[RBW] Re: CR720 on LongLow

2013-07-01 Thread IanA
I suppose I'm not resolutely against running shorter pads, but they would have to be quite a bit shorter as the CR720 puts the brakes tight to the posts. The tires measure at 34mm so not fat by current RBW standards, but the frame dates from '98. Andrew: thank you for the tip - it's good to

Re: [RBW] Re: LBS Love...

2013-07-01 Thread Matt Beebe
+1 for Harris Cyclery. Everyone there is great, and Elton and Susan have been especially helpful to me. On Sunday, June 30, 2013 3:33:13 PM UTC-4, Jim wrote: Boston Area is lucky. We have Harris Cyclery. You could not ask for better. Good people, good stock, good shop.

[RBW] Re: Travel woes!

2013-07-01 Thread Ron Mc
there's no going back - you'll end up with the Air Marshall and on the no-fly list, just like in Bridesmaids. On Sunday, June 30, 2013 6:21:59 PM UTC-5, Brian Campbell wrote: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To

Re: [RBW] Re: Overheard on Sierra to the Sea

2013-07-01 Thread Ron Mc
Nothing wrong with gears or using gear calculators to plan your set-up. Versatility is a good thing. Just like purpose-built is another good thing. Not every bike needs a 26-inch gear, just like every bike doesn't need a 105-inch gear. (My buddy's Santana tandem has a 126-inch gear) I rode

[RBW] Re: ISO large **non saddlebag loop** seat wedge big enough to carry a 1 qt water container + a 20 oz water bottle.

2013-07-01 Thread richdpow...@gmail.com
I like the Jandd option- might not be large enough for you? Quick- easy on- shock cords down to the drops- expandable and made in the US of A! What is not to like? http://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FMW3 *Specifications:* Volume: (Closed) 368 ci/ 6 ltr (Expanded) 456 ci/

Re: [RBW] CR720 on LongLow

2013-07-01 Thread BSWP
Maybe two times a month, I put my LongLow in the back of my small-ish car, and it only fits with the front wheel removed. I suppose other people remove their front wheels to mount their bikes to rooftop car racks. Just two examples for you, there might be three hundred more. Until you own a

Re: [RBW] CR720 on LongLow

2013-07-01 Thread Scott Henry
Excellent points. I sometimes get spoiled in my little corner of bike life/ I thought of the roof rack thing right after I hit send. I remember maybe 15-20ish years ago, I would actually see people remove the front wheel and Ulock it next to the frame. For the most part, I don't see that too

[RBW] Re: ISO large **non saddlebag loop** seat wedge big enough to carry a 1 qt water container + a 20 oz water bottle.

2013-07-01 Thread Garth
The absolute lightest system would likely be a Camelback/back carrying type of pack really. I've never used one, but I suspect I would be okay with it. Just think of all the energy expended putting water in and out of little bottles. And you can refrigerate them and they'll keep you cool on

Re: [RBW] Re: [BOB] ISO large **non saddlebag loop** seat wedge big enough to carry a 1 qt water container + a 20 oz water bottle.

2013-07-01 Thread Mike Schiller
Aesthetic compulsions! Patrick, you are already on a regular sized bike using circus monkey wheels ( (26). Just kidding of course... maybe one of the frame bags like Jandd's or a large fuel tank from Revelate? They both would fit a 1 qt Platypus container.. And you can leave your regular

Re: [RBW] Re: Overheard on Sierra to the Sea

2013-07-01 Thread Anne Paulson
If brifters don't work well with triples (don't know if that's true) that's an argument against brifters, not an argument against triples. On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Mon, 2013-07-01 at 08:11 -0700, Montclair BobbyB wrote: Eric: Wow, that's

Re: [RBW] Re: Overheard on Sierra to the Sea

2013-07-01 Thread Mike Schiller
It's the access to wide range cassettes that's made triples somewhat obsolete. Using a 44-28 or 46-30 crankset with a 11-30 up to a 12-34 cassette gives one a pretty good range on a road or country bike. Heavily loaded touring bikes being probably one of the only exceptions although it kinda

Re: [RBW] Re: Overheard on Sierra to the Sea

2013-07-01 Thread justinaugust
I think the argument is that with bigger clusters on the back it makes sense to keep the complication located in one place. Less movement = less complication. This obviously is an argument for 3x8 or 3x7 setups over the 2x11 or 1x11 setups that are dominating the high end of the market as well.

