[RBW] Specialized saddles

2012-03-08 Thread robert zeidler
Over the past few months I have tried these saddles (mostly Avatars in 143 and 155 widths),andcan only say.Wow! These saddles are so supremely comfortable that w/ a couple of exceptions for nicely broken Brooks, I will switch, over time, the entire fleet over to them. Yesterday I went a bit

[RBW] Rare Sighting in the'bay area

2012-03-08 Thread Marty
Something about these early All Rounders that floats my boat in any bay. Good thing it's not my size, but it's one of those Rivs I would like to have around just to look at. If someone here picks it up, we need more pics! *http://tinyurl.com/784glag* -- You received this message because you

[RBW] Re: Don't read if you don't like heresy (a.k.a. my new road bike which isn't a Rivendell)

2012-03-08 Thread Mike
William, congrats on the new bike. Yeah, those frames look great. Unfortunately, or maybe fortunately, I'm in-between sizes otherwise I might be considering one of their frames to take the spot vacated by the sale of my Quickbeam. They seem to be designed well. Looks like right now you can get

[RBW] Re: Specialized saddles

2012-03-08 Thread Mike
Thanks for the heads up about these saddles. I've had thoughts of venturing away from Brooks for one of my bikes (Cross Check). For now it's got a Flite on it which I like. I'm most likely gonna give the WTB Pure V a try, I have a friend using this saddle on his rando bike and likes it. I also

[RBW] Re: Any truly appealing panniers I'm missing?

2012-03-08 Thread johnb
+4 on the Swift bags. I have the canvas roll-tops and they rule. On Tuesday, March 6, 2012 6:01:03 PM UTC-5, Scot Brooks wrote: I'm really close to pulling the trigger on some Ironweed panniers which seem to be incredible bang-for-the-buck. I've also considered the Sackville and Ostrich

[RBW] Re: Any truly appealing panniers I'm missing?

2012-03-08 Thread johnb
Swift also has a great bag for large front racks. On Wednesday, March 7, 2012 11:03:41 PM UTC-5, Mike On A Bike wrote: hmm now the Swifts are really tempting... A 25X13X6 roll-top pannier with backpack conversion would have the same capacity as my Rivendell Mountain Works Mariposa

[RBW] Re: Specialized saddles

2012-03-08 Thread Peter Pesce
Thanks for the tip on the Specialized - good to know. I have cheap, 20 year old Specialized saddle on my beater bike that is still going strong. And +1 for WTB, too. I have a WTB Pure V Pro that I like quite a bit. For some reason I just can't get Brookses to work for me. On Thursday, March 8,

[RBW] Re: Any truly appealing panniers I'm missing?

2012-03-08 Thread Adam
I was very impressed by the quality and appearance of the panniers made by philosophy bags as the NAHBS. They seemed to be one of the hits of the weekend for many. Best, Adam On Mar 6, 3:01 pm, Scot Brooks scothinck...@gmail.com wrote: I'm really close to pulling the trigger on some Ironweed

[RBW] Re: Specialized saddles

2012-03-08 Thread Anne
WTB Pure V Pro here as well. Comfortable and works well. Tried the S- Works but came back the Pure V. Also seem to get along with the Aliante and ProLogo Scratch in the wider width. It's all so individual. On Mar 8, 10:01 am, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the tip on the

[RBW] Re: Specialized saddles

2012-03-08 Thread Bill M.
I use a Specialized Alias on my go-fast. Not cushy comfortable, but it stays out of the way and doesn't give me any pain or numbness. There's a new leather saddle just coming to market under the name Rivet. They debuted at NAHBS and apparently they sold most of what they brought. Two widths,

[RBW] Re: Any truly appealing panniers I'm missing?

2012-03-08 Thread Bill M.
I saw that MAP with Loyal bags at NAHBS, very pretty indeed. Bill On Mar 7, 12:28 pm, David Yu Greenblatt david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote: I find these Loyal Designs panniers to be truly appealing:http://www.flickr.com/photos/mapcycles/6939511529/in/photostream -- David G, Madison WI

[RBW] Re: Specialized saddles

2012-03-08 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Thank you, Specialized... My diabolical plan is working Phase 1 (create new demand): complete... Phase 2: flood the market with used Brooks saddles, thereby causing worldwide prices to plummet Phase 3: Start buying up unwanted inventory... and convert every barstool in my underground lair to

