Re: [RBW] Re: Budget Riv? Still on the horizon?

2013-02-23 Thread IanA
+1 - It would be great to see a budget Atlantis/Allrounder. But in a way, Surly have that covered with the LHT and it has choice of the mainstream 26 or 700 wheel sizes. The 26 LHT in the larger sizes looks fabulous built up (and could be built around 650b conceivably). Surly have such a

Re: [RBW] New look on Quickbeam - Gripsters and TrunkSacks

2013-02-23 Thread Robert Zeidler
I don't know how you can stand living there :-) Sent from my iPad On Feb 22, 2013, at 5:05 PM, Robert F. Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com wrote: It's been raining hard today here in Honolulu with flash flood warnings and everything. Of course I was out in it on my Hunqapillar getting soaked as

Re: [RBW] Re: Budget Riv? Still on the horizon?

2013-02-23 Thread Garth
On Friday, February 22, 2013 2:15:54 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: The problem with budget Rivs is that they tend to evolve quickly in the fancy direction, and the budget-ness fades quickly. The Hunq was supposed to be the budget model a couple years back. Now it's $2k.

[RBW] Re: new photos of Sam sporting center pull brakes

2013-02-23 Thread Ron Mc
quite simply, there ain't nothing past lockup. I've been on my Weinmann center pulls for 38 years in the TX hills, and my Rigida rims against them for 35. While I have a spare wheelset, I don't have to - the original rims are in great shape. With kool stop pads, I can lock them up, but it

[RBW] Re: new photos of Sam sporting center pull brakes

2013-02-23 Thread Will
I notice Grant's Atlantis on the staff bike page has V-brakes. I'm not surprised. I run XTs on my trail bike. They are way nicer than the sidepulls on my other bikes. Will On Saturday, February 23, 2013 7:56:08 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote: quite simply, there ain't nothing past lockup. I've

Re: [RBW] Re: Budget Riv? Still on the horizon?

2013-02-23 Thread Bruce Herbitter
Materials, labor and transportation costs plus the profit margin added equals the price you pay. Rivs like the Romulus were killer deals but for one reason or another, could not be maintained. Rivs have good paint jobs and you could shave money there by doing something skimpy. Rivs use good

Re: [RBW] Re: Budget Riv? Still on the horizon?

2013-02-23 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sat, 2013-02-23 at 08:52 -0600, Bruce Herbitter wrote: Materials, labor and transportation costs plus the profit margin added equals the price you pay. Rivs like the Romulus were killer deals but for one reason or another, could not be maintained. Rivs have good paint jobs and you could

[RBW] Re: LOST Robert! Smallest Wood Sasquatch !

2013-02-23 Thread C.J. Filip
Hope you find him. Your insert panda shots just won't be the same. On Feb 22, 5:14 pm, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Manny: In think the forces of nature are at work here, and Robert has returned to live in the mountains. dougP On Thursday, February 21, 2013 10:16:57 PM UTC-8,

[RBW] Re: new photos of Sam sporting center pull brakes

2013-02-23 Thread Peter Pesce
I don't find the difference in stopping power, only lever feel. The long tektros result on more squish at the lever for me, even though the centerpulls technically have more parts and joints to impart play. I've never had a bike not stop due to brake system choice. But I dont ride in technical

Re: [RBW] Re: Budget Riv? Still on the horizon?

2013-02-23 Thread William
James Warren wrote: I know my bro-in-law would buy such a bike if the available size was as large as 64 cm with 6 degree top tube. He couldn't do the $3000 that the Bombadil got to, and the 64 cm Sam didn't have the dirt tire capability he was after. James, you should point your brother in

[RBW] Re: Budget Riv? Still on the horizon?

2013-02-23 Thread Mike Schiller
It wouldn't make sense to make any Riv that doesn't have lugs or a nice paint job,although a single color paint is probably OK with most. The 1st Sam's were single color except a few accents on the fork crown. There are some shops that do pretty good job powder coating lugged bikes. That could

Re: [RBW] Re: Budget Riv? Still on the horizon?

2013-02-23 Thread cyclotourist
Armchair CEO time. Where does the SOMA San Marcos come into the discussion? It's lugged, presumably good tubes and quality paint. Costs around ~$800 on the street, $949 MSRP. There's your budget Riv for road/country folk. If that bike can retail for $800, a fat-tired version could be too. I think

[RBW] FS: Brooks Swallow

2013-02-23 Thread Pondero
Brooks Swallow for sale. Chrome rails, honey color, excellent condition, $115 shipped CONUS. Although it is lighter and more elegantly styled, and it actually works fairly well for me, I decided I prefer the feel of the B17 shape. Photos here...

[RBW] Re: Budget Riv? Still on the horizon?

2013-02-23 Thread allenmichael
Maybe Riv will save money by building the bike out of cardboard. This guy says that he can make a cardboard bike for $9 to $12. http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2012/11/cardboard-bicycles On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 8:58:02 AM UTC-8, murphyjrfk wrote: Does any one know if the budget

Re: [RBW] New look on Quickbeam - Gripsters and TrunkSacks

2013-02-23 Thread Robert Harrison
Someone has to do it. It's rough but I'm willing to take the hit so other folks can live in better places. :-) Aloha from Bob (who is gong to ride down Haleakala tomorrow - because someone has to do it.) Bob -- Robert Harrison Honolulu, HI statrix.com On Saturday, February 23, 2013 at

Re: [RBW] Re: Budget Riv? Still on the horizon?

