[RBW] Re: Pavement/dirt; fat/skinny; hard/soft: what are your likes?

2012-02-03 Thread Patrick in VT
On Feb 1, 5:34 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: So, what's y'all's preference for combination on/off road riding? Fat and soft on pavement, or skinny, hard 42s on dirt? There are so many varietals of dirt - Vermont has quite a few. Pennsylvania has its own brand. And from what

[RBW] Re: Kojak!

2012-02-03 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Awesome setup, Brian. That's a keeper. BB On Feb 3, 12:50 am, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick - totally agree on the Kojaks!  I've run the 2 inchers on my Miyata commuter for about a year now.  Super smooth, and light enough.  Not the total cushy of a Big Apple, but a lot less

[RBW] Re: Pavement/dirt; fat/skinny; hard/soft: what are your likes?

2012-02-03 Thread Montclair BobbyB
We need a grass-roots movement to push for Hetres to be made in other sizes... 26 and 700 On Feb 3, 9:26 am, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 1, 5:34 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: So, what's y'all's preference for combination on/off road riding? Fat and

Re: [RBW] Pavement/dirt; fat/skinny; hard/soft: what are your likes?

2012-02-03 Thread robert zeidler
+1 On Friday, February 3, 2012, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: We need a grass-roots movement to push for Hetres to be made in other sizes... 26 and 700 On Feb 3, 9:26 am, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 1, 5:34 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com

Re: [RBW] Re: a few more bullmoose

2012-02-03 Thread William
My laptop has an extended battery that makes it extremely square in shape, and sure enough, when the slickersack arrived (in magnificent Origami-box fashion) the corners of my laptop pooch out the walls of the slickersack. That does it! I'm getting a new one. I agree with you, though,

[RBW] Re: Kojak!

2012-02-03 Thread Tim McNamara
I've been using the 26 x 1.25 Pasela for years, finding it to be the fastest 26 tire bigger than 26 x 1.0 of all the ones I've tried, except the old Avocet slick which hasn't been available for years. It feels slower than the 700C versions of the Pasela, although objectively my average speeds

RE: [RBW] Pavement/dirt; fat/skinny; hard/soft: what are your likes?

2012-02-03 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
I have a set of the relatively new Compass Cycles 26 inch tires, which I briefly mounted on an early '80s Mongoose ATB out of curiosity (it normally rides on 60mm Fat Franks). The Compass tires ride like a dream, very cushy but very quick feeling. Sort of, uh, Hetre-like.

[RBW] Re: Pavement/dirt; fat/skinny; hard/soft: what are your likes?

2012-02-03 Thread Patrick in VT
On Feb 3, 10:46 am, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: +1 anybody try the Compass 26x1.75? looks like it might be comparable, despite the different tread. Bobby's Grand Tycoon sounds about right too ... I'd buy that on name alone. but i'm wary of buying 26 tires because 650b is

Re: [RBW] Re: Kojak!

2012-02-03 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I wonder how the fat ones would do off road -- how wide is the actual measurement when mounted on a typical ~24 mm rim? On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome setup, Brian.  That's a keeper. BB On Feb 3, 12:50 am, Brian Hanson

Re: [RBW] Re: Kojak!

2012-02-03 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I used the 559X32 mm (1.25) Pasela and was less than overwhelmed. The Kojak rolls better and is certainly more flat resistant; of course it costs more than twice as much. What 559X1 tires did you use? I haven't ridden the Kojaks enough to say for sure, but I *think* they roll as well as the tiny,

Re: [RBW] Re: Kojak!

2012-02-03 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Oh, and how do the Fat Franks compare with the K and the BAs -- weight, flat resistance, rolling resistance? On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 10:03 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder how the fat ones would do off road -- how wide is the actual measurement when mounted on a typical ~24

RE: [RBW] Re: Kojak!

2012-02-03 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Can't compare -- I have ridden only the Fat Franks (which I've ridden a lot) among those tires. But I know Bobby B has ridden all three, and has informed opinions. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of

[RBW] Re: Kojak!

2012-02-03 Thread Tim McNamara
On Feb 3, 2012, at 11:09 AM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: I used the 559X32 mm (1.25) Pasela and was less than overwhelmed. The Kojak rolls better and is certainly more flat resistant; of course it costs more than twice as much. What 559X1 tires did you use? I haven't ridden the Kojaks enough to

[RBW] Re: Build kits!

2012-02-03 Thread Dave Rivbike
the 8sp was a typo. all kits are 9. noodles and tiagra brake levers cost more than the alba/mtb levers On Feb 2, 8:25 pm, Jay in Tel Aviv jayin...@gmail.com wrote: Any idea why the 8 speed Noodle kit is $120 more than the 9 speed Albas? As far as I can tell everything else is the same. Jay

Re: [RBW] Pavement/dirt; fat/skinny; hard/soft: what are your likes?

