[RBW] FS: Used 54cm Soma San Marcos (SoCal)

2014-06-27 Thread Tony Lockhart
*For Sale: 54cm Soma San Marco *(included: Tange headset, downtube cable stops, triangle frame bag) Sizing - fits just like my 56cm Sam Hillborne (and 58cm Simpleone) and has a stand over height under 32 inched with 700x28mm tires. You can probably squeeze in 32mm tires with fenders or 40mm

[RBW] Re: One reason I love my Sam Hillborne

2014-06-27 Thread Tony Lockhart
Good to hear! Just think of how much extra energy you're using to power that Sam up the hill. You're probably considerably stronger if you're normally putting out this kind of effort. FWIW, I've had my Sam for about 4 years and it's always been my favorite bike. Other bikes have come and gone,

[RBW] HaHallelujah It's A Miracle: No More QB Squeal

2014-06-27 Thread Larry Powers
I have had a green QuickBeam for about 9 years and when I got it the front break squealed but it could be minimized. Trial and error with other brakes and pads just made things worse over the years until finally this spring I had had enough. My mechanic and steel bike affectionado said it was

[RBW] Re: HaHallelujah It's A Miracle: No More QB Squeal

2014-06-27 Thread Deacon Patrick
Wow! That's quite a long squealing journey! I am glad you figured it out. With abandon, Patrick On Friday, June 27, 2014 6:35:16 AM UTC-6, LAP57 wrote: I have had a green QuickBeam for about 9 years and when I got it the front break squealed but it could be minimized. Trial and error with

[RBW] Re: Overheard at a bike shop

2014-06-27 Thread Ron Mc
we've certainly had this discussion before. It's tough to get the word out when the main spokesmen are 20-30-somethings who need to push cookie-cutter bikes. Comfort is a four-letter word in cookie cutter bikes. There are a few bastions of sanity around

Re: [RBW] Re: Overheard at a bike shop

2014-06-27 Thread Addison Wilhite
I think a good rule of thumb when checking out shops is to see if you can find out what kind of bikes the shop mechanics ride. My LBS has a fairly broad range of stuff on the floor and has been in business for 40 years. They are also a Gunnar dealer in part because of me using them when I

Re: [RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres tires, a review.

2014-06-27 Thread Jan Heine
I totally agree. As our research has shown, tire pressure is much less important than most of us used to think. This is especially true with supple tires. When we tested a Vittoria CX, it no longer held its line in corners because the sidewalls collapsed before the rolling resistance goes up

Re: [RBW] Re: Overheard at a bike shop

2014-06-27 Thread James Warren
I think certain Rivs are easily hop-on-and-go bikes. If a Rivendell such as the Hillborne or Cheviot comes with indexed bar-end shifters and flat, normal-shoe pedals, what is there on that bike that requires terminology or mechanical experience that is any more prohibitive than typical

[RBW] Re: Jamboree and Entmoot shirts and patches

2014-06-27 Thread Marc Irwin
are we able to order through Etsy now if we are not able to attend? Marc On Saturday, June 21, 2014 5:48:35 PM UTC-4, Philip Williamson wrote: I saw the sample patch this morning; it looks good. I'm revising the artwork today for more graceful stems and cranks. I'm very excited about it.

Re: [RBW] Re: Overheard at a bike shop

2014-06-27 Thread Bill Lindsay
I think certain Rivs are easily hop-on-and-go bikes. If a Rivendell such as the Hillborne or Cheviot comes with indexed bar-end shifters and flat, normal-shoe pedals, what is there on that bike that requires terminology or mechanical experience that is any more prohibitive than typical

Re: [RBW] Re: Overheard at a bike shop

2014-06-27 Thread dougP
I don't see that Rivendells require any more mechanical interest or involvement than any other bike. The versatility of design allows one to set-up the bike in a variety of ways. The Atlantis is an excellent case in point. The old brochures show them in several guises - tourer, commuter,

Re: [RBW] FS: Used 54cm Soma San Marcos (SoCal)

2014-06-27 Thread Jim Bronson
What's the (non-theoretical) TT on this frame? The TT listed on the Rivendell geometry charts is theoretical. On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 1:23 AM, Tony Lockhart alockhart...@gmail.com wrote: *For Sale: 54cm Soma San Marco *(included: Tange headset, downtube cable stops, triangle frame bag)

Re: [RBW] chain line

2014-06-27 Thread Zack B
If you have any issues with the set up: http://sheldonbrown.com/chainline.html https://www.bbinstitute.com/dl/dx_demo_chapter_10.pdf On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On 06/26/2014 10:16 AM, Patrick Moore wrote: Jay -- chainline is no more important

Re: [RBW] Re: If you were going to go out and buy a fully modern contemporary bike, what would it be?

