[RBW] Re: One for the fire chief - 56 Bombadil on the 'bay

2012-02-07 Thread Smitty-A-Go-Go
Love the family style s24o! And excellent video. Me and mine did a multi-family s72o last yearhttp://smittyagogo.wordpress.com/2011/06/27/suiattle-kidspedition-2011/. Looking forward to the kids riding a bit more on their own in the coming years. -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Any weight difference in Romulus/Rambouillet?

2012-02-07 Thread Eric
Any weight difference in Romulus/Rambouillet? Just curious, not trying to be a weight weenie! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this

Re: [RBW] Any weight difference in Romulus/Rambouillet?

2012-02-07 Thread Steven Frederick
A handful of grams at most--I think the Romulus used slightly beefier stays. Steve On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 8:11 AM, Eric ericwolfo...@gmail.com wrote: Any weight difference in Romulus/Rambouillet? Just curious, not trying to be a weight weenie! -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: Any weight difference in Romulus/Rambouillet?

2012-02-07 Thread Michael Hechmer
I would expect that the Romulus used more rigid seat stays and front fork to support the canti brakes. Maybe a couple of oz. Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit

Re: [RBW] Re: Any weight difference in Romulus/Rambouillet?

2012-02-07 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2012-02-07 at 05:25 -0800, Michael Hechmer wrote: I would expect that the Romulus used more rigid seat stays and front fork to support the canti brakes. Maybe a couple of oz. The original Romulus did not have canti brakes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: [RBW] Re: Any weight difference in Romulus/Rambouillet?

2012-02-07 Thread Steven Frederick
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Tue, 2012-02-07 at 05:25 -0800, Michael Hechmer wrote: I would expect that the Romulus used more rigid seat stays and front fork to support the canti brakes.  Maybe a couple of oz. The original Romulus did not have

[RBW] Re: PDX Saturday Ride?

2012-02-07 Thread Ron MH
I'd be up for a ride, except I work on Saturday mornings. I'm not done until 1:00. That wouldn't' leave much time for a ride. :( Thanks for the invitation. On Feb 2, 9:30 am, Smitty-A-Go-Go 54ca...@gmail.com wrote: Putting out the feelers to see if any PDX Rivsters are interested to get out

[RBW] New Bicycle Quarterly Web Site

2012-02-07 Thread Jan Heine
The new Bicycle Quarterly web site is up and running: New layout, new contents and some new sample articles from the pages of Bicycle Quarterly. These include the famous Collecting Roads article, the inspirational report from the Raid Pyreneen and Jada Van Vliet's Touring in India on a

[RBW] Re: Good quality fixed/free ss rear hubs with QR?

2012-02-07 Thread Jim M.
The QB and SO are both 120 spaced at the rear. The original QB hub with quick release was made for Riv by Suzue. It was a free/free flip flop, though I fixed mine with a BB lock ring and some loctite. I think the SO hub might be a free/fix but it is 120. I've also used White Industries hubs. They

[RBW] Re: Good quality fixed/free ss rear hubs with QR?

2012-02-07 Thread EricP
Been using an All City hub. Didn't have a problem with it last year and about 500 or so miles. (The bike it is on switches between single speed and 1x8 or 9). Jim Thill at Hiawatha suggested it as a more reliable model than the Surly. And the price is about the same. Comes as a bolt on, but

[RBW] Re: One for the fire chief - 56 Bombadil on the 'bay

2012-02-07 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Bill: What a great trip!! Big points for the BART/Ferry Combo. Thanks for sharing that... I've vowed to do a few S24Os this year...involving multi-modes of transportation. I only wish my kids (who prefer to travel by car) had an interest in joining me... I'm holding out hope that once they have

[RBW] 1up bike rack for sale

2012-02-07 Thread Lola
Having been really successful in selling our two Rambouillets through this group, ( thanks Jason and Dan!) we need to sell our bike carrier. This is the fastest hitch mounting and bike loading rack ever and works like a dream. We searched for a long time to find a rack as good as this

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012

2012-02-07 Thread Marc Irwin
I intend to be there and will stay with the masses at the Paddlers. I have no preferencefor the starting point. You know the terrain better than I. I have no preference about the falling waters ( I've seen a lot of FLW, but one more won't hurt either.). Let me know the what when and where of

[RBW] Re: Continuing Maintenace Queries - Phil Woob BB Bearings?

