Pre-Script: Oliver leads a good ride. A damn good ride.
I had plans to ride the Three Capes 300k today, but logistics and group
cohesion issues forced us to re-evaluate. A plausible substitute was
chosen: an out and back to Ripplebrook on the Clackamas River in the Mount
Hood National Forest.
I
Oh yeah pictures prove something something
https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/sets/72157644113342302/
On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 11:44 PM, Chris Chen cc...@nougat.org wrote:
Pre-Script: Oliver leads a good ride. A damn good ride.
I had plans to ride the Three Capes 300k today, but
Awesome, Chris! What a wonderful ride. Rain rides are spectacular,
especially when you have the right clothing!
With abandon,
Patrick
On Sunday, April 20, 2014 12:46:09 AM UTC-6, Christopher Chen wrote:
Oh yeah pictures prove something something
Shermer illustrates just how counterproductive competition can be to riding
for health and fun. 1 in 3 cyclists in the race will suffer from
Shermerneck.
Somebody had to say it.
Snicker? No. Shake my head - yes.
Grant's role model reminder seems to be lost.
But I think a long ride like RAAM shows that they are all great materials
for bike riding.
Materials and design that do well in a race, long or short, are proven to
do well in a race. Not for real life.
There are many considerations non-racers have that racers do not. This
cannot be
Are these on tubeless specific rims or something else?
On Saturday, April 19, 2014 4:02:43 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
This might be useful to some. This month marks a full year of Stan's in
the 700CX28 tubes inside the Parigi Roubaix on the Ram that I finally built
and got on the road
Fantastic to hear! So, all I need do is remove the valve from the tube,
insert the Stan's, replace the valve and inflate per normal to make my
Smart Sams flat proof?
With abandon,
Patrick
On Saturday, April 19, 2014 3:02:43 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:
This might be useful to some. This
That's not true at all Mathew ! ;) This morning I'm watching the Amstel
Gold race, last week Paris Roubaix . Etc. Etc . . I'll watch any European
race ! Every Pro bike, anyone can but those frames. The days of custom
frame makers for even pros is for the most part gone. There are sometimes
Christopher, glad you and Oliver got out for that ride. Amazing country out
that way. The roads beyond Ripplebrook are even better. Consider heading
out that way and beyond for either longer rides or overnights.
Consider taking Hwy 224 up and over the hill out of Estacada next time if
you're
I love watching bike racing. Paris Roubaix this year was a very exciting
race; I watched it while pedaling my Sam Hillborne set up on a
trainerno kidding.
anyway, I don't ever see myself purchasing a carbon frame and can't really
say I care much about the advantages if any they offer in
On Saturday, April 19, 2014 6:39:31 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/rick_bergstrom/13932180295/in/pool-bicycleasart
Grin.
Ha, Calfee did that back in 2006:
http://www.bikingbis.com/_photos/calfee1.sized.jpg
He also did another version with what appears to be
In this discussion, can we distinguish among several things that have
raised comments?
Frame material.
Riding position.
Current frames, by weight.
Current frames, by design.
Frame material in itself has nothing to do with riding position or
Shermer's neck; it has nothing to do with frame weight;
I really dislike the term ghetto tubeless. I have used and generally endorse
the method of this type of improvised tubeless conversion (with certain rims)
and don't see any reason to describe it with a racist term.
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OK, so the split tube method (I don't like the other term either), how
should I do it, for a 29 x 3 tire? Get a 26 x 2 tube, stretch in on the
rim, split it? Then install the tire so that the edges of the tube are
sticking out on the outside? Then inflate the tire, hoping that it doesn't
leak air,
http://hiawathacyclery.blogspot.com/2013/02/fat-tire-tubeless-conversions.html?m=1
For a 29x3, 4-6 fl oz of Stan's or Caffelatex.
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Ghetto is a racist term now? I've always understood it to be a reference
to the economics of a neighborhood. For it to be racist do we not have to
be applying a very narrow point of reference at any time and place in
history? And the people who live in ghettos absolutely get creative in
Anne, I was under the impression that the Stans simply goes into the tube,
and gets installed the same as it otherwise would. Thus, I'm not following
your split tube description.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Sunday, April 20, 2014 9:24:01 AM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote:
OK, so the split tube
Ooh, thanks.
I was hoping I'd save more weight than 50 grams, though. Seems like I could
use a split tube that was a lot lighter than the one pound plus 29 x 3
tubes I have in the bike now. But maybe I should just try putting a lighter
tube into the tire and see how that works out.