2014-06-27 Thread Mark Chandler
I spent ~3 years on a Salsa Vaya, and it was *extremely *capable on dirt/gravel and pavement. There is something about a steel frame/fork that just plain works on dirt and gravel roads. I have a 29er that's built around an aluminum frame and carbon fork, but I will probably switch to a steel fork

[RBW] Re: Jamboree and Entmoot shirts and patches

2014-06-27 Thread Shoji Takahashi
I purchased through etsy. Wish I could be there! On Friday, June 27, 2014 10:23:29 AM UTC-4, Marc Irwin wrote: are we able to order through Etsy now if we are not able to attend? Marc On Saturday, June 21, 2014 5:48:35 PM UTC-4, Philip Williamson wrote: I saw the sample patch this

[RBW] Re: Overheard at a bike shop

2014-06-27 Thread Mike Schiller
Yes Tom... I'm talking about Chuck. You should stop by and chat ( and buy something). He's on 101 and Vista in O'side now. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. On Thursday, June 26, 2014 9:23:04 PM UTC-7, Tom Virgil wrote: Heya Mike, Would you be talking Chuck Hoefer at Pacific Coast Cycles? Chuck built my

[RBW] Re: Jamboree and Entmoot shirts and patches

2014-06-27 Thread Deacon Patrick
Etsy does a check (via Google's ubiquitous eyes everywhere?) to confirm you are attending the Entmoot and only then processing your order. Grin. Like Shoji, I orders via Etsy and wish I could go and my order went though just fine. With abandon, Patrick On Friday, June 27, 2014 8:23:29 AM

Re: [RBW] Overheard at a bike shop

2014-06-27 Thread Patrick Moore
Unlike you, I did say a word when I stood next to a young man who was at least 6'3 tall (he was taller than my 6'2 brother) to whom the clerk was trying to sell a 56 cm frame. I threw a wrench into the spokes of that sale! With modern compact frames, roughly what heights would ride a 56 -- not

[RBW] A few Legolas June rides in western Colorado

2014-06-27 Thread 'Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch
The chameleon that is the Legolas is currently set up in randonneur style. With 36/50 12-36 gearing it will climb any paved or dirt road around here even with a less than prime motor. June is a great month to ride the Colorado high country with the mud season over for most of the pass, and

[RBW] s24o Packing list

2014-06-27 Thread Edwin W
I am headed out on my first s24o tomorrow with my cousin. I would love to hear the packing list for various folks, as while I have biked nearly everyday for most of my life, I am a city slicker. Tell me about what you bring bike maintenance-wise. Tell me about what you bring camping-wise. Tell

Re: [RBW] Re: HaHallelujah It's A Miracle: No More QB Squeal

2014-06-27 Thread Peter Morgano
Larry, just out of curiosity what brakes were you running before the 720s? Glad you finally got the squeaks out. I had one develop in the middle of a ride probably from some road grease or grime and my wife said she could hear me coming 2 blocks away! On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 7:42 AM, Deacon

[RBW] Re: A few Legolas June rides in western Colorado

2014-06-27 Thread Deacon Patrick
Great pictures, Joe! You are right, that gearing is perfect for all but loaded single track. You out of Denver? With abandon, Patrick On Friday, June 27, 2014 9:59:38 AM UTC-6, Mojo wrote: The chameleon that is the Legolas is currently set up in randonneur style. With 36/50 12-36 gearing it

Re: [RBW] s24o Packing list

2014-06-27 Thread Addison Wilhite
We have the benefit of mountain streams/rivers here for keeping that all important beer cold. As far as camping...in the Reno area my friends and I have remarked on the irony that we pack almost as much for a s24o ride as we would for a full on multi day tour. The difference might be in food

[RBW] Re: s24o Packing list

2014-06-27 Thread Bill Lindsay
I'll be able to pick up cold beers and ice a few miles from our destination, but then what? Step 1: Open container Step 2: Consume contents Step 3: Recycle empty container Step 4: Grab next full container and repeat at Step 1 Seriously though, for an S24O bring whatever. There will be 2 or

[RBW] Possibly a nice shoe for clips 'n' straps and no-retention pedals

2014-06-27 Thread Patrick Moore
http://urbanvelo.org/chrome-forged-rubber/ -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis

