THAT much better than Deore?

2011-06-17 Thread Tim McNamara
The mid-range Shimano stuff tends to work great and to be excellent value. The upper end stuff tends to work great and be a less outstanding value. As with all things one may hit diminishing returns. The higher end stuff may last longer, but a Deore derailleur will probably last you 20

[RBW] Re: Is XT THAT much better than Deore?

2011-06-17 Thread Mike
I doubt I'd purchase a Deore or Ultegra derailer again. My Hilsen has an LX RR derailer I picked up for $35 a few years ago and has worked flawlessly. On my LHT that I recently put together I used a brand new Deore derailer I had picked up years ago for $17 and it's great. If I were to purchase a

[RBW] Teva Hurricanes on sale!

2011-06-17 Thread Mike
Hey, if any of you out there are a fan of Teva's Hurricane III sandal for cycling be aware that Sierra Trading post has them on sale for like $23. I got mine for $20 after I liked their FB page. I'm not a big fan of cycling in Tevas but I don't hate it either. Last year I spend a day of my tour in

[RBW] Re: Is XT THAT much better than Deore?

2011-06-17 Thread Minh
This is a bad list to ask this kind of question because lots of us still use deore stuff from the late 80's! or Suntour XC stuff even! that said, shimano is always trying to create more demand, i think the big reason for them creating/resurrecting the deore like was so that they could raise the

[RBW] Re: Is XT THAT much better than Deore?

2011-06-17 Thread Beth H
Seriously, it depends on whether you're running index or friction. If friction, it does. not. matter. My front derailleur on my All-Rounder is an old Shimano Alivio that I rescued from the metal recycling bin. A co-worker had tossed it for being a little rusty. I scraped off the rust, cleaned and

Re: [RBW] New A. Homer Hilsen Owner

2011-06-17 Thread Kelly Sleeper
Sweet and believe me, it only gets better -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/RbSQxoBFaLoJ. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Teva Hurricanes on sale!

2011-06-17 Thread Leslie
THX! I do wear Tevas a lot, my current pair are gettin' long in the tooth I'd been meaning to obtain a future pair. :) -L On Jun 17, 10:55 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, if any of you out there are a fan of Teva's Hurricane III sandal for cycling be aware that Sierra Trading

[RBW] Re: Hand pin-striping

2011-06-17 Thread reynoldslugs
Imperfection in paint and pin striping holds a lot of charm. One of my favorite bikes is a later model Jack Taylor. The lug lining was done (by hand, of course) by Norman Taylor. Michael Lawrence located the frame (NOS, hanging in Norman's old barn) for me, and before he shipped it to me he

[RBW] Re: Brooks trade...My Swift - Your B17 Special?

2011-06-17 Thread jinxed
TRADED!! Thanks Rob! WOW. Thanks for all the generous offers! I think Riv owners have more stock of Brooks saddles than the bike shops do!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Hand pin-striping

2011-06-17 Thread Seth Vidal
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:31 AM, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote: Imperfection in paint and pin striping holds a lot of charm.  One of my favorite bikes is a later model Jack Taylor.  The lug lining was done (by hand, of course) by Norman Taylor.  Michael Lawrence located the frame

[RBW] New SimpleOne owners, how are you liking the Dos Eno?

2011-06-17 Thread Rob H.
The 16t/19t White Industries DOS ENO freewheel seems to be sold out on Riv's website so there must be a lot of SimpleOne owners who are now installing these on their wheels. Does anyone know if are able to get all four gear/chainring combinations between the 16/19 and the Sugino 40/32? I'm

[RBW] Re: Teva Hurricanes on sale!

2011-06-17 Thread Zack
I actually like riding in these quite a bit. Paired with the Grip Kings, it's my favorite combination on the bike. I like Keens much more for just walking around, as the tevas are kind of flimsy, but on the bike I always go for the Tevas, particularly if I am going to ride a long distance. They

Re: [RBW] Re: Is XT THAT much better than Deore?

2011-06-17 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Tangential questions: 1. Aren't the high end lines now relatively more expensive compared to low end lines than they were 20 years ago when XT ruled the roost? I see $250+ rds in catalogues (along with $900 cranks and $300 cassettes). IIRC, top-of-line XT and XTR originally both maxed out at sub

[RBW] Re: New SimpleOne owners, how are you liking the Dos Eno?

