Don't forget that the US currency has devalued significantly during the
last 8 years, which makes the saddles seem more expensive to import, but in
the UK the prices might not have changed to that degree. Compare the price
changes of the Japanese products over the last 8 years and you'll see
When I first opened Hiawatha Cyclery in 2005-06, my wholesale price on a
standard B17 was $33 and retail prices were $75+. At that time, Brooks was
being acquired by a new owner. That new owner, from my perspective, picked up
on the fact that Brooks had become a boutique brand (partly thanks to
In our stable, we have one VO equivalent of the B67, and a Cardiff
B17 equivalent. (I think they are made by the same company) These are
both very nice saddles, the =B67 is on my wife's former road, now town,
bike, and has had a fair number of miles put on it. Leather is a little
lighter
Everything goes up in price, and in the case of Brooks, there are more
reasons than just the passing of time. As Joe B. noted, the weak dollar
is one. Another--some of you may remember when Brooks went bankrupt about
-- I'm not going to look it up but it was about 8-9 years ago. Panic
On Nov 23, 2012, at 9:21 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com
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When I first opened Hiawatha Cyclery in 2005-06, my wholesale price on a
standard B17 was $33 and retail prices were $75+. At that time, Brooks was
being acquired by a new owner. That new owner, from my
I have decided to sell my 55cm AHH . Riv made a small run of 55cm AHHs
that use 700c wheels.
Here is the geometry
TT length is 55.5cm.
SO height 80cm
ST is 55cm (c-t)
Head Angle 72
Seat Angle 72
Fork Rake 52
CS Length 45
BB Drop 8.0
Frame and fork are in good shape no dents etc. Paint is good
It's a pretty minor thing, but I made a rubber
mudflaphttp://www.flickr.com/photos/56856126@N02/8211901544/in/set-72157632083263846/.
The local hardware store sold sheets big enough for 3 of these as rubber
gasket material in the plumbing department.
Roger
On Thursday, November 22, 2012
B17s are $99 on Amazon with free shipping. Selle Anatomica is having a
$99 sale until the end of 2012.
Jay
1On Nov 23, 6:40 pm, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote:
On Nov 23, 2012, at 9:21 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
thill@gmail.com wrote:
When I first opened Hiawatha
I am just not sure how much saddles that are comfortable, look good, and
are quality made should sell for, but 145 isn't terrible. I buy the
Brooks Special (or whatever the copper railed, hammered rivet B17 is
called) and I love them. They last; the leather is thick; they look good;
and most
I cannot find it on the web site. Where is it? Jim D.
Massachusetts
On Wednesday, November 21, 2012 11:10:20 PM UTC-5, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
Someone needs to jump on this one... A 56cm S1 on sale at Riv...
This is a deal...
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Jim and Robert--thanks for the compliments!
Roger, I'm really liking the mudflap that you created. The color looks good
too...matches the saddle and frame color well.
On Friday, November 23, 2012 11:15:54 AM UTC-8, Roger wrote:
It's a pretty minor thing, but I made a rubber
Probably soldI was going to call them up on Monday to see about
purchasing it with a custom color. Oh well.
On Friday, November 23, 2012 12:39:54 PM UTC-8, Jim wrote:
I cannot find it on the web site. Where is it? Jim D.
Massachusetts
On Wednesday, November 21, 2012
So after flirting with Dans 55cm Hilsen I decided to go in another direction
and secured a VO polyvalent, low trail intrigues me so I will alternate between
my Hillborne and the Polyvalent as a commuter for the next year, depending on
the results I will sell both and upgrade to either a boxdog
If I ever put my Bleriot up for sale and say it's never been ridden in
the rain or crashed then you can call me a lying piece of @#%*! As
Mannys sayspics to prove it.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/77502424@N00/8210648640/
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Christopher,
I ride (on one of my bikes anyway) a wide, sprung VO leather saddle that
has been extremely comfortable. It's a sort of B66/67 pattern and has been
on my cargo bike for about 2 years and had quite a lot of use. I'm very
pleased with it. VO make 3 or 4 models in different widths. I
Awesome build. Makes odd, perfect sense to me.
On Wednesday, November 21, 2012 2:47:01 PM UTC-8, Michael Rivers wrote:
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Bike is fine...pretty soft landingminor scratches on the top of my
foot but all's well. Heading out again off into the dreary mist.