Re: [RBW] s24o Packing list

2014-06-27 Thread James Warren
Things I've wished I had at the campground: Flip flops Forehead flashlight Hot beverage mug with a handle, shatter-resistant Plastic spork Rain fly on tent if sleeping under trees when it's not raining on Mount Tam Sent from my iPhone On Jun 27, 2014, at 9:06 AM, Edwin W dweenda...@hotmail.com

Re: [RBW] s24o Packing list

2014-06-27 Thread Peter Morgano
Forehead flashlight can make your life a whole lot easier getting stuff setup at dusk/nighttime when you arrive. +1 on that! On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 11:21 AM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: Things I've wished I had at the campground: Flip flops Forehead flashlight Hot

Re: [RBW] s24o Packing list

2014-06-27 Thread Anne Paulson
James says: Rain fly on tent if sleeping under trees when it's not raining on Mount Tam Why would you say that? ;) I suggest bug stuff: bug spray or a bug stick. On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: Forehead flashlight can make your life a whole

[RBW] Marin County Sheriff's Office recovers 139 bicycles/frames

2014-06-27 Thread Tom Virgil
http://blog.sfgate.com/crime/wp-content/blogs.dir/2244/files/stolen-marin-county-bicycles/i-ggwxj36-l.jpg http://blog.sfgate.com/crime/2014/06/26/bike-stolen-here-are-139-photos-you-should-see/#24637101=0 Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW

[RBW] Re: s24o Packing list

2014-06-27 Thread Edwin W
On your 10th S24O you'll be so dialed that you'll be watching the news at home on the sofa, and you'll say Screw this, I'm going on an overnighter and in 20 minutes you'll be on the road. A man can dream! Anne - bug spray is a must in TN, that's for sure. Good start, thanks! -- You received

[RBW] Re: Possibly a nice shoe for clips 'n' straps and no-retention pedals

2014-06-27 Thread Bill Lindsay
You always have your finger on the pulse of the hipster culture. :-) Those are pretty slick shoes. When I finish blowing through these Sambas, I'll definitely give those Chromes a look. There's a sweet Chrome store in San Francisco that's near several other shops my family frequents. On

[RBW] Re: s24o Packing list

2014-06-27 Thread Deacon Patrick
Entirely depend on the climate in which you are going. I have to go prepared for 3.75 seasons year round regardless of forecast. We've had tornados, flooding, hail, snow, sunny and clear even, sometimes on the same trip. Temps can range from 90 and dry to 20 and wet/frozen. So if you go

[RBW] Re: s24o Packing list

2014-06-27 Thread Bill Lindsay
I have it pretty good. My S24O strategy is basically: 1. Live life 2. Wait for text from Manny 3. Text from Manny arrives 4. Pack up and head out My son doesn't even ask me can we do an overnighter?. He asks have you heard from Manny? On Friday, June 27, 2014 9:45:12 AM UTC-7, Edwin W

[RBW] Re: Marin County Sheriff's Office recovers 139 bicycles/frames

2014-06-27 Thread Bill Lindsay
There's some pretty distinctive stuff in there, and plenty of garbage. Hopefully some people get their bikes back. I'm curious of the maker of #65. That looks like some kind of custom. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group.

[RBW] Re: Possibly a nice shoe for clips 'n' straps and no-retention pedals

2014-06-27 Thread Michael Hechmer
Well maybe. Natural latex has some good qualities and I wish the people of Thailand well, but the argument that there is a technical advantage to producing in Thailand leaves me suspicious. I'll bet labor, environmental and tax law had more to do with that decision. In any case it takes a

[RBW] Re: s24o Packing list

2014-06-27 Thread 'doc' via RBW Owners Bunch
For me, the difference between the kit for an S24O and a longer tour comes down to bare bones for cooking/coffee (usually an Esbit v. canister setup) and choices for clothing. Beyond that, my advice for first time bike campers is: don't get lost, don't get cold, don't get hungry.

[RBW] Re: s24o Packing list

2014-06-27 Thread Shoji Takahashi
I need a Manny in my area. Can you order one through Riv? or is it one of those products that are always undergoing testing (like the HAR and its bags)? On Friday, June 27, 2014 12:53:54 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote: I have it pretty good. My S24O strategy is basically: 1. Live life 2.