Re: [RBW] Re: Overheard on Sierra to the Sea

2013-07-01 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2013-07-01 at 09:05 -0700, Anne Paulson wrote: If brifters don't work well with triples (don't know if that's true) Jan certainly seems to think so: http://janheine.wordpress.com/2013/03/25/trouble-with-sti-triples/ that's an argument against brifters, not an argument against triples.

Re: [RBW] Re: Overheard on Sierra to the Sea

2013-07-01 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2013-07-01 at 09:09 -0700, Mike Schiller wrote: It's the access to wide range cassettes that's made triples somewhat obsolete. Using a 44-28 or 46-30 crankset with a 11-30 up to a 12-34 cassette gives one a pretty good range on a road or country bike. Heavily loaded touring bikes

Re: [RBW] Re: Overheard on Sierra to the Sea

2013-07-01 Thread Patrick Moore
Agree, wide range and sufficiently small gaps with 10 cogs; 2X10 should give you almost as much range with as comfortable a progression as a 3X8. I bumped up to 9 from 7 on the Fargo when I went from 46/36/24 to 38/24 and the range is almost as big and the gaps almost as small and -- here is the

Re: [RBW] Re: Overheard on Sierra to the Sea

2013-07-01 Thread Scott Henry
Except I don't think that I have ever, ever shifted my bicycle like a car, 1-2-3-4 ect. Then there is the point where cross-chaining is more of a big deal on a triple and not really that important at all on a double. Nothing on a bike is really hard or complicated, but I think a 2x10 is most

[RBW] RBWs influence

2013-07-01 Thread Michael Williams
Looks like RBWs ideas are shared by many others! http://surlybikes.com/blog/post/some_things_you_may_not_need -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

[RBW] Re: On tour

2013-07-01 Thread Lynne Fitz
i will have to explore that stretch this summer when we are up there. As long as the gravel isn't deep. On Thursday, June 27, 2013 8:08:50 AM UTC-7, stevef wrote: I wasn't on a Riv, but I saw one, and one of the bikes I took along is a Riv-inspired custom. Just got back from a two week

[RBW] bottom bracket creek, recommendation

2013-07-01 Thread Mojo
So you guys are probably better at this. But just in case: When your bottom bracket area starts creaking with each pedal stroke, before you tighten the chainring bolts, before you tighten the crankarm bolts, before you pull your crankarms and reinstall, before you pull the crankarms again and

Re: [RBW] bottom bracket creek, recommendation

2013-07-01 Thread Seth Vidal
bottom bracket creek should be a name of some place in oregon or maybe in waterford? Anyway - some place where you go splashing through on your bike and you end up with the other homonym of creek. :) -sv On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote: So you guys are probably

[RBW] Re: RBWs influence

2013-07-01 Thread dougP
And I just can't wait for the Rivendell catalogue to come out. Oh well, gotta lotta work to do on that desire thing. dougP On Monday, July 1, 2013 10:15:38 AM UTC-7, Michael Williams wrote: Looks like RBWs ideas are shared by many others!

