[RBW] Bosco Bullmoose opinions

2014-10-18 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
I have a 58cm Hunqapillar with standard Bullmoose bars but I guess I'm not so crazy about them. My main bike is my Hilsen. The Hunq I ride a few miles to local trails and on the trails, which vary from dirt fire road type to single track. As with any mountain bike I've ever ridden the Bullmoose

Re: [RBW] Bosco Bullmoose opinions

2014-10-18 Thread Goshen Peter
You have a pic of the current setup? On Oct 18, 2014 9:35 AM, 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote: I have a 58cm Hunqapillar with standard Bullmoose bars but I guess I'm not so crazy about them. My main bike is my Hilsen. The Hunq I ride a few miles to local

[RBW] Re: Bosco Bullmoose opinions

2014-10-18 Thread Brian Campbell
I use these with my bull moose bars: http://www.modernbike.com/product-2126181813?gclid=Cj0KEQjwn4iiBRDFh76wlfCVuYABEiQAwWJ1Ija0HAwA9DTth7a6uZx84JbEzCaFHR11bWp00GflVZ0aAmZZ8P8HAQ I found the standard cork grips did not support my wrists and caused pain. I also have the bars up, about level with

[RBW] Re: Bosco Bullmoose opinions

2014-10-18 Thread Deacon Patrick
Hey Tim! Dialing in the handlebars can make a HUGE difference in the bike and is well worth experimenting with. My suggestions are: -- Play with what you can with you current set up. Bar height, etc. Hand numbness is typically due to bars being low and/or an angle of hand position that doesn't

[RBW] Bosco Bullmoose opinions

2014-10-18 Thread Marc Irwin
I use the bullmoose bosco bars and have no problem with numbness. In the past I've had problems with anything resembling a straight bar. Even riding on the flats on a drop bar will cause numbness. I don't have the problem with Bosco or Albatross bars. Marc -- You received this message

[RBW] Re: Bosco Bullmoose opinions

2014-10-18 Thread 'Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch
I haven't used a bullmoose type bar since the 1980s. I personally don't see the advantage of having the stem and bar welded together. I at times change bars on my offroad bikes and different bars require different length stems. I suppose if the bullmoose stem-bar system happens to work for you,

Re: [RBW] Re: Bosco Bullmoose opinions

2014-10-18 Thread Dan McNamara
The Ergon grips are definitely worth a try. I have them on the Bombadil with Boscos and on On-One Mary bars with the RockHopper/Xtracycle. They helped with hand numbness on both bikes. I have not tried them on the bullmoose bars but on planning to soon. Want to try the Bomba with bars that

Re: [RBW] Re: Surly after Riv

2014-10-18 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I agree with Steve P about the idea of being associated with a brand persona. I'm not really sure that Surly's current marketing is all that crazy though, is it? What I've seen is mostly touting their products' technical attributes and capabilities. Maybe it's perceived as more abrasive than it

[RBW] Bike and Hatchet First Aid

2014-10-18 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Since early August I've had or have been close to others with some bad luck on the bike and using a hatchet... I've been over the handlebars twice and then this weekend a good friend put one of my axes (fiskars x15) into his knee while splitting wood. All's well in each case thank goodness

Re: [RBW] Re: Bosco Bullmoose opinions

2014-10-18 Thread cyclotourist
Another vote for trying the Ergons. If that doesn't help, also consider Moustache/Albastache bars. They are much better for trail and singletrack descents than upright bars (IMHO). On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Dan McNamara djmcnam...@gmail.com wrote: The Ergon grips are definitely worth a

Re: [RBW] Bike and Hatchet First Aid

2014-10-18 Thread Curtis McKenzie
Glad to hear all is ok. It is prudent to be aware of what could happen and to be prepared. I carry a few band aides, tape, and some gauze along with my towel and Irish straps. My towel and Irish straps could be used for any number of potential injury situations. My goal is airway, circulation

Re: [RBW] Bike and Hatchet First Aid

2014-10-18 Thread Anne Paulson
You shouldn't need a tourniquet for an axe wound to the knee! Tourniquets are for extreme situations like amputations. If you use them in non-extreme situations, you may well end up with an amputation. I just recently took a Wilderness First Aid course (highly recommended). The instructor was

[RBW] Clem on the Blug

2014-10-18 Thread Johan Larsson
I would prefer a 650b tire on the 59 cm size as well. There are no equivalents of the Hetre and Babyshoe tires in 700c - the only available wide road 700c tires are very heavy and slow in comparison. Johan Larsson, Sweden -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[RBW] Re: Bosco Bullmoose opinions