2012-02-07 Thread ascpgh
Jim: The Phil BB in my 2001 Ram is still there and still going after a Trans Am ride and everything since . The one in my new in 2007 commuter died last spring. I put in a cheap UN-71 I had and never got around to sending the crunchy Phil in for service. I guess extreme conditions can mitigate

[RBW] Re: VO polished rims, performance issues

2012-02-07 Thread Bill Lucas
Brain, Try maroon scotch-brite, 7447. This is the normal stuff. I use it to clean rims. Regards, Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe

[RBW] Re: One for the fire chief - 56 Bombadil on the 'bay

2012-02-07 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Awesome stuff, Smitty!!! Thanks, BB On Feb 7, 3:44 am, Smitty-A-Go-Go 54ca...@gmail.com wrote: Love the family style s24o! And excellent video. Me and mine did a multi-family s72o last yearhttp://smittyagogo.wordpress.com/2011/06/27/suiattle-kidspedition-2011/. Looking forward to the kids

[RBW] Need help deciding... Soma San Marcos or Revamp an 84 Trek 610...

2012-02-07 Thread trek610
Hi all, I am at a cross roads and need some help deciding on how best to spend my money... I am looking to get a nice all around bike for commuting, perhaps a century or two, 2 day bike overnight credit card, and light trail (crushed limestone/dirt) type riding. In the summer I wind up with

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012

2012-02-07 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Thanks, Marc. We're just about at capacity at the Paddler's Lane, but there are other BBs in town that hopefully will be suitable (see my previous post with links). Something else to consider: CAMPING (by the way) IS an option at Paddler's Lane, if any of you are so inclined. It's inexpensive,

[RBW] Re: Need help deciding... Soma San Marcos or Revamp an 84 Trek 610...

2012-02-07 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
I've said before that it's always an honorable thing to revitalize an older, worthy frame. It seemed like it might be a push until you got to add canti posts - . It's also been a while since I looked seriously at 650B conversion candidates, and while I suspect that 610 is among them, I'm not

Re: [RBW] Re: Any weight difference in Romulus/Rambouillet?

2012-02-07 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
There were some minor differences in joinery and dropouts, but they were pretty much the same frame with some simpler paint. http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/romulus - Jim / Cyclofiend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To

[RBW] Re: One for the fire chief - 56 Bombadil on the 'bay

2012-02-07 Thread William
MBB, I had the kids come watch the video I did of that trip and told them we should pick our destinations for this summer so I can get on top of campsite reservations and everything. They are pretty fired up about it. The other micro-camping adventure we've done that you might try is we

Re: [RBW] Atlantis vs. Sam

2012-02-07 Thread Steven Frederick
Atlantis seems to be the consensus. I would agree with the qualifier that, if you ride small enough a frame to be on a 650b Sam or 26 Atlantis, I'd at least consider the Sam. Just because I like 650b wheels. Steve On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 7:17 PM, murphyjrfk murphyj...@gmail.com wrote: i know

Re: [RBW] Re: Any weight difference in Romulus/Rambouillet?

2012-02-07 Thread William
The much longer name : Rambouillet, means a much heavier decal, negating a significant part of the weight savings. Don't even get me started on headbadges! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web

[RBW] Re: Need help deciding... Soma San Marcos or Revamp an 84 Trek 610...

2012-02-07 Thread Will
Greetings. I also live in Madison, ride a 610 from 1984. It's a 54 cm... I am 5'6. Nice bike, good geometry, vertical compliance is very nice. A bit of spring to it. Some thoughts. Start with a trip to Budget Bikes on Regent, the used store location. I've always found used fenders: in

[RBW] Nuance of the RBW birthday program

2012-02-07 Thread William
I just got my Happy Birthday email, with a 10% discount coupon for one item. I was shocked and offended that it contains disclaimer language that I am not permitted to transfer the coupon code to my valet. It's an outrage, I tell you, an OUTRAGE! My valet, Alistair, is beside himself in

[RBW] Re: Need help deciding... Soma San Marcos or Revamp an 84 Trek 610...