2012-02-03 Thread Steven Frederick
No way! If you guys want Hetres you have to come over to the 650b side! B-) Steve On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 10:46 AM, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: +1 On Friday, February 3, 2012, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: We need a grass-roots movement to push for

[RBW] Re: Pavement/dirt; fat/skinny; hard/soft: what are your likes?

2012-02-03 Thread Patrick in VT
On Feb 3, 11:34 am, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: I have a set of the relatively new Compass Cycles 26 inch tires, which I briefly mounted on an early '80s Mongoose ATB out of curiosity (it normally rides on 60mm Fat Franks).  The Compass tires ride like a dream,

[RBW] Re: Kojak!

2012-02-03 Thread Montclair BobbyB
I don't put in nearly the kind of miles that you all mightnevertheless from what I have observed between all three tires: - For riding mostly road, I prefer the 50mm wide Kojaks at 50+ PSI (70 is max)... These roll like magic - For a mix of road/dirt, I prefer the Big Apples (50mm is still

[RBW] Re: Pavement/dirt; fat/skinny; hard/soft: what are your likes?

2012-02-03 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
No doubt the MTB bike and parts mfrs are going to push 650B this year...akin to the road bike manufacturers jumping on the 10+ speed cassettes and other changes over the years. It's important to the bike business model to have something new to sell on a continuous basis. It would be a simple

[RBW] Big bikes and limits

2012-02-03 Thread Esteban
I chose my Protovelo in early 2008 as a frame special - a try-out from from Mark Nobilette back before he started making the Riv customs. It was off-the-shelf, but it was exactly what I was looking for in a custom at the time - 650B, all-rounder good for rambling and commuting - a transportation

[RBW] Re: Big bikes and limits

2012-02-03 Thread newenglandbike
Awesome bike man. On cursory judgement by the seatpost and seat/handlebar height, it looks like it fits damn comfortably. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit

[RBW] Re: Pavement/dirt; fat/skinny; hard/soft: what are your likes?

2012-02-03 Thread Patrick in VT
On Feb 3, 3:04 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: It would be a simple thing to wave one's hand and dismiss these innovations as so much hype . ... I don't mean to be dismissive. Anybody who has developed preferences, as many on this list have, appreciates options -

[RBW] Re: Big bikes and limits

2012-02-03 Thread Mojo
I agree with neb, that is a nice fit, and a wonderful functional setup! I have talked to a couple of Atlantis owners that have expressed your 'speed limit' observation, and I too have observed that on my LHT. The damn bike just won't respond to my attempts to hammer. But as soon as I sit up and

[RBW] Re: Big bikes and limits

2012-02-03 Thread Montclair BobbyB
There must be a governor on my Bombadil, cuz I get the same. Then again, as you pointed out Esteban, maybe it begs to be ridden at the right speed... There ARE exceptions to this phenomenon, though... On big downhills I've outpaced my friend on his Pinarello Dogma (my saddlebag weighs more than

[RBW] regarding the defunct rapid rise derailers and those anti-handlebar-flop doohickeys.

2012-02-03 Thread Rick
A year or more ago, my rambunctious golden retrievers knocked over the Atlantis, which was politely drying in the afternoon sun after a nice bath. The derailer hanger bent, and it totaled my original derailer, which was the now-discontinued rapid rise version. I admonished the dogs, and

[RBW] Re: a few more bullmoose

2012-02-03 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Me... Besides Slickersack-envy, I've got the po-boy version on my Platrack... zip-tied Wald basket and a rugged, nicely used paramedic jump bag that makes the perfect man-purse... It holds everything, including my laptop and a whole buncha other stuff. On Feb 3, 10:52 am, William

[RBW] Re: regarding the defunct rapid rise derailers and those anti-handlebar-flop doohickeys.

2012-02-03 Thread Tom M
This? http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/vo-wheel-stabilizer.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/GfNZ9eEudowJ. To

RE: [RBW] regarding the defunct rapid rise derailers and those anti-handlebar-flop doohickeys.

2012-02-03 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
One device is called a Hebie something or other -- here's a pic of one mounted on a Trek hybrid. A very similar device is here at VO: http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/vo-wheel-stabilizer.html. $10! -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com

[RBW] Re: Big bikes and limits

2012-02-03 Thread Esteban
What's interesting is that Jan Heine rides the same size as I do, and the Protovelo is a bit larger (and designed differently) than the GBUB, but that is also a big bike. But he flys on it, I'm sure... Granted, I am not a fast rider and Jan is whippet thin and a strong rider to boot -- but the

[RBW] Re: Big bikes and limits

2012-02-03 Thread Michael Hechmer
Esteban, you forgot to mention how damn good looking the bike was! I'm sure there are almost as many opinions about the lively issue as there are tire sizes. Two variables trump everything else. The right set of tires wheels can make a bike feel much more lively and give a rider that little

Re: [RBW] Re: Kojak!