2011-06-17 Thread Jim M.
Like the Quickbeam, the Simpleone is designed with dropouts that will manage a difference of 8 teeth. 40/19 to 32/16 is 11 teeth, so you can't get all four ratios from that set-up. In practice, I rarely shift my QB. I've thought of making it one chainring/one cog, but knowing that I have the

[RBW] Re: Brooks trade...My Swift - Your B17 Special?

2011-06-17 Thread pruckelshaus
If that's true, I could use one...black pro or B17? On Jun 17, 11:33 am, jinxed hbcl...@yahoo.com wrote: TRADED!! Thanks Rob! WOW. Thanks for all the generous offers!  I think Riv owners have more stock of Brooks saddles than the bike shops do!! -- You received this message because you

Re: [RBW] Rivs in the Rafters

2011-06-17 Thread robert zeidler
Nope. Hoarding and proud of it. On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:50 AM, jimD rasterd...@comcast.net wrote: OK, seems to me we should all reveal what Rivendell frames/bikes we have hanging around that we don't ride. I confessed

[RBW] Re: Is XT THAT much better than Deore?

2011-06-17 Thread Allan in Portland
buying a very expensive bike and why skimp on the parts, FWIW, I've always thought why should Shimano make more money off me than the builder? I'd rather allocate a higher percentage toward frame, fork, and wheels, and definitely skimp on the drivetrain. Drivetrain components are wear items

[RBW] Re: New SimpleOne owners, how are you liking the Dos Eno?

2011-06-17 Thread newenglandbike
I shift my QB from time to time (usually once on my way to work), but if I'm going to shift, I'm more likely to go from 40/16 to 32/19, or to 32/22 by flipping the wheel. -Matt On Jun 17, 11:59 am, Rob H. robhua...@gmail.com wrote: The 16t/19t White Industries DOS ENO freewheel seems to be sold

[RBW] Re: New SimpleOne owners, how are you liking the Dos Eno?

2011-06-17 Thread Mojo
My Q has been in single speed mode, vs fixed gear mode, for more than a year. http://www.flickr.com/photos/79695460@N00/2760281945/in/set-72157607471577085 I am using the 17-19 Dos Eno and that would work for you, though it would be quite low gearing. I am using the 17-19 with a 39-45 up front

[RBW] Obvious Riv connection

2011-06-17 Thread PATRICK MOORE
At least, per contraria. (Yes, I've got the ending right.) Me, I'll have two Rivs to carry in the back of the Acadienne. Here, courtesy of y'all-know-who is what y'all-know-who entitles Fred's Wet Dream.

[RBW] Re: Is XT THAT much better than Deore?

2011-06-17 Thread Mike
FWIW, I've always thought why should Shimano make more money off me than the builder? I'd rather allocate a higher percentage toward frame, fork, and wheels, and definitely skimp on the drivetrain. Drivetrain components are wear items anyway, they will be replaced sooner or later. Regards,

[RBW] Re: Is XT THAT much better than Deore?

2011-06-17 Thread William
The horrible thing about the latest XT rear derailleurs is the lack of a barrel adjuster. Even using friction, I prefer to have one for the rear der. Using downtube or barcon index, no barrel adjuster is unforgivable in my opinion. Yeah, Riv sells an aftermarket one, but that's a lame

[RBW] Re: A Simple Moustache.......

2011-06-17 Thread EastBayGuy
Thanks for all the Good Wishes. Many miles ahead for myself and the SimpleOne. Defender 90's are coming Back in 2014 FYI. Cheers! Dustin G Walnut Creek On Jun 16, 10:39 pm, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote: Great looking set up.I entertained the idea of mustache bars too. I may

[RBW] WTB - 22t 74bcd inner for TA Zephyr

2011-06-17 Thread reynoldslugs
Peter White is out of the 22t inners, so I'm looking for one, or reasonable facsimile. Any ideas, please let me know off-list. It for a Rivendell Road Standard. thanks. RL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this

[RBW] Re: WTB - 22t 74bcd inner for TA Zephyr

2011-06-17 Thread William
22 tooth rings exist for 74mm BCD? I always thought you couldn't go smaller than a 24 teeth on 74mm. I have a 22t ring but it's for 5 bolt 58mm BCD. On Jun 17, 1:19 pm, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote: Peter White is out of the 22t inners, so I'm looking for one, or reasonable

Re: [RBW] Re: Is XT THAT much better than Deore?