2014-10-18 Thread jtallman
Tim, I also have a 58cm Hunqapillar and have tried many handlebars. I started out with flipped albatross, then regular albatross, bullmoose, noodles, and now currently, bosco bars. Current setup here: https://flic.kr/p/pqSJqk I liked the noodles, but the top tube length was just too long even

Re: [RBW] Re: Soon to arrive new to me and first Riv. Bombadil

2014-10-18 Thread Scott
Hello Mike Please include me in your future mixed terrain rides and s24o's Cheers Scott Sent from my phone On Oct 13, 2014, at 12:20 PM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: oh yea... there are a number of us who live in SoCal and get together for mixed terrain rides and

Re: [RBW] Re: Surly after Riv

2014-10-18 Thread Daniel D.
If I like the clem after a test ride I'll deal with the stigma :p On Friday, October 17, 2014 1:28:35 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: And yet, if a company's advertising/perceived attitude is strong enough, bystanders will associate anyone displaying or using one of their products with

[RBW] Re: What's the safety rule for metal fender size/clearance?

2014-10-18 Thread John Phillips
What is the fattest slick these wipers will fit? Thanks, John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

Re: [RBW] Re: Surly after Riv

2014-10-18 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
You can always remove decals... What kind of bike is that? Steel ? Just in case some folks didn't know, Surly is a brand (like Salsa now, among others) owned by QBP (Quality Bicycle Products) which is the largest wholesaler of bike parts accessories within the US. That means that if

[RBW] Re: Bike and Hatchet First Aid

2014-10-18 Thread Deacon Patrick
Glad everyone is well! Anne is spot on: knowledge and level headedness trumps kit every time. My first aid kit contains: -- bandana (also used for a slew of other things, I've yet to use it for first aid in a real situation -- pocket knife -- Pipe ashes or pine needle dust with spit for

Re: [RBW] Re: Surly after Riv

2014-10-18 Thread Ron Mc
exactly Jim, Surly (and Salsa) is bringing steel bikes to mainstream bike shops - steel bikes that are something more than 3-speed cruisers. On Saturday, October 18, 2014 11:24:40 AM UTC-5, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: You can always remove decals... What kind of bike is that? Steel ?

Re: [RBW] Surly after Riv

2014-10-18 Thread Joe Broach
​ On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: Who else (i.e., large manufacturers with a presence in local bike shops) is even making touring bikes -- not cyclocross bikes -- these days? Used to be, the big names were Cannondale Trek but Cannondale left the

Re: [RBW] Bike and Hatchet First Aid

2014-10-18 Thread 'Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch
Nice post Anne. Thanks. On Saturday, October 18, 2014 9:20:34 AM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote: You shouldn't need a tourniquet for an axe wound to the knee! Tourniquets are for extreme situations like amputations. If you use them in non-extreme situations, you may well end up with an

Re: [RBW] Re: Surly after Riv

2014-10-18 Thread hsmitham
IMO it's a boon that a huge company like QBP is financially backing a group like Surly...not all can or want to support the mom pop companies, sometimes I just don't want to pay the premium. Not everyone wants to purchase a Mercedes, choosing rather to buy (insert brand) instead. I've had

Re: [RBW] Bike and Hatchet First Aid

2014-10-18 Thread cyclotourist
A towel is the most important thing to carry. On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Curtis McKenzie cmcy...@gmail.com wrote: Glad to hear all is ok. It is prudent to be aware of what could happen and to be prepared. I carry a few band aides, tape, and some gauze along with my towel and Irish

Re: [RBW] Bike and Hatchet First Aid

2014-10-18 Thread Patrick Moore
Good information; going to my archive. On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 12:08 PM, 'Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote: Nice post Anne. Thanks. On Saturday, October 18, 2014 9:20:34 AM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote: You shouldn't need a tourniquet for an axe wound to the

Re: [RBW] Clem on the Blug

2014-10-18 Thread Eric Daume
Except for the Barlow Pass. And in a bit of an apples to oranges comparison, I didn't think my 26 Compass tires were any better than my (much, much cheaper) 700 x 35 Paselas. Eric On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 3:20 AM, Johan Larsson seven.nau...@gmail.com wrote: I would prefer a 650b tire on the 59

[RBW] OK to mix and match front racks/decalers/bags?