[RBW] Re: Specialized saddles

2012-03-08 Thread pb
Specialized Toupe Gel -- Firm, does not feel comfortable, but never feels uncomfortable. The gel is very thin, not mooshy. Great saddle for long miles. Not very rivvish, for those who care. Then there's Specialized clothing. Their soft goods are absolutely excellent. Not very rivvish, for

[RBW] Re: Specialized saddles

2012-03-08 Thread Peter Pesce
While we're giving Specialized some love, and the tweed police (cue Cheap Trick song) seem to be on a donut break... I have pair of Specialized Touring shoes that are comfortable, easy to walk in, and among the more graphically-understated options out there for SPD shoes:

Re: [RBW] Re: Specialized saddles

2012-03-08 Thread Seth Vidal
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote: and the tweed police (cue Cheap Trick song) seem to be on a donut break... Why is that comment necessary? How does that help the conversation? Your only goal is to mock and/or embarrass others. I do not appreciate it and I

Re: [RBW] Re: Specialized saddles

2012-03-08 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Now now, let's not get all earnest. It's great fun to poke fun at both sides. After all, it's just cycling, and there are few things and people in this world that won't benefit from a few sniggers, I included. Patrick ok, so bring it on Moore who (grimly yanking this thread back on topic, Likes

Re: [RBW] Re: Specialized saddles

2012-03-08 Thread Peter Pesce
Apologies. I did not intend to mock or embarrass anyone. On Thursday, March 8, 2012 11:34:59 AM UTC-5, Seth Vidal wrote: On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote: and the tweed police (cue Cheap Trick song) seem to be on a donut break... Why is that comment

Re: [RBW] Re: Specialized saddles

2012-03-08 Thread Andrew
*Tweed Police* - that's funny, especially when tied into the Green Police satire ad (Audi TDI, with Cheap Trick backup) that ran in the 2011 Super Bowl, the very best ad that played that day. After all, if you can't poke fun at yourself, or tolerate a bit of fun being poked at you, then what's the

Re: [RBW] Re: Specialized saddles

2012-03-08 Thread Peter Pesce
Offensive post deleted. On Thursday, March 8, 2012 11:47:43 AM UTC-5, Peter Pesce wrote: Apologies. I did not intend to mock or embarrass anyone. On Thursday, March 8, 2012 11:34:59 AM UTC-5, Seth Vidal wrote: On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote: and the

RE: [RBW] Re: Specialized saddles

2012-03-08 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Grammatical mocking for Patrick: ...me included. We expect so much more from a Latin scholar! -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of PATRICK MOORE Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 11:46 AM To:

Re: [RBW] Re: Specialized saddles

2012-03-08 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Sheeit, there goes my intellectual reputation. But after some quick grammatical analysis, I think you are right. Mea culpa lapsa mearum. Or something like that. Patrick Ver-oay nd-ay ut-oay Moore On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote:

[RBW] Re: Don't read if you don't like heresy (a.k.a. my new road bike which isn't a Rivendell)

2012-03-08 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
Oh, you sold the QB. Just not putting enough miles on it? Now what will I borrow this summer??? :-) As for the BMC bikes, I wish they were built in 2cm increments. I'm slightly between sizes, too. Yeah I know, what's the big deal w/ 1cm, right, but I'm a fussy one... On Thursday, March 8,

[RBW] Re: Rare Sighting in the'bay area

2012-03-08 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
A very unusual sloping top tube on it. I've never seen that on a Rivendell other than the newer Sams/Bombas/Hunqs. Depending on the tire clearance, that would make an AWESOME drop-bar MTB!!! I wonder who built it. Pic of the BB is craptastic, so can't make out if anything else is on it other

[RBW] Re: Don't read if you don't like heresy (a.k.a. my new road bike which isn't a Rivendell)

2012-03-08 Thread William
FWIW, if Mike had handed me these bikes, and told me to resell them, I would call my '59' a 58. It is 58cm from the center of the bottom bracket to the top of the top tube along the seat tube. My '59' measures 59cm from the center of the bottom bracket to the tippy top of the seat tube along

[RBW] Re: Specialized saddles

2012-03-08 Thread William
My buddy perma-loaned me the cheap version of Avatar. It's in my parts box. I'll give it a go. It's daunting facing the fact that I need to establish a 'go-to' contemporary saddle. Since so many of the nice ones are $200 (and up) it's intimidating. On Thursday, March 8, 2012 2:33:04 AM

[RBW] Re: Any truly appealing panniers I'm missing?