2012-02-07 Thread William
Both! San Marcos immediately and take your time with the Trek. Do the builds to complement each other in your stable. After you are done with both, if you decide there is too much overlap and you can't stand owning two bikes, sell the one you don't like. -- You received this message

Re: [RBW] Re: Any weight difference in Romulus/Rambouillet?

2012-02-07 Thread Horace
Yes, but after taking kerning into account, the difference is much less. On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 10:36 AM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: The much longer name : Rambouillet, means a much heavier decal, negating a significant part of the weight savings. Don't even get me started on

[RBW] Re: Intro from new Riv rider

2012-02-07 Thread Jim
That is an excellent question, and I will measure it once I get back to town (Sunday) and get the wheels back on it (being serviced as we speak, trip was a good time to take them off line). My PBH is 100, and this bike is definitely not too small! Jim On Jan 29, 10:51 pm, JL

[RBW] Re: Need help deciding... Soma San Marcos or Revamp an 84 Trek 610...

2012-02-07 Thread rcnute
I like buying new bikes as much as the next guy but I'd just build up the Trek without all the mods. Use it for your sprightlier adventures and keep the LHT (nice setup there by the way) for other times. The Soma looks like it'd ride quite nicely but my guess is that it splits the difference

Re: [RBW] Re: Any weight difference in Romulus/Rambouillet?

2012-02-07 Thread William
kerning! Exceptionally well played, sir. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/HXShPeY7ookJ. To post to this group, send email to

Re: [RBW] 1up bike rack for sale

2012-02-07 Thread Larry Schellhase
The posted link does not work, is this the correct link http://www.1upusa.com/1upusarackhome.htm On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Lola jimn...@gmail.com wrote: Having been really successful in selling our two Rambouillets through this group, ( thanks Jason and Dan!) we need to sell our bike

[RBW] Trade?: Nitto S83 for Crystal Fellow or 626

2012-02-07 Thread cpkane
I've got a Nitto S83 that's 27.2, that I'd like to trade for a Crystal Fellow or 626, also in 27.2. Scratched up is OK, rust is not. Let me know if interested, I'll send pics of mine. Thanks! Chris Greenfield, MA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW

[RBW] Re: Best barcons ever?

2012-02-07 Thread William
I got them installed on the bike. I don't have a meaningful ride report, but they felt good in the repair stand, and I love the way they look on the bike. http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/6837658411/in/photostream -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[RBW] Re: Intro from new Riv rider

2012-02-07 Thread islaysteve
PBH 100!? My god man, I could do chinups on the top tube! LOL (and yes, I know what kind of comments I'd get if I posted this on Bikesnob. But we're more civilized, no?) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this

[RBW] Polishing update

2012-02-07 Thread William
My Rawland (sacrilege!) sports a used Nitto S-83 seatpost that I got on uber-cheap because it was really badly scratched. I have built up a fair bit of confidence sanding and polishing aluminum parts. I put this part off to the last because it was by far the most scratched. I finally

[RBW] Re: Nuance of the RBW birthday program

2012-02-07 Thread John Bennett
Yep, sorry. We really had to crack down. Customers were transferring the birthday credits not only to their valets, but to their footmen, butlers, porters, grooms, chauffeurs, and scullery maids, as well. Fine for Boxing Day, I suppose, but golly. Cheers, John On Feb 7, 10:47 am, William

Re: [RBW] Re: Nuance of the RBW birthday program

2012-02-07 Thread Seth Vidal
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 5:23 PM, John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, sorry. We really had to crack down. Customers were transferring the birthday credits not only to their valets, but to their footmen, butlers, porters, grooms, chauffeurs, and scullery maids, as well. Fine  for Boxing

[RBW] Re: Need help deciding... Soma San Marcos or Revamp an 84 Trek 610...