On Sun, Apr
The term ghetto is used by many as a coded racial term. In any case, the
word's history is not exactly positive for various groups of oppressed people
who've been relegated to living in ghettos. For us to use it as a term for any
improvised or haphazard mechanical solution on our expensive
Anne, tubeless set ups aren't really for saving weight. Their main benefits
are riding at lower pressure w/out pinchflatting (similar to tubulars) and
more importantly (for me) puncture protection. There's usually a minor
weight savings, but it's minimal at best.
Cheers,
David
it isn't a
On Apr 20, 2014, at 10:44 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:
Ghetto is a racist term now? I've always understood it to be a reference to
the economics of a neighborhood. For it to be racist do we not have to be
applying a very narrow point of reference at any time and place in
I should probably just switch from tubes that weigh 410 grams each to tubes
that weigh less, then.
On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 9:21 AM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:
Anne, tubeless set ups aren't really for saving weight. Their main
benefits are riding at lower pressure w/out
That's the easy way to do it! :-)
Unless you want the low pressure and puncture protection though. If you
don't flat a lot, then no big deal. And you already probably can run them
at pretty low pressure due to their volume.
For me, low pressure doesn't matter much. But like Patrick, the puncture
Yeah, low pressure is no problem.
On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 9:43 AM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:
That's the easy way to do it! :-)
Unless you want the low pressure and puncture protection though. If you
don't flat a lot, then no big deal. And you already probably can run them
Don't feel alone in watching bike racing. It's great. It's also great to
race. I know several people who used to ride, because they used to race.
Now they don't ride. It's a shame. Bikes should be purpose-built.
Racing is a purpose. Racing is not the purpose of riding.
On Sunday,
So you think ghetto is anti-semetic???
Patrick racist-ish-ally mixed (maylay/chinese/spanish/english/scotch
(heheheh) irish and probably other woodpile additions, with jokes for all
of them Moore, who has taken an eternal vow never, ever to be excessively
earnest.
On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 9:04
IMO these split-tube conversions don't save weight, but they provide a measure
of puncture resistance. More importantly, I feel that the ride quality is
enhanced because the lack of tube makes the tire effectively more supple.
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My point is this: Racism (an inherent evil) gives rise to a number of
cures which seem to me to perpetuate victimhood, among them the plethora
of words that get labeled as blanket racist words. There ought to be a far
more effective cure. Oh, wait. There is. Given us on Easter. Love and
Deacon Patrick, you are free to use whatever language you like. My perspective
is that the word ghetto used as an adjective in this way is demeaning, and
that we should think twice before casually using the term. In my youth, old
guys would have said n_-rigged , which had a similar
Och! Jim. This is precisely the divineness to which I was referring.
Sardonic grin. I am sorry I made my point ineptly. Thank you for informing
me that ghetto is on the list of never to use words.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Sunday, April 20, 2014 11:52:32 AM UTC-6, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
On 04/20/2014 11:04 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote:
I really dislike the term ghetto tubeless. I have used and generally endorse
the method of this type of improvised tubeless conversion (with certain rims) and don't
see any reason to describe it with a racist term.
Perhaps field
Thank you Jim. I've been struggling with the words to say regarding this phrase
and you explained it perfectly.
-Justin
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Hi Anne,
I've been running Knards (29 X 3) on my Krampus tubeless for several months
with no problems. I used a couple layers of Gorilla Tape. I run them at 9
psi rear and 7 psi front with no problems and haven't had a flat yet. FWIW
they're lighter now, too, but I primarily did it for low
Thought I PM'd you yesterday, but maybe I missed out? --Tom
On Friday, April 18, 2014 8:33:44 PM UTC-4, Tom Rooker wrote:
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Issues are:
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I still have 3 Furious Freds to wear out, but I do miss the up-to-65 mm
width of Big Apples and the as-low-as 12/16 psi pressures (the BAs had
sturdier sidewalls and contained tubes). Reviews of the Knard make it very
intriguing, and per my admittedly cursory measurements the Fargo has enough
room
Since that first longer ride with a few ghost shifts, I have not had any
ghost shifting at all, no matter the gear (including the previously
problematic smallest cog). That mini-cog swap fix works fantastically!
With abandon,
Patrick
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When I built up my Road as a 650B, I used a NOS Shimano Uniglide 7 speed.
It's worked fine since day 1, although replacement cassettes are hard to
find. When I saw one at Loose Screws, I picked it up for shelf stock.
On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:
A fascinating thing is happening riding the Albastache vs. the Albatross.
My back and neck are far more relaxed after rides. I presume this is
because there is less conflicting information from the vertigo, and my body
is in a position to maximize proprioception. Not that this difference is
So there are two styles of Improvised Tubeless Conversion? The Split Tube
method, and the Gorilla Tape method? Those terms are actually descriptive.
I used a Stan's kit to turn non-tubeless rims and tires into a decent tubeless
setup. I'm a fan.