2013-02-23 Thread Bruce Herbitter
Good observation Steve On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: The real shame is that nobody seems able to deal with the huge price penalty we pay for componentry when building up such frames. You could almost come out a head by buying a complete LHT,

[RBW] Re: Any Riv tandem riders--tire width?

2013-02-23 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Is a thread-on drum brake even an option on a new tandem these days? I was looking for an Arai drum a few years ago, and it didn't seem to exist anymore. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: Budget Riv? Still on the horizon?

2013-02-23 Thread Mike
I have a Surly LHT and love it. It's very Rivish in its set-up with 48cm Noodles, Silver shifters, Sugino cranks, VP pedals, Schwalbe 40mm Marathons and a Brooks saddle. It's a versatile bike and has a rides nicely. I say make your own budget Riv by purchasing an LHT or Soma Saga and setting it up

Re: [RBW] New look on Quickbeam - Gripsters and TrunkSacks

2013-02-23 Thread Marty
I've done that ride! Really amazing, but a little dangerous in a group, especially with freezing rain / sleet like it was at the top when my wife and I coasted down. Novice riders on questionable bikes with marginal brakes make for a white knuckle experience. Would I do it again?

[RBW] FS 54cm Ram frame + fork

2013-02-23 Thread JL
I think it is time to part with my Rambouillet. Frame/ Fork/ Headset for sale. 54cm toyo built blue. 9.5 of 10 cosmetic. $1000 shipped pics here: http://tinyurl.com/bdutmjv* *Stand over height is 79cm - fits a 700x32c with fenders / 700x35c (with room) without. Quick/nimble and stable.

Re: [RBW] New look on Quickbeam - Gripsters and TrunkSacks

2013-02-23 Thread Michael
Hawaii is a place I'd like to see sometime. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

[RBW] Re: Budget Riv? Still on the horizon?

2013-02-23 Thread Michael
I'd like to see whatever they do fully lugged with an option for head tube cream paint, for those of us who would be willing to pay a smidge more for the bling. Nice Riv fork bends would be cool. Not like the straighter Marcos fork. But like a typical Riv fork. Maybe these take it outta da

[RBW] Re: FS: Blue 60 cm Ramboullet in So Cal

2013-02-23 Thread KTY
Considering this and would welcome some advice/feedback. I've been corresponding with the seller. He's the original owner, has put about 10k miles on it. Components all look original. Seems well cared for, but I'm relying on photos and info, as I'm not in LA (though my brother is and could

[RBW] Los Angeles Urban Solo ride.

2013-02-23 Thread hsmitham
Had a ride planned with another rider things just come up. I just had to get out and ride on such a beautiful day. http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/sets/72157632838897525/ Hugh Sunland, Ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Blue 60 cm Ramboullet in So Cal

2013-02-23 Thread cyclotourist
I think you pretty much nailed all the considerations. It's a fancier version of the bike you have. Nothing wrong with that, as long as you know it. If the fit is spot on, then the price is really good. You could re-sell your Rom and recoup most of it from that. MA2 rims which people like a lot.

Re: [RBW] Los Angeles Urban Solo ride.

2013-02-23 Thread cyclotourist
Was just looking at those on the flickr. Looks like a nice SoCal ride if there ever was one! On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 10:35 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Had a ride planned with another rider things just come up. I just had to get out and ride on such a beautiful day.

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Blue 60 cm Ramboullet in So Cal

2013-02-23 Thread KTY
Thanks David. I'm thinking the same. The fit would be right--my Rom is a 59. How much more life do you think those components have in them? Was hoping I might get a little more for the Rom here in NYC. Still would be taking a loss--I overpaid by 40%. Ouch. That's how you learn, I guess. --

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Blue 60 cm Ramboullet in So Cal

2013-02-23 Thread dougP
105 is decent stuff, and Southern California is a pretty easy environment with no rain. My Atlantis has a 105 front hub that came with it 10 years ago no worries yet. Other stuff, kinda depends on how hard it was beat but at 10k miles my guess is plenty of life left. dougP On Saturday,

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Blue 60 cm Ramboullet in So Cal

2013-02-23 Thread cyclotourist
If you can get more for your Rom, then it's a no-brainer!!! :-) No idea what the NYC Riv market is, but if you could sell closer to $1200, then yeah, whatcha' waiting for? The mileage appears to be from non-coastal Southern California riding, so the components should have a lot of life left. You

[RBW] Re: Los Angeles Urban Solo ride.

2013-02-23 Thread dougP
Thanks for the photos. It was too nice a day to not ride. We took the Atlantii met a small group for a ride around OC, and one gal had a beautiful 650b Ramboullet. So 3 Rivs out of a group of 9. dougP On Saturday, February 23, 2013 10:35:19 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote: Had a ride planned

[RBW] Re: Los Angeles Urban Solo ride.

2013-02-23 Thread hsmitham
Hi Doug, That's great.I have yet to roll with other Rivs. Love to see some pics of your roll about. Regards, Hugh Sunland, CA On Saturday, February 23, 2013 11:10:12 PM UTC-8, dougP wrote: Thanks for the photos. It was too nice a day to not ride. We took the Atlantii met a small group

Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Urban Solo ride.

2013-02-23 Thread cyclotourist
And to make it a sunny SoCal trifecta, I'll add in that I had an unplanned fantastic ride. Just hopped on the bike and headed uphill. A few short hours later I'm in snow-country! http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/8501214369/in/photostream Felt great, so took the long way home. What a

[RBW] Re: OT Bunyan Velo

2013-02-23 Thread Evan
Wow! Impressive magazine! Congratulations, Jim, for your contribution to it. (I, for one, liked the bosque article by Nicholas Carman. Impressionistic and scattered, yes, but poetic, too.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To