2012-03-08 Thread William
But Phil doesn't have panniers listed on his Loyal-site. Interesting. Maybe email him and luck yourself into a discounted prototype! On Thursday, March 8, 2012 8:09:42 AM UTC-8, Bill M. wrote: I saw that MAP with Loyal bags at NAHBS, very pretty indeed. Bill On Mar 7, 12:28 pm, David

[RBW] Any truly appealing panniers I'm missing?

2012-03-08 Thread Harry H
+5 for Swift Industries. They let you pic fabric, grosgrain, and thread color. I'm ordering a Brompton bag from them. They make great stuff. Also the bags made by Philosophy are excellent. I met Troy the owner of Philosophy Bags at NAHBS and spoke to him for awhile about his bags. The bags

[RBW] Re: Any truly appealing panniers I'm missing?

2012-03-08 Thread William
Crap, one could easily spend $5000 on a pile of panniers, and that pile would have zero repeats and zero bad choices. And my wife wonders why I have so many bags! On Thursday, March 8, 2012 10:31:03 AM UTC-8, Harry H wrote: +5 for Swift Industries. They let you pic fabric, grosgrain, and

[RBW] Re: FS: Nigel Smythe Green Tweed Bags, Nitto TD Stem, Tektro Oryx Brakes

2012-03-08 Thread David Yu Greenblatt
Some stuff sold, other nice stuff added, more soon... Photos descriptions: http://flic.kr/s/aHsjyZpfpx Thanks, David G, Madison WI On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 7:07 PM, David Yu Greenblatt david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote: For Sale: Rivendell Nigel Smythe Green Tweed Seat Pouch, like new

Re: [RBW] Not a Riv, but a distant cousin

2012-03-08 Thread Sean Whelan
Great Restoration! Cheers! Sean --- On Tue, 3/6/12, Scot Brooks scothinck...@gmail.com wrote: From: Scot Brooks scothinck...@gmail.com Subject: [RBW] Not a Riv, but a distant cousin To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 6, 2012, 3:25 PM Resurrected Bridgestone XO-4 (imgur

[RBW] Re: Not a Riv, but a distant cousin

2012-03-08 Thread Ryan Ray
What a great build. Nice work. On Tuesday, March 6, 2012 12:25:13 PM UTC-8, Scot Brooks wrote: Resurrected Bridgestone XO-4 (imgur album) http://imgur.com/a/2EohP#0 Thought you guys might get a kick out of this. I'm tempted to post some photos of my Sam, but this project has been at the

[RBW] Re: Don't read if you don't like heresy (a.k.a. my new road bike which isn't a Rivendell)

2012-03-08 Thread Philip Williamson
I measure bikes to the top of the top tube at the seat tube junction, too. Not to the top of the seat tube collar. That's definitely good to know about the BMC bikes. Philip On Mar 8, 1:12 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: FWIW, if Mike had handed me these bikes, and told me to resell

[RBW] Hillborne sighting in Clarendon (No. VA.)- whose?

2012-03-08 Thread Joan Oppel
Uncommon sighting - I don't know why but there aren't that many of us riding around Northern Virginia on Rivendells, though more than I thought showed up a few weeks ago in response to the 'survey' question. This was an orange Hillborne parked outside the new Trader Joe's, using 2 (!) ulocks to

[RBW] Book tour?

2012-03-08 Thread Brian Hanson
I just heard there may be a book tour happening for you-know-who... At least in the Pac NW. Keep your ears open... Brian Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Book tour?

2012-03-08 Thread Rob
Coolio! That would be super neat. I've never met you-know-who in person. Rob in Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit

Re: [RBW] Re: Book tour?