2012-02-03 Thread William
That Miyata was machined from a single block of pure billet AWESOME -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/NghZ2k4hjMAJ. To post to this

[RBW] Re: regarding the defunct rapid rise derailers and those anti-handlebar-flop doohickeys.

2012-02-03 Thread Leslie
I seem to recall that GCo were looking at removing and putting the rear-der spring back on, to convert normals to reverse... Anything come of that?? -L -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web

[RBW] Re: Kojak!

2012-02-03 Thread Jeremy Till
Thanks for the review! I've had my eye on these for a long time, and got to check out a pair of the 26x2's at the shop last week (I'd have brought them home, but I don't have any 26 bikes!). They were interesting in that they had a very supple sidewall with a thin but relatively stiff tread

Re: [RBW] Re: Kojak!

2012-02-03 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I'm well over the absolute need for a light bike -- the Fargo in its lightest form is probably no less than 28 lb and the trike is probably about 30 lb -- tho' I do very much appreciate the effect of weight on the feel of a bike, particularly handling, climbing and acceleration; my Rivs take over

Re: [RBW] Re: Kojak!

2012-02-03 Thread PATRICK MOORE
It's a Truvative; I don't know the model. I do know that several Truvative posts, road and off road, are designed with generous setback. Riv content: my penchant for slamming my saddle allaway back is due to Grant's influence: when I ordered my first (1994, Waterford) Riv I complained that I was

Re: [RBW] regarding the defunct rapid rise derailers and those anti-handlebar-flop doohickeys.

2012-02-03 Thread Bill Gibson
Toe strap. Or, http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/m3.htm My John's Irish Straps have held heavy loads, so the wheel flop factor will not faze 'em. On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Rick richardholc...@yahoo.com wrote: A year or more ago, my rambunctious golden retrievers knocked over the

Re: [RBW] Re: Kojak!

2012-02-03 Thread Brian Hanson
Thanks, William - I think it is currently my favorite ride. It's dialed in as they say. On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 4:25 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: That Miyata was machined from a single block of pure billet AWESOME -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: [RBW] regarding the defunct rapid rise derailers and those anti-handlebar-flop doohickeys.

2012-02-03 Thread PATRICK MOORE
FWIW, I replaced the VO 2-leg stand (which IME worked better than the twice-as-expensive Pletscher -- the legs spread wider) with a cheap Greenfield rear dropout mount stand after my grocery bike kept falling over with any large rear load. It looked uglier but it worked much better, even, oddly

Re: [RBW] Big bikes and limits

2012-02-03 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Very pretty, and your observations on a built in speed limit are interesting. I wonder how much has to do with geometry, tubing, overall weight, wheel weight, position and tires -- and for that matter, terrain. I know that the Fargo with soft Big Apples definitely has a governor-limited speed on

Re: [RBW] Pavement/dirt; fat/skinny; hard/soft: what are your likes?

2012-02-03 Thread William
Jan will tell you 700x32 Grand Bois Cypres *is* the functional match for the 650x42 Hetre. You can't get it in red, though. There's a pretty good chance my next bike will be built around the 700x32 Cypres. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW

[RBW] New BO Moustache bar

2012-02-03 Thread Andrew
Newest item at RBW... the BO Moustache Bar: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/build-hb3.htm Any ideas what makes this one different from the other M'bars? My wife notes that I have enough moustache bars already, and more than enough BO, and that I most certainly therefore do not need a BO bar...

Re: [RBW] Pavement/dirt; fat/skinny; hard/soft: what are your likes?

2012-02-03 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Fri, 2012-02-03 at 18:24 -0800, William wrote: Jan will tell you 700x32 Grand Bois Cypres is the functional match for the 650x42 Hetre. You can't get it in red, though. There's a pretty good chance my next bike will be built around the 700x32 Cypres. I can't believe that for a minute.

[RBW] Re: New BO Moustache bar

2012-02-03 Thread Jeremy Till
It looks like it's just the normal moustache bar (same description and designation, RM-016), but categorized under Build Only Inventory. Not sure what that means. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion

Re: [RBW] regarding the defunct rapid rise derailers and those anti-handlebar-flop doohickeys.

2012-02-03 Thread Rex Kerr
Interesting... I didn't want to have one bike be the odd man out, so I opted NOT to buy my r-d from Riv (sorry guys!) in order to get a traditional high-normal setup to match my other bikes. The test rides were a problem as I kept shifting into a higher gear at stop signs. I'm surprised that

Re: [RBW] regarding the defunct rapid rise derailers and those anti-handlebar-flop doohickeys.

2012-02-03 Thread Joe Bunik
FWIW, and perhaps on a lark, I opted to test the rapid rise r.d. waters on my recent Legolas build: http://www.flickr.com/photos/joe_bunik/6630325529/ picked up a used set of XTR fd/rd, and have to say they is like buttah... I have not had any problems with confusion while shifting... =- Joe