Re: [RBW] FS: Used 54cm Soma San Marcos (SoCal)

2014-06-27 Thread Bill Lindsay
Jim This is a fun law of sines problem. As we all know the theoretical top tube length is the one that tells you about fit, since it's the level distance from the seat tube to the head tube. But since you asked, here's how you set it up: We've got a triangle with three sides with lengths a,

[RBW] Re: Marin County Sheriff's Office recovers 139 bicycles/frames

2014-06-27 Thread dougP
There's an RB-T that looks fairly complete. dougP On Friday, June 27, 2014 9:40:21 AM UTC-7, Tom Virgil wrote: http://blog.sfgate.com/crime/wp-content/blogs.dir/2244/files/stolen-marin-county-bicycles/i-ggwxj36-l.jpg

Re: [RBW] FS: Used 54cm Soma San Marcos (SoCal)

2014-06-27 Thread Bill Lindsay
Jim This is a fun law of sines problem. As we all know the theoretical top tube length is the one that tells you about fit, since it's the level distance from the seat tube to the head tube. But since you asked, here's how you set it up: We've got a triangle with three sides with lengths a,

Re: [RBW] If you were going to go out and buy a fully modern contemporary bike, what would it be?

2014-06-27 Thread Steven Frederick
I'm pretty satisfied with my modernish steel road bikes--I might be tempted by a disc-brake equipped version (say a 650b version of the Gunnar Fastlane) but what I have works fine. I get my modern bike kicks off road, with suspension-equipped trail bikes. And a fat bike. Gots to have a fat

RE: [RBW] Re: HaHallelujah It's A Miracle: No More QB Squeal

2014-06-27 Thread Larry Powers
I think th last brakes were avid shorty 6's. They may have been the worst. I started with stock shimano brakes and I think I tried Some Cane Creeks. Lots of different pads on each. Larry Powers Get a bicycle. You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014

Re: [RBW] Vittoria Voyager/Hyper Tires . . . . . . Oooh Lah Lah !

2014-06-27 Thread Brian Campbell
I was riding those before the switch to the Compass, Barlow Pass. The Vittoria's are great tires. If you like them, when they wear out, give the Barlow Pass a try. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this

[RBW] Re: s24o Packing list

2014-06-27 Thread dougP
A soft sided, insulated 6 pack sized cooler with those freezy blocks will keep the beer cold enough for a few hours. Camping gear, eh, I forgot my pad one time I'm still here. Bike maintenance? Nothing beyond whatever's on the bike for normal riding. My MSR pocket rocket is handy for

[RBW] WTB/WTT: TA Pro Vis 5 Crankset or Arms

2014-06-27 Thread Brian Campbell
Looking foa set of TA cranks or crank arms. I hoping to find some in nice shape. 170mm arm length. I have stuff to trade or cash if you prefer. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: Possibly a nice shoe for clips 'n' straps and no-retention pedals

2014-06-27 Thread Brian Campbell
I had a pair of the Chrome Kursk(?) low top shoes and found that they ran a bit small. They made my feet sweat like the dickens and also get really cold in winter weather. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe

[RBW] Re: Jamboree and Entmoot shirts and patches

2014-06-27 Thread Marc Irwin
Yeah, me too, what you said. On Friday, June 27, 2014 11:52:27 AM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: Etsy does a check (via Google's ubiquitous eyes everywhere?) to confirm you are attending the Entmoot and only then processing your order. Grin. Like Shoji, I orders via Etsy and wish I could go

[RBW] XD2 vs. XD600 which should i get?

2014-06-27 Thread lungimsam
Building up my NOS Bleriot I got from Peter White. LBS having a time getting XD2 in 170mm arms for me, said the 600 is available with same toothcounts and the 170 crank arms. Any reason to hold out for an XD2, or just get the XD600? What's the diff? They look the same. -- You received this

Re: [RBW] XD2 vs. XD600 which should i get?

2014-06-27 Thread Patrick Moore
XD2 available here: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/cr1.htm or here: http://www.treefortbikes.com/product/333222346780/119/Sugino-XD600-26-and-36-and-46-Triple.html?gclid=CK3do4n4mr8CFQmsaQodi4IA0Q if you want it cheaper. On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 2:46 PM, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:

[RBW] Re: WTB/WTT: TA Pro Vis 5 Crankset or Arms

2014-06-27 Thread Andrew Marchant-Shapiro
Do they have to be genuine TA? I just picked up a set of Sugino PX with lots of TA rings from another iBOB. You might look at those as an alternative... In any event, I have a bunch of extra rings, so email me if you can only find arms. I may have what you need. On Friday, June 27, 2014

[RBW] Re: WTB/WTT: TA Pro Vis 5 Crankset or Arms

2014-06-27 Thread Brian Campbell
No. Sugino or Stronglight would work as well. Thanks! On Friday, June 27, 2014 5:22:39 PM UTC-4, Andrew Marchant-Shapiro wrote: Do they have to be genuine TA? I just picked up a set of Sugino PX with lots of TA rings from another iBOB. You might look at those as an alternative... In

[RBW] Re: XD2 vs. XD600 which should i get?