2012-03-08 Thread Robert F. Harrison
Of course it'll probably take he who isn't being named out of Walnut Creek exactly when I due in. ;-) I can't remember why he wasn't around last time I visited but there you have it! Aloha, Bob in Hawaii (but heading east at the end of April for a visit). On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Rob

[RBW] Re: Don't read if you don't like heresy (a.k.a. my new road bike which isn't a Rivendell)

2012-03-08 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
The lack of consistency in frame measurement really bugs me. I wish the industry would stick to one way (center to center preferred) and be done with it. Posting the actual as well as theoretical is even better. I know, I know, I said consistency and bicycle in the same rant, sorry... On

[RBW] Re: Don't read if you don't like heresy (a.k.a. my new road bike which isn't a Rivendell)

2012-03-08 Thread William
size is in the eye of the beholder. Folks don't rant that a Medium at Banana Republic and a Medium at Old Navy fit differently (OK, perhaps they do). Seriously though, Grant will tell you it all comes down to getting your three contact spots in the right places. Feet, tuckus, hands. Where

Re: [RBW] Re: Book tour?

2012-03-08 Thread Brian Hanson
sometime around May - 2nd week ish... On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Robert F. Harrison rfharri...@gmail.comwrote: Of course it'll probably take he who isn't being named out of Walnut Creek exactly when I due in. ;-) I can't remember why he wasn't around last time I visited but there you

[RBW] Downhill video

2012-03-08 Thread MSmith
This is not new news, but I recently re-discovered this video. Unbelievable skills, nerves of steel, and way bigger cojones anyone I know. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIe6hYAdw_I Check out the dog that wanders onto the course... Mike in balmy So. Boston, Mass -- You received this message

Re: [RBW] Downhill video

2012-03-08 Thread David Yu Greenblatt
Perfect course for a Rosco Bubbe - David G, Madison WI On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 6:04 PM, MSmith bee...@gmail.com wrote: This is not new news, but I recently re-discovered this video. Unbelievable skills, nerves of steel, and way bigger cojones anyone I know.

[RBW] Re: Downhill video

2012-03-08 Thread William
and he's wearing a suit. I would have crashed 30,000 times on that run. On Thursday, March 8, 2012 4:04:28 PM UTC-8, M D Smith wrote: This is not new news, but I recently re-discovered this video. Unbelievable skills, nerves of steel, and way bigger cojones anyone I know.

[RBW] Re: Downhill video

2012-03-08 Thread William
he says voy al matrimonio at the end. I'm going to a wedding On Thursday, March 8, 2012 4:35:59 PM UTC-8, William wrote: and he's wearing a suit. I would have crashed 30,000 times on that run. On Thursday, March 8, 2012 4:04:28 PM UTC-8, M D Smith wrote: This is not new news, but I

[RBW] Re: Book tour?

2012-03-08 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Tentatively planning for May 31 in Minneapolis, dovetailing into the June 1-3 Midwest RBW Owners Rally. On Thursday, March 8, 2012 4:20:02 PM UTC-6, stonehog wrote: I just heard there may be a book tour happening for you-know-who... At least in the Pac NW. Keep your ears open... Brian

[RBW] FS: Bridgestone X0-3 55cm

2012-03-08 Thread jinxed
I had this for sale previously and it was grabbed up...then the deal fell through...then it was really close to Christmas...so I begged my in-laws to keep it in storage for me till later in the year. (I'm having some theft/safety issues with one of the neighbors I share garage space with. I

[RBW] Re: Downhill video

2012-03-08 Thread Bill M.
Grant wrote an editorial about this video last year. Bill On Mar 8, 4:04 pm, MSmith bee...@gmail.com wrote: This is not new news, but I recently re-discovered this video. Unbelievable skills, nerves of steel, and way bigger cojones anyone I know. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIe6hYAdw_I

[RBW] Re: FS: Bridgestone X0-3 55cm

2012-03-08 Thread William
I dont think your photos do the color justice. It's not that dark in real life, at least not in my mind. It's a really nice metallic burgundyish brownish color. If it was a 55 instead of a 52, I'd be tempted. On Thursday, March 8, 2012 4:50:50 PM UTC-8, jinxed wrote: I had this for sale

[RBW] Re: FS: Bridgestone X0-3 55cm

2012-03-08 Thread William
Or maybe it's my monitor darking things up. My point is it's a great bike and a great looking bike. On Thursday, March 8, 2012 5:02:15 PM UTC-8, William wrote: I dont think your photos do the color justice. It's not that dark in real life, at least not in my mind. It's a really nice

[RBW] Re: Don't read if you don't like heresy (a.k.a. my new road bike which isn't a Rivendell)

2012-03-08 Thread Bill M.
Sticking to c-c or c-t seat tube measurement only works in a level top tube world. Reach and Stack are probably better measurements to use than seat tube and top tube. Bill On Mar 8, 2:58 pm, cyclotour...@gmail.com cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: The lack of consistency in frame measurement