On Nov 23, 2:15 pm, Eric Platt epericmpl...@gmail.com wrote:
Rob,
We could be rude and say forget about photos of you - is the bike okay?
But glad to know
I don't think Brooks are overpriced if they are comfortable for you and are
what you need. On one of my bikes, am again trying a B-17. For the past
year or so, have not been able to ride comfortably on a Brooks. Seems the
rear cantle seems to be, um, rubbing me the wrong way. To say it nicely.
Is your butt worth it ? Mine is.
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I really like the Brooks that are on my bikes- both B17s, one of'em special and
one standard. It just seems like the prices went up quite a bit and am not sure
that I would buy another without trying some alternatives. I don't think the
exchange played much of a role here- but I'd have to go
I was the original owner who sent it back and got a quick replacement (awesome
service) I was tempted to purchase again to resolve the is my Simpleone best
as a roadie or as a commuter? question that racks my brain weekly, having two
would have allowed me to have two different set ups and
We were at a riding trailhead a couple of weeks ago, two women were
comparing saddles and diapers and one was admitting she was going to spend
more money to try a different saddle. I showed them my daughter's B68S,
which has led to nothing but laud from my daughter, a and complete dearth
of
Tony, Do you use a standard sewing machine or a heavy-duty one? I've made a
few (non-bike) items with cordura and other heavier fabrics but with mixed
results. I'm not sure how well my portable would handle proper canvas.
Cheers, Steve
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thought this one looked like an earlier A/R - match-built maybe but not
early Waterford
. To Mr. Moore...compared to X0-1's (1993 52cm X0-1 vs 1997 54cm A/R with
Brooks and Moustaches and fat 26 Paselas ) , the Riv has a more refined
ride. I like them both very much...the A/R is obviously
The sense of value has nothing to do but with the one doing the valuing :)
Considering these saddles last a long time and are a one time investment,
reach your own conclusion. You can pay now ... or pay more at another now
!
I wish I could ride a leather saddle .. but I am one who cannot...
I haven't been able to get comfortable on a Brooks, but if I found them
comfortable, I'd pay up.
I will second the opinion that a comfortable saddle requires no padded
shorts -- so you save the cost of at least 2 pairs, making the equation
much less startling.
I do regret the chi chi,
Me, I don't get it.
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 5:17 PM, sameness samen...@gmail.com wrote:
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Today I have seen the price for a new B17 standard in black vary among
reputable online venders for as much as *$50 US dollars*.
The questions are:
1. How much is the saddle worth to you?
2. How much customer loyalty, in this economy, are you able/willing to
extend, if your
I'll add an anecdotal story…
A couple of years back, I rode a long distance ride from SF to Ok City with an
Aussie and a Brit (no, this is not a bad bar joke). Both of those fellows were
riding on expensive plastic gel saddles, me a moderately priced Brooks B17 on
my
Atlantis. It was a 6
RBW is to be congratulated for closing the entire weekend. With all the
shopping madness, including even yesterday from what I hear, it's great to
see someone close up give their employees a true long weekend. As more
and more holidays are driven into frantic shopping days, it's refreshing
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I am in the midst of adjusting a donated cruiser bike for a newly licensed but
still unemployed nurse. I swapped out the hbars for some decent Walds but while
removing the ineffably stupid, cheap, and generally shitty combo
twist-shift-cum-brake levers from the old bar, I managed to lose a
Patrick, I've never come across an integrated brake lever/grip
shifter. Are you sure they're one piece? If SRAM, do you know if it's
an ESP (i.e. long-pull) or Shimano-compatibile rear derailer? I
might have some Shimano 7-speed grip shifters around.
Best,
joe broach
portland, or
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No you don't. Resist the Apple hegemony!
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Shimano nexus is a grip shift and brake lever in one, and yes, it sucks.
On Nov 23, 2012 10:01 PM, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.com wrote:
Patrick, I've never come across an integrated brake lever/grip
shifter. Are you sure they're one piece? If SRAM, do you know if it's
an ESP (i.e. long-pull)
Rather, they make a setup like that, luckily not all of them are such.
On Nov 23, 2012 11:18 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote:
Shimano nexus is a grip shift and brake lever in one, and yes, it sucks.
On Nov 23, 2012 10:01 PM, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.com wrote:
Patrick, I've
Awesome! (and I'm an Apple fan.)
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No you don't. Resist the Apple hegemony!
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Ah, you're right. I forgot about Shimano's twisters. -Joe
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