2014-06-27 Thread Garth
They're the same crank , different logos. Riv calls it the XD2 because they take the arms(crown logo) only and put on Sugino basic rings(no ramps or pins), and sell it as a crankset. The XD600 is a stock complete crank(Sugino logo), with ramped and pinned Sugino rings. I'm not sure of the

Re: [RBW] FS: Used 54cm Soma San Marcos (SoCal)

2014-06-27 Thread Tim Gavin
Tony- I'd argue that you increased its value by grinding off those lawyer tabs. I use a fork mount rack in my pickup bed, and my Riv goes on easy peasy. Every time I load up my girlfriend's San Marcos I curse those tabs. One of these days, they have got to go. She absolutely loves the bike

[RBW] Re: XD2 vs. XD600 which should i get?

2014-06-27 Thread Garth
Oh yes . . . and for even le$$ :) https://www.ebikestop.com/sugino_xd600_78_speed_170mm_263646t_74110mm_crankset_bottom_bracket_not_included-CR1030.php -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [RBW] RBW 20th Anniversary Gathering and Entmoot -- SF Bay edition

2014-06-27 Thread Hugh Smitham
Hey Jim, Mr. Andy Smitty Schmidt will be attending. ~Hugh On Jun 25, 2014 8:52 PM, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: Here are the good Shire folk who have RSVP'ed so far, with the volunteers listed first. I have not listed all of the RBW staff who are attending, but rest assured it's a good

[RBW] PDX Grant Petersen tonight at 7

2014-06-27 Thread William!
Hadn't seen this posted, thought I'd share. I am not the organizer. Belmont Food Carts, SE 43rd Belmont [image: Take Trimet] http://trimet.org/go/cgi-bin/plantrip.cgi?to=SE+43rd+%26+Belmontby=6:45+p.m.on=06/27/14 6:45pm - 9:45pm, We roll at 7. Bring lights. *GP designed or influenced bikes

[RBW] Re: Jamboree and Entmoot shirts and patches

2014-06-27 Thread Philip Williamson
Hi Marc, All are welcome to order shirts and patches, wear them and sew them, and fly their Ent/Riv flags proudly, whether they're coming to the event or not. My feeling is that we are an internet bike club with a distributed membership, and we participate in spirit, if we can't participate

Re: [RBW] Vittoria Voyager/Hyper Tires . . . . . . Oooh Lah Lah !

2014-06-27 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
How would you compare the Hypers to the Barlow Pass tires? Are the BP's enough of an improvement to justify replacing a good set of Hypers? I'm riding the 32mm Hypers (actual width 34mm on Dyad rims) and my next set will either be the 38mm Hypers or the 38mm Compass tire (is that the Barlow

[RBW] Quickbeam Virtual Entmoot

2014-06-27 Thread Deacon Patrick
I'm pulling Philip's (Bike Tinkerer's) idea from a different thread. I plan on riding my Quickbeam Saturday, July 12 in solidarity with those at China Beach et al, and, as Philip mentions, it would be great to have as many Quickbeams out being hasty (by ent standards) to join in, no matter

Re: [RBW] Re: Jamboree and Entmoot shirts and patches

2014-06-27 Thread Mike Williams
Thanks Philip!! Sent from my iPhone On Jun 27, 2014, at 6:41 PM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Marc, All are welcome to order shirts and patches, wear them and sew them, and fly their Ent/Riv flags proudly, whether they're coming to the event or not. My

[RBW] FS NIB Park TM1 spoke tension meter

2014-06-27 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
I bought this 6 months ago and never used it, probably never will. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000OZDIGY/ref=ox_ya_os_product_refresh_T1 I did open the box to look at it but that's as far as I got. It's yours for $60 shipped It goes for $71 on Amazon. Jay -- You received this message

[RBW] Re: A few Legolas June rides in western Colorado

2014-06-27 Thread 'Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch
I am in Grand Junction Patrick. On Friday, June 27, 2014 10:08:13 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: Great pictures, Joe! You are right, that gearing is perfect for all but loaded single track. You out of Denver? With abandon, Patrick On Friday, June 27, 2014 9:59:38 AM UTC-6, Mojo wrote:

[RBW] Re: One reason I love my Sam Hillborne

2014-06-27 Thread John Stowe
I also use Strava (why does that feel like a confession?), but more because I find it interesting to look back at my mileage - the only social thing I've done on the site is join the OCCUPYSTRAVA http://www.strava.com/clubs/occupystrava group, which was started as a reaction to Strava's heat