Philip
www.biketinker.com
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Hey Patrick,
I made some measurements on normal rims and 35mm Blunts when I was getting
ready for a Krampus. I summarized it here:
http://bikingtoplay.blogspot.com/2013/12/niner-knard-niknard.html
I measured 65~68mm wide, depending on the rim. That's with tubes.
I just checked again, and the
I'm with your suggestion Steve; Field Expedient tubeless.
I'm all about the intellectual agility to know what you don't have, what
you want to do and coming up with a way to accomplish it anyway!
My raters used several terms to describe that process/product method when
in the service, all
Hi Patrick,
Southern NM greetings to you! I'm afraid I don't have a way to measure the
tires, but I'm running them on stock Rabbit Hole rims with the Gorilla Tape
tubeless conversion (I think I read about it on Gypsy by Trade or While Out
Wandering). I start to hit the rim at 6 in the front
Relax, folks, there are appropriate terms to describe such improvisation.
Jury-rigged suggests improvisation in an emergency, as does
MacGyvered. Jerry-built signifies very shoddily constructed. The
two are often conflated to Jerry-rigged, which means organized or
constructed in a crude or
I'm waiting for WTB to make their 2.8 Trailblazer tire which they say is
going to be made in 650B. While you would need a new set of wheels, the
smaller rim and larger tire is purportedly measures about the same diameter
as a 29 X 2.3 wheel. This would fit more existing 29er's than a Knard and
I think we used a Stan's rim strip to cover the holes (Rabbit Hole Rims)
and then either one or two layers of Gorilla Tape over that. So far so
good, and they even re-inflated with a hand pump when I put more Stan's in.
I was going to go split-tube next if it didn't work... It seems like
My bike has a click/ping/ting sound that happens at the same place in the pedal
stroke (as my right foot nears the bottom of the stroke). It happens in various
gears and most of the time, but seems to randomly disappear. It stops if I stop
pedaling. Based on this, I believe I can eliminate
Hugh,
The Burley Moosehead rack sold by Bikeman does indeed take panniers... we
used panniers with ours.
most of the time its the pedal(s). swap pedals and see what happens
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I wasn't present when they adapted the rims, but I understand that they
used tape to build up the rim bed so that the split inner tube liner would
be high enough to create an effective seal.
I gather that they used a *lot* of tape; so much that there was no weight
saved by jettisoning the
This is a good first step. Also you can remove your current pedals and
regrease the threads and re-install. none of these pedal fixes work, inspect
the crank arms for cracks.
Larry Powers
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From: mikel66...@juno.com
I had this happen twice on a road Riv with Phil bb with aluminum cups --
don't know if this last bit of info is relevant. On both occasions,
tightening the left side cup stopped the noise and it hasn't recurred.
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My bike
Och! I hope it's not the pedals. They're new as of September last year.
They are rebuildable though, being VP Vice. That is a good first place to
start. Thanks!
With abandon,
Patrick
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Double check chain links, you may have a tight one. Also chainring teeth.
One or two might be bent a bit.
Cheers,
David
it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal
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Och! I hope it's not the pedals. They're
Can anyone comment on mounting a rear Magnic light with a rack/panniers? I
run a standard dyno light on the front but the wiring job has always kept
me from having a dyno rear light. Would be great if this could provide a
minimally intrusive solution.
On Saturday, April 19, 2014 1:28:35 AM
I have had an annoying click/creak a few times - once it was my saddle. That
makes the creak sound like it's coming from the bottom bracket. Another was a
problem w the bottom bracket itself. Those are the only 2 I can remember
finding the answer to!
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I had a similar issue, it was the rubber on the back of my shoes clipping
the bowed out chainstays on the bombadil. But I imagine barefoot you would
be able to feel that happening. Took me a bit to figure it out. Mystery
sounds are the worst, hopefully the rabbit hole won't be that deep. Good
I had a similar click/creak. I pulled the crank arms, greased and reinstalled.
Solved.
Silent again,
Edwin
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1. loosen, then re-tighten pedals into cranks.
2. loosen, and then retighten tire valve nuts.
3. See here for a list of bike noises and their solutions.:
http://www.jimlangley.net/wrench/keepitquiet.html
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I have a Magnic taillight mounted on my Bleriot with a Velo Orange
Constructeur rack:
https://flic.kr/p/jPwckp
https://flic.kr/p/jPx6Uv
Despite appearances in the second photo, the light is very visible from the
back.
I've also used the Magnic taillight successfully on my Quickbeam, which is
Probably the pedals, I seem to be re-greasing my MKS touring pedals every 6
months or so. The first time that I was trying to track down the click had
me in a panic though but turned into an easy fix.
-Andy
On Sunday, April 20, 2014 6:06:52 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
My bike has a
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