2011-06-17 Thread Eric Daume
2. - LX is out of Shimano's mountain range in the US, replaced by SLX (LX is now a Euro trekking group). Shimano's mountain heirarchy is XTR, XT, SLX, Deore. Eric On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:23 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Tangential questions: 1. Aren't the high end lines

[RBW] Re: Hand pin-striping

2011-06-17 Thread Montclair BobbyB
This is what I would consider genuine perfection... Thanks! BB On Jun 17, 11:34 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:31 AM, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote: Imperfection in paint and pin striping holds a lot of charm.  One of my favorite bikes is a later

[RBW] Re: WTB - 22t 74bcd inner for TA Zephyr

2011-06-17 Thread Ian Dickson
The 22t is a 56 bcd ring, which nobody makes anymore. The Zephyr has two sets of holes for the granny, the outer being 74 and the inner 56. You might find some of the salsa 22T rings that have holes for 56 and 58 bcd. Also, old Suntour Microdrive cranks used 56 bcd inners. I think the grannies

Re: [RBW] Rivs in the Rafters

2011-06-17 Thread jimD
Not that I'm in favor of proliferating Flickr Riv subset groups but perhaps a Rivendell Hoarders flickr group would be in order? But then we'd have to decide if the photos need to be of the bikes/frames hanging from the rafters or if pictures of the bikes in their pre-hoarded days would be

Re: [RBW] Re: Is XT THAT much better than Deore?

2011-06-17 Thread Bertin753
Thanks. Hard to keep up with all the changes. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 17, 2011, at 2:58 PM, Eric Daume ericda...@gmail.com wrote: 2. - LX is out of Shimano's mountain range in the US, replaced by SLX (LX is now a Euro trekking group). Shimano's mountain heirarchy is XTR, XT, SLX, Deore.

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB - 22t 74bcd inner for TA Zephyr

2011-06-17 Thread cyclotourist
Salsa makes one. It's a real smart design with an oval bolt hole that fits 56 or 58. Cheap, too. http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/5034952057/ On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Ian Dickson iandicks...@gmail.com wrote: The 22t is a 56 bcd ring, which nobody makes anymore. The Zephyr

[RBW] Wee, very wee, pannier? Sent from my iPhone

2011-06-17 Thread Bertin753
Now that I have a very nice front bag for the Herse, I'd like to find a very small pannier to carry tubes and other repair/spares kit in-- something about the size of a large, mountain seat wedge sufficient for 2 fattish tubes, tools, saddle cover, patch kit and, as well, that has room for a

[RBW] Re: Wee, very wee, pannier? Sent from my iPhone

2011-06-17 Thread Bertin753
As usual, neglected to explain fully: the large front bag will be kept free for dog, groceries, and so forth. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 17, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Bertin753 bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Now that I have a very nice front bag for the Herse, I'd like to find a very small pannier to

[RBW] HS

2011-06-17 Thread Pondero
Let the speculation begin... http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/knothole_post/365 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Wee, very wee, pannier? Sent from my iPhone

2011-06-17 Thread Montclair BobbyB
You may have seen these... I don't own one, but love the way they look, as well as the fact that they're repurposed military bags. The blinky can clip on this, and you should have room under the seat. http://www.outyourbackdoor.com/article.php?id=1245 On Jun 17, 7:33 pm, Bertin753

[RBW] Re: Market Prices for Riv Frames

2011-06-17 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Charlie: The older ones with the bi-plane fork can sometimes fetch more, but I personally think the 1985 was the best year (before the chainstay mounted brake reared its ugly head). For a 1985 Stumpy (which WAS the first year with the unicrown S stamped lug fork) in good condition and original

Re: [RBW] HS

2011-06-17 Thread Ray Shine
HS = Hub Shift?!? From: Pondero cj.spin...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 4:55 PM Subject: [RBW] HS Let the speculation begin... http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/knothole_post/365 -- You received

[RBW] Re: Is XT THAT much better than Deore?

2011-06-17 Thread Montclair BobbyB
I absolutely love the older Shimano XTRs... used of course... Well made, flawless shifting, and for the price of even a new LX or Deore you CAN find a deal on a used XTR. Also the older (late 80s/early 90s) Deore derailleurs (as were the first gen Deerhead types, but typically more spendy) were

[RBW] Re: New SimpleOne owners, how are you liking the Dos Eno?