[RBW] Re: Every Time I post a message to the Group, I get a Gmail error message

2013-07-01 Thread Garth
It happened again, it appears to only occur when I reply to Patrick Moores thread about :* ISO large **non saddlebag *I did some quick checking and it appears that this thread is indeed posted in another group called internet-bob,but *I don't belong or post to that group* ! So somehow

[RBW] Free for an Atlantis owner or other touring RBWer

2013-07-01 Thread Matthew J
Just bought a new and very kool King Kargo Kage. When I went looking for one of my travel tools, I discovered I had one of the old style (have to bolt the bottle cage on it) King Kage. Guess I took it off a frame I donated this Spring. These are a handy way to carry your travel tools. You

Re: [RBW] Free for an Atlantis owner or other touring RBWer

2013-07-01 Thread David Hays
Still available? David Hays 86 Brockett Drive Kenmore, New York 14223 On Jul 1, 2013, at 2:59 PM, Matthew J matthewj...@gmail.com wrote: Just bought a new and very kool King Kargo Kage. When I went looking for one of my travel tools, I discovered I had one of the old style (have to bolt the

Re: [RBW] CR720 on LongLow

2013-07-01 Thread Scott Henry
I hope its not too bad of an omen, I rode my motorcycle to work today which means a real pain to deal with a flat! Scott Cheers, Scott Henry Dayton, OH FTM-PTB On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote: Oh Scott did you really, willingly write that statement about luck

[RBW] Re: Every Time I post a message to the Group, I get a Gmail error message

2013-07-01 Thread Michael Hechmer
Good question. I sometimes get the same message, even though the message has posted! And I get a message that I tried to post to a group in SF that I have never looked at. Apparently Google isn't as smart as it thinks it is. Michael On Friday, June 28, 2013 8:58:44 PM UTC-4, Garth wrote:

Re: [RBW] Free for an Atlantis owner or other touring RBWer

2013-07-01 Thread Matthew J
Well, not any longer ;) Thanks. On Monday, July 1, 2013 2:00:33 PM UTC-5, Davidbea wrote: Still available? David Hays 86 Brockett Drive Kenmore, New York 14223 On Jul 1, 2013, at 2:59 PM, Matthew J matth...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Just bought a new and very kool King Kargo

Re: [RBW] Re: bottom bracket creek, recommendation

2013-07-01 Thread Peter Morgano
Get a sprung brooks saddle, it creaks all the time and covers up any other creaks you might be hearing. Problem solved. :) On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Phil Brown philcyc...@gmail.com wrote: What you think are BB creaks are many times seat post creaks. If it is from the BB teflon tape may

[RBW] Newbaum's cloth bar tape

2013-07-01 Thread Don Compton
I purchased my first cloth bar tape and have a new appreciation for the effort needed to install this tape. I bought Newbaum's and its very nice, but its a bearcat to wrap. Two rolls on my Ergo equipped, 44cm noodles, with a little to spare. Don -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: Newbaum's cloth bar tape

2013-07-01 Thread Michael
I have never installed it when new. I just reused it from bar to bar when I swapped a couple bars. It seemed to go on easy. But it was soft I think after getting reinstalled. ** *I can see how if it was stiffer, like new, that it might be tough to shape it to the bar contours. Is that what

[RBW] Re: Cork handlebar grips, bottle cages

2013-07-01 Thread Anne
Two pair of grips avail (three pair sold). All Cages avail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

Re: [RBW] Re: [BOB] ISO large **non saddlebag loop** seat wedge big enough to carry a 1 qt water container + a 20 oz water bottle.

2013-07-01 Thread Michael Hechmer
Patrick, consider also the kosmic law of conservation. I'm sure you have experienced it, for example, while cleaning your desk. You come across something, perhaps an old invoice or random piece of paper you haven't looked at in years. You throw it out. The day after the recycles get

Re: [RBW] Painting a frame and fork

2013-07-01 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Thumbs UP on Bruce and the Color Factory... Painted my 85 Stumpy deep blue and white, and wife's 85 Stumpy in a soft mint green and ivory. He uses Imron paint and his prices are VERY reasonable. The Onehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/16461051@N04/4415139338/in/set-72157623574409014 Peace

[RBW] Re: Overheard on Sierra to the Sea

2013-07-01 Thread Montclair BobbyB
I stopped using indexed shifters on the front derailleur because it was constantly out of adjustment... Friction is the way to go. And what about chainline? With wider rear hubs (135mm), the triple chainring (assuming the rider shifts properly) will typically ensure a straighter chainline,

Re: [RBW] Re: [BOB] ISO large **non saddlebag loop** seat wedge big enough to carry a 1 qt water container + a 20 oz water bottle.