2012-02-07 Thread Liesl
This is an interesting question! I have a 50 protobleriot, a 51saluki, and a little '86 Trek 620, plus my partner has a Surly LHT, *and* I grew up in Madison! (I'm just up 94 in Minneapolis now.) I've looked into doing a lot of work on my 620 (similar in many ways to what you've described) and

[RBW] Re: Best barcons ever?

2012-02-07 Thread Greg J
Are those 3ttt morphe bars on your Davidson? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/N68IieTn5ecJ. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Best barcons ever?

2012-02-07 Thread William
Yes, they are 3TTT Morphe. I have those bars on the front of my tandem as well. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/GeAYINRfne4J. To

Re: [RBW] Re: Need help deciding... Soma San Marcos or Revamp an 84 Trek 610...

2012-02-07 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2012-02-07 at 15:51 -0800, Liesl wrote: It seems to me like the amount of work you're wanting to do changes the bike quite a bit so that it's no longer a Wisconsin Vintage Trek '82 610, but something that's morphed into a different bike. Have you ever seen the creatively restored

[RBW] Re: Need help deciding... Soma San Marcos or Revamp an 84 Trek 610...

2012-02-07 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
As an aside related to the poster who mentioned Budget Bikes on Regent in Madison. Anybody who visits Madison should take a gander at this place, as it is the most stupefying spectacle I've seen in cycling. There are actually, I think, four or five Budget Bike locations on Regent within a

Re: [RBW] One for the fire chief - 56 Bombadil on the 'bay

2012-02-07 Thread jimD
This is great! reminded me of this: My brother and I used to take the last chair ride at the end of Saturday skiing at White Pass (Wa.) and then set up our tent, roll out our sleeping bags and pretend we were winter mountaineering. Our parents thought we were nuts but had no problem with out

Re: [RBW] Re: Need help deciding... Soma San Marcos or Revamp an 84 Trek 610...

2012-02-07 Thread Seth Vidal
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: As an aside related to the poster who mentioned Budget Bikes on Regent in Madison. Anybody who visits Madison should take a gander at this place, as it is the most stupefying spectacle I've seen in cycling.

[RBW] Re: Need help deciding... Soma San Marcos or Revamp an 84 Trek 610...

2012-02-07 Thread Will
Jim, It's true that the Budget Bike owner has changed the tenor of the business recently. It used to be a real budget bike store. I bought 3 used bikes there: Trek 620, 610, and 613 from the early 80s. They were all very reasonable. Budget's old business model was about recycling decent

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012

2012-02-07 Thread Montclair BobbyB
The Paddlers Lane Guest House has 3 queen beds, 8 singles, a sofabed and a sofa, so it will (arguably) sleep 12 comfortably, or 13 with one on the sofa. Below is the list of the first 13 responses (Rusty, I'm trying to keep your group together, I'm happy to take the couch)... we can shift people

Re: [RBW] Re: Need help deciding... Soma San Marcos or Revamp an 84 Trek 610...

2012-02-07 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Yes, I agree that the people at BBC are helpful and courteous. It just seemed like selling bikes was not part of the plan. I seem to recall that the JT tandem we looked at had a price tag of $1799 or so, but it wasn't actually for sale. -- You received this message because you are subscribed

[RBW] Re: Need help deciding... Soma San Marcos or Revamp an 84 Trek 610...

2012-02-07 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Yes, I agree that the people at BBC are helpful and courteous. It just seemed like selling bikes was not part of the plan. I seem to recall that the JT tandem we looked at had a price tag of $1799 or so, but it wasn't actually for sale. -- You received this message because you are subscribed

[RBW] Re: Need help deciding... Soma San Marcos or Revamp an 84 Trek 610...

2012-02-07 Thread Seth
Hi, As an owner of a Sam Hil. And a 82' Trek 613, I'd recommend the San Marco, primarily because the Trek will run a maximum tire size of 28mm with fenders (700c conversion). Further, the Riv has a very nice feel that is quite distinct from the Trek, more stability, better down hill handling.

[RBW] Re: Need help deciding... Soma San Marcos or Revamp an 84 Trek 610...