2011-06-17 Thread Dave Craig
I'm running the 16/19 with 32/36 in front on my QB. This gives me about the same range as stock (40/32 with a single 18t freewheel) with a dandy looking fender line, great chainline, a bailout gear AND easy wheel removal. I only use the 16/36 and 19/32 combos. I live in a pretty hilly town and

Re: [RBW] Re: Wee, very wee, pannier? Sent from my iPhone

2011-06-17 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Thanks; I know these well -- in fact, very shortsightedly I gave the one I owned away last Xmas season. And I had even adapted it for use as a pannier. It was to my brother -- perhaps I can lean on him to return it ... On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com

[RBW] Re: New SimpleOne owners, how are you liking the Dos Eno?

2011-06-17 Thread charlie
I'm with some of the others hereI have mine set up with 39x36 rings and the 16-19 This allows me a 36x19=51 39x16=66 and I think I can use it the other way too.but I don't. I don't have the axle changing position on the dropout and I get a mid low and a mid high gear. I plan on a 22 tooth

[RBW] Re: HS

2011-06-17 Thread Leslie
I think it sounds really interesting; I love the idea of the 'Nine' (for the Fellowship, eh?) (or, the Nazgul) Wish I could, but, a bit beyond what I need to be doing (I've got one already in the pipeline, am patiently waiting on)... I hope it's really successful for G -- You

[RBW] Re: Is XT THAT much better than Deore?

2011-06-17 Thread EricP
Happen to like the modern Deore just fine. Have used a modern XT. It shifts more crisply in index mode. At least on bar ends on non paved roads. Otherwise the regular Deore and LX are good rear derailers. Like Beth, I use a cheap Shimano for the front on my Sam Hillborne. Works just fine with

[RBW] Re: HS

2011-06-17 Thread EricP
Definitely beyond what I'd be comfortable spending. But I hope it does work out and becomes a regular model. No matter what. (Well, maybe not a mountain unicycle or full suspension recumbent.) Was guessing HS meant highly secret as in, no telling what the bike is until it's in your hands. (Or

[RBW] Re: Is XT THAT much better than Deore?

2011-06-17 Thread Scotty
Thanks for all of the good responses to my question. I feel confident in my decision now. Waiting for my bike has given me plenty of time to second guess just about every part of my new bike, and I haven’t even gotten a look at it yet. I think I am finally done second guessing. I am going to leave

[RBW] The bike collection (or hoard?)

2011-06-17 Thread mike
Sort of related to Rivs in the Rafters, but started as a new thread here since there's little Riv content. And none in my rafters. I have some tendency to hoard (my first and only Riv is in the building stage (S1)) and my wife tends to want to get rid of stuff. That makes for a good balance. A

[RBW] Re: New SimpleOne owners, how are you liking the Dos Eno?

2011-06-17 Thread mike
So far my S1 has a 17 tooth single. Can't comment too much on it because I don't even have a chain installed yet, or brake levers. Should get the first trial run this weekend. I'm going to get the gearing tested out for a while before I spring for a White freewheel (if ever). The cranks will

[RBW] Re: Is XT THAT much better than Deore?

2011-06-17 Thread Joe Bernard
I'm a derailer snob. I prefer XT and Ultegra because..um..I just do. Not necessarily the current versions, though. Any old piece in nice condition will do. I've been looking for a mid-'90s 8-speed-era XT for a while now. Yes, there's a current normal pull LX. I recently bought one from a trike

[RBW] Re: New A. Homer Hilsen Owner

2011-06-17 Thread Fuz
Thanks for the comments. :) I'll be out on business travel unfortunately, but I'll update with some pics when I get back and post them to the rivendell flickr tag. The black metallic looks better in motion and in the sun where it sparkles more. On Jun 17, 6:39 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [RBW] Re: Hand pin-striping

2011-06-17 Thread CycloFiend
on 6/17/11 8:34 AM, Seth Vidal at skvi...@gmail.com wrote: sigh how I miss cyclofiend current classics. -sv Hang in there sports fans. Seems like I'm juggling too many cats and chainsaws these days. Folks have been politely and steadily sending images, though, and there are a few