2013-07-01 Thread Patrick Moore
Michaels Schiller and Hechmer: Isn't it rather amazing how much bandwidth one can take up analyzing such a question? But it's fun. Patrick Moore, grimly bottom-trimming in ABQ, NM http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com

[RBW] I'm not sure I get the connection between bikes and hatchets...

2013-07-01 Thread Rex Kerr
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/axe425.htm http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/camping-axe-by-bahco.html I tend to tour heavy, but not THAT heavy! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: Newbaum's cloth bar tape

2013-07-01 Thread Johnny Alien
I actually find the Newbaums a pain to install. Something about it makes it want to go on crooked. The best bar tape was that Japanese kind that Rivendell carried a year back or less. I want to know where to get more of that. The light green was a fantastic color. On Monday, July 1, 2013

Re: [RBW] Re: Newbaum's cloth bar tape

2013-07-01 Thread Lee Chae
Hi Johnny. I believe Jitensha Studio still carries the Viva cloth tape: http://jitensha.com/eng/tape_e.html Best, Le On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.netwrote: I actually find the Newbaums a pain to install. Something about it makes it want to go on crooked.

[RBW] Re: I'm not sure I get the connection between bikes and hatchets...

2013-07-01 Thread Joe Bernard
IMO it's more a Grant neat thing made in a little shop in Sweden connection than bike connection. I don't quite get it for biking, either, but it's an interesting thing to look at/know about which I wouldn't have come across any other way. Joe not a hatchet man Bernard Vallejo, CA. On

Re: [RBW] Re: Newbaum's cloth bar tape

2013-07-01 Thread Christopher Chen
Also at SOMA fab: http://store.somafab.com/vivatape.html On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Lee Chae leec...@stanford.edu wrote: Hi Johnny. I believe Jitensha Studio still carries the Viva cloth tape: http://jitensha.com/eng/tape_e.html Best, Le On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Johnny

[RBW] Re: Newbaum's cloth bar tape

2013-07-01 Thread Don Compton
I found that when wrapping around the levers, the tape can twist and fold. Its almost impossible to pull apart. On Monday, July 1, 2013 2:58:53 PM UTC-7, Johnny Alien wrote: I actually find the Newbaums a pain to install. Something about it makes it want to go on crooked. The best bar

[RBW] Re: Newbaum's cloth bar tape

2013-07-01 Thread Don Compton
I have to add that in the end, its a great product and I would buy it again. Don On Monday, July 1, 2013 3:51:08 PM UTC-7, Don Compton wrote: I found that when wrapping around the levers, the tape can twist and fold. Its almost impossible to pull apart. On Monday, July 1, 2013 2:58:53

[RBW] Re: I'm not sure I get the connection between bikes and hatchets...

2013-07-01 Thread Garth
Blame it on Monty Python lol I'm a Lumberjack and I'm Okay ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zey8567bcg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: Newbaum's cloth bar tape

2013-07-01 Thread Johnny Alien
Thanks for the links guys! That olive green is the best color ever. I must add that while I criticized the difficulty of wrapping it I think the Newbaum tape is fantastic when it's on. On Monday, July 1, 2013 3:46:40 PM UTC-4, Don Compton wrote: I purchased my first cloth bar tape and have a

Re: [RBW] Re: Newbaum's cloth bar tape

2013-07-01 Thread Christopher Chen
What I love about the stuff is how I can re-apply a new coat of shellac a few months or a year later and this just refreshes everything. None of this regular re-taping. Just care and feeding. On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.netwrote: Thanks for the links guys!

[RBW] Re: I'm not sure I get the connection between bikes and hatchets...