2012-02-07 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I have had a table at the chronometro swap since 2006, but decided to skip it this year. Maybe because I'm not local, I always felt it was difficult convincing people there that I wasn't trying to scam them. And there were a lot of gawkers who pawed through my stuff and offered lots of

[RBW] Re: One for the fire chief - 56 Bombadil on the 'bay

2012-02-07 Thread Aaron Thomas
William, What a wonderful and uplifting video! I don't even have kids, but it makes me want to have some so I can take them on an outing like yours. Aaron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web

[RBW] Bicycle garage sale

2012-02-07 Thread Gino Zahnd
Hey RBW'ers, I'm having a local-to-SF bicycle garage sale. Lots of Riv-ish type stuff, some modern Campy, Crank Bros., Salsa, PAUL, Cane Creek stuff, several lots of women's jerseys and bibs. The list of items and prices are here: http://bit.ly/zfUFSW The corresponding photos are here:

[RBW] Re: Atlantis vs. Sam

2012-02-07 Thread C REINO
I own a Rivendell custom (one of the first from 1995), a quickbeam, Sam Hillborne, and as of last summer, an Atlantis (I also have an X01). If I had to choose just on bike, it would be the atlantis, without a question. It rides great loaded (better than my Sam). It is so versatile, depending on

[RBW] Re: Need help deciding... Soma San Marcos or Revamp an 84 Trek 610...

2012-02-07 Thread Frank Brose
Between Will and Ryan It's pretty well spelled out. I'd take their advice. Not to mention the fact Will lives in MadTown. On Feb 7, 2:22 pm, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: I like buying new bikes as much as the next guy but I'd just build up the Trek without all the mods.  Use it for your

[RBW] Re: Need help deciding... Soma San Marcos or Revamp an 84 Trek 610...

2012-02-07 Thread trek610
Thanks Will - maybe I will see you on the cap city trail at some point. The Canti breaks not working on the fork was something I had not considered. I understand the 531CS is somewhat lighter than regular 531 so you may be right. Although there are many bikes with 531 Canti brakes... I

[RBW] Re: Need help deciding... Soma San Marcos or Revamp an 84 Trek 610...

2012-02-07 Thread trek610
Thanks Liesl! Same to you - if you are in my area let me know and we can talk bike. I love to talk saddle bags, racks and such for smaller bikes. I hear you on all the mods on this thing, I hope it does not morph it into an abomination. I am luck I have a frame builder here (Banjo bicycles)

Re: [RBW] Re: Need help deciding... Soma San Marcos or Revamp an 84 Trek 610...

2012-02-07 Thread trek610
No I will have to check that out - I am assuming they turned out nice? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/mL_jzaI-oVUJ. To post to this

[RBW] Re: Need help deciding... Soma San Marcos or Revamp an 84 Trek 610...

2012-02-07 Thread trek610
I mostly agree with your comments - I am friends with the manager who runs the store. The sad thing is there is another warehouse behind the showroom that is stocked with more bikes. I am not sure the owner really knows what he has. There are no deals there to be sure. Everything is really

[RBW] Re: Need help deciding... Soma San Marcos or Revamp an 84 Trek 610...

2012-02-07 Thread Mike S
I was in a similar scenario two years ago, though I was way too broke to get the Sam Hillborne frame of my dreams and chose to parlay my bike budget into a 1986 Trek 520 frame. The frame was traded with a friend for a (nice, but too small) 80's Raleigh Grand Prix I bought for $150 on Ebay, and it

[RBW] Re: Need help deciding... Soma San Marcos or Revamp an 84 Trek 610...

2012-02-07 Thread Mike S
Worth emphasizing a huge factor is the clearances. My Trek 520 could (barely) take 32's and then had to do a split fender workaround. Now I'm gonna rock fat happy 40's with ultranormal fendering on the Sam. On Feb 8, 1:57 am, Mike S mikeshalj...@gmail.com wrote: I was in a similar scenario two

[RBW] Riv Rally midwest

2012-02-07 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I wrote down my loose plan for the Midwest Riv Rally. I'm not much for micromanaging herds of cats or groups of cyclists. My general approach to larger group rides is that it's an semi-cohesive association of self-responsible individuals. If you have to come or go at a different time or you