[RBW] FS: Grip King Pedals

2012-03-08 Thread Johnny Alien
I have a pair of Grip King pedals. Used lightly and in good shape. They are missing the reflectors. $30 shipped. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit

[RBW] Re: FS: Grip King Pedals

2012-03-08 Thread Johnny Alien
Email is johnnyalien at verizon.net On Thursday, March 8, 2012 8:22:30 PM UTC-5, Johnny Alien wrote: I have a pair of Grip King pedals. Used lightly and in good shape. They are missing the reflectors. $30 shipped. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[RBW] Re: Book tour?

2012-03-08 Thread Amit Singh
HE WHO CANNOT BE NAMED ! If his name is as much as mentioned he will apperate ... for a book reading/signing! On Mar 8, 7:45 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: Tentatively planning for May 31 in Minneapolis, dovetailing into the June 1-3 Midwest RBW Owners Rally.

Re: [RBW] Re: Book tour?

2012-03-08 Thread Andrew
Well, I'll grant you that much... On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Amit Singh asd...@gmail.com wrote: HE WHO CANNOT BE NAMED ! If his name is as much as mentioned he will apperate ... for a book reading/signing! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [RBW] Re: Don't read if you don't like heresy (a.k.a. my new road bike which isn't a Rivendell)

2012-03-08 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2012-03-08 at 17:10 -0800, Bill M. wrote: Sticking to c-c or c-t seat tube measurement only works in a level top tube world. Reach and Stack are probably better measurements to use than seat tube and top tube. What are reach and stack? -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Book tour and Midwest RBW Rally update

2012-03-08 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I spoke today with someone from Grant's book publisher about the upcoming book tour. We've scheduled the evening of May 31 to have Grant at HC for a book-signing session. This kicks off the Midwest RBW Rally, which begins formally on June 1. More info here:

Re: [RBW] Book tour and Midwest RBW Rally update

2012-03-08 Thread James Warren
Are you kidding me? Talk about the stars aligning. You lucky midwesterners. On Mar 8, 2012, at 5:57 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: I spoke today with someone from Grant's book publisher about the upcoming book tour. We've scheduled the evening of May 31 to have Grant at HC for a

Re: [RBW] Book tour and Midwest RBW Rally update

2012-03-08 Thread cyclotourist
That's pretty sweet! On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 6:22 PM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.netwrote: Are you kidding me? Talk about the stars aligning. You lucky midwesterners. On Mar 8, 2012, at 5:57 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: I spoke today with someone from Grant's book

Re: [RBW] Book tour and Midwest RBW Rally update

2012-03-08 Thread John Blish
I like this a lot and look forward to being there. We all know Grant has another connection to St Paul as well. Maybe that factors in to having him come here in late May. In any case, nifty, I say. -jb On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [RBW] Book tour and Midwest RBW Rally update

2012-03-08 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Not really stars aligning. First they selected an earlier date. I called back and asked if it could be on May 31 to make it work with the rally. The woman I talked to said no problem. I suppose GP might have something to say about it, and plans frequently change for external reasons, but that's

Re: [RBW] Re: Don't read if you don't like heresy (a.k.a. my new road bike which isn't a Rivendell)

2012-03-08 Thread William
http://www.slowtwitch.com/mainheadings/techctr/stack.html stack = height of top of the headtube above the center of the BB Reach = horizontal distance between the center of the BB and the center of the headtube at the top On Thursday, March 8, 2012 5:56:37 PM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote: On

[RBW] Re: Don't read if you don't like heresy (a.k.a. my new road bike which isn't a Rivendell)

2012-03-08 Thread Mike
On Mar 8, 9:01 am, cyclotour...@gmail.com cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, you sold the QB. Just not putting enough miles on it? Now what will I borrow this summer??? :-) Don't worry, I've got you covered. I still have my LHT, Hilsen, CC and Bryant randonneur. As for measuring bikes, I wish

[RBW] Re: Don't read if you don't like heresy (a.k.a. my new road bike which isn't a Rivendell)

2012-03-08 Thread Philip Williamson
Fantastic service. Wow. And here's an illustration of how the frame can float between your contact points. Based on frame angles, bikes with the same tube lengths can fit very differently, and bikes with very different tube lengths can fit the same. The bizarro-world of non-intuitive