2013-07-01 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
bamboo boxes probably fall into the same category. Interesting none-the-less. --Smitty On Monday, July 1, 2013 2:56:23 PM UTC-7, Rex Kerr wrote: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/axe425.htm http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/camping-axe-by-bahco.html I tend to tour heavy, but not

[RBW] Betty delivery......catch-22

2013-07-01 Thread Abcyclehank
Had an expected July 1st Rivendell 60cm Betty frame being delivered. Monday and Tuesday's make up my wife's weekend since she regularly works weekends as a makeup consultant in various retail environments. She had a doctor's appointment that she wanted me to attend also so I was caught in a

Re: [RBW] Re: Newbaum's cloth bar tape

2013-07-01 Thread Matthew J
Hi Johnny. I believe Jitensha Studio still carries the Viva cloth tape: They sure did in February when I was there and bought a couple rolls of the yellow. What a great place. And speaking of hard, Viva/Toshi IME is a lot more difficult to apply than Newbaum. Both brands look great though.

[RBW] Re: I'm not sure I get the connection between bikes and hatchets...

2013-07-01 Thread Matthew J
They are cool. Hand made. Too heavy maybe for a multi-day camping trip, but GP champions the S240. For an over nighter, why not bring a fun axe to prep your fire? On Monday, July 1, 2013 4:56:23 PM UTC-5, Rex Kerr wrote: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/axe425.htm

[RBW] Re: I'm not sure I get the connection between bikes and hatchets...

2013-07-01 Thread Joe Bernard
Of course, S24O might explain why I don't get it as a cycling tool. I've never bike camped, and the image I get of such an endeavor is me in the woods with a smartphone, scrolling through Twitter and hoping the scary animals don't get me. For a cyclist, I'm not very outdoorsy :) Joe is my

[RBW] kinda cool video from Breadwinner Bicycles

2013-07-01 Thread Mike Schiller
the joint venture from Tony Pereira and Ira Ryan. Nice looking frames IMO. Makes me want to move to Portland tomorrow. That and all the brewpubs. http://vimeo.com/69092992 ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To

[RBW] Re: Cork handlebar grips, bottle cages

2013-07-01 Thread Anne
All cork grips have been claimed. Thanks! All Cages avail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

[RBW] Re: Betty delivery......catch-22

2013-07-01 Thread Michael
First rule of an RBW shipment: Tracking, tracking, tracking... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: I'm not sure I get the connection between bikes and hatchets...

2013-07-01 Thread justinaugust
Look up Bestmade axe and start shaking your head at fashionjacks. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Newbaum's cloth bar tape

2013-07-01 Thread justinaugust
Newbaum is local to me! And they make rim tape as well! -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

Re: [RBW] Re: Newbaum's cloth bar tape

2013-07-01 Thread Don Compton
I like the uncoated look. Is it possible to coat the tape with a light coat and still have the look of not being coated? On Monday, July 1, 2013 5:00:16 PM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote: What I love about the stuff is how I can re-apply a new coat of shellac a few months or a year later and

Re: [RBW] Re: Newbaum's cloth bar tape

2013-07-01 Thread BSWP
Yes, just don't brush as much shellac on, and it will look a bit darker, maybe, but not glossy - the weave of the fabric will still stand out. - Andrew, Berkeley On Monday, July 1, 2013 8:27:24 PM UTC-7, Don Compton wrote: I like the uncoated look. Is it possible to coat the tape with a light

[RBW] Re: Betty delivery......catch-22

2013-07-01 Thread Abcyclehank
I had been tracking all week expecting delivery between 1000 and 1130am, just caught off guard by wife's request for me to drive her to an appointment. Watched clock hoping for an early arrival then finally at 1040 I conceded and we left together. Now I was hoping for a delay. Upon our

[RBW] Re: RBWs influence

2013-07-01 Thread Manuel Acosta
Agreed with most things here. Ride with what you have. Ride in what you wear. Ride whatever you want. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] S240 Bike Camping goes mainstream with Public Bikes.

2013-07-01 Thread Manuel Acosta
Had the pleasure to be invited to a Bike-In Camp-out with Public Bikes and Alite Designs. I guess sleeping outside with bikes isn't really a new thing. But it's good to see more people doing it. Had blast. Not amazingly outdoorsy but still pretty fun. Brencho, Brian and I represented with