2014-10-18 Thread lungimsam
I need to get a front rack. But I was wondering, since I am going to use it with a front bag, do I need to have everything a matching set? I have heard someone say it is best to match the components, like either get all VO, or all Berthoud, etc. I am guessing mixing and matching is fine but

Re: [RBW] Clem on the Blug

2014-10-18 Thread Patrick Moore
Someone else (or perhaps Eric on an earlier occasion) opined the same, which makes me sit up because I have been toying with the thought of seeing whether the 559X1.5s might not fit under the crown of my Riv customs. Can anyone confirm or, in the event, describe other experience? After all, there

[RBW] Re: Bosco Bullmoose opinions

2014-10-18 Thread Joe Bernard
I had the same problem with non-Bosco Bullmoose bars. My hands will tolerate straight or straight-back bars, but not the inbetween angle like Bullmoose and the old Bridgestone Arc. For dirt riding you might want to try regular-old straight mtb bars. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Saturday,

[RBW] Re: OK to mix and match front racks/decalers/bags?

2014-10-18 Thread Andrew Marchant-Shapiro
Bullcrap. I *do* have a VO decaleur ('cause it was cheap) and a VO Rack, but the bag comes from Ostrich, and isn't even made to use a decaleur... On Saturday, October 18, 2014 3:21:53 PM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote: I need to get a front rack. But I was wondering, since I am going to use it

[RBW] Re: new to me Redwood - unpack/ride

2014-10-18 Thread Joe Bernard
That's a fine bicycle..I had the smaller Romulus and loved it. That green is beautiful. You might need an mtb rear derailer for an 11-30 cassette. That 105 is rated to 27 teeth, which* might* work, but I kinda doubt it. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Monday, October 13, 2014 9:45:41 AM UTC-7,

[RBW] Re: OK to mix and match front racks/decalers/bags?

2014-10-18 Thread Ron Mc
any decaleur will work with any bag. Decide what design of decaleur you prefer. I have a Nitto rack with a Bertaud decaleur with an Acorn bag. I like the way the Bertaud decaleur works, and I like the way it looks when a bag isn't mounted - it's unobtrusive here's the decaleur with an

[RBW] Re: Bosco Bullmoose opinions

2014-10-18 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Tim: I have a several sets of the Riv Bullmoose, and after trying out the Bosco Bullmoose bars (really cool) I just couldn't get used to them and went back to the Bullmoose... which are my all-time fave. Brian: AWESOME SETUP on that High Sierra!!! BB -- You received this message because

Re: [RBW] Re: OK to mix and match front racks/decalers/bags?

2014-10-18 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 10/18/2014 05:31 PM, Ron Mc wrote: any decaleur will work with any bag. Decide what design of decaleur you prefer. Provided it fits, that is. There is but a narrow range of heights that will work with any particular frame size handlebar position. Basically, how tall your head tube is

Re: [RBW] Re: OK to mix and match front racks/decalers/bags?

2014-10-18 Thread Ron Mc
yes, probably what I have on my tall bike is the only combination that will work - an 11-inch-tall bag. I mentioned on one of Mark's threads before how I measured to determine which decaleur length, and also showed how I used leather washers on the Bertaud to prevent it from ever coming lose

[RBW] Re: Bosco Bullmoose opinions

2014-10-18 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Tim: I have a several sets of the Riv Bullmoose, and after trying out the Bosco Bullmoose bars (really cool) I just couldn't get used to them and went back to the Bullmoose... which are my all-time fave. Brian: AWESOME SETUP on that High Sierra!!! BB -- You received this message because

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike and Hatchet First Aid

2014-10-18 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 10/18/2014 12:41 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: Glad everyone is well! Anne is spot on: knowledge and level headedness trumps kit every time. My first aid kit contains: -- bandana (also used for a slew of other things, I've yet to use it for first aid in a real situation -- pocket knife --

Re: [RBW] Re: Surly after Riv

2014-10-18 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 10/17/2014 05:29 PM, Daniel D. wrote: If I like the clem after a test ride I'll deal with the stigma :p On Friday, October 17, 2014 1:28:35 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: And yet, if a company's advertising/perceived attitude is strong enough, bystanders will associate

[RBW] Re: Winter Riding Pants

2014-10-18 Thread Michael Hechmer
This looks like what I had in mind, but their website says pretty much the same thing about every item and the photos are too small to see clearly. Gotta think about it. Hi of 45 for tomorrow, so it looks like indian summer is over. Michael On Friday, October 17, 2014 8:42:06 PM UTC-4, Kevin

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike and Hatchet First Aid

2014-10-18 Thread Deacon Patrick
Bikepacking. Fire = hot meal and drink and warm toasty feeling. With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, October 18, 2014 4:10:07 PM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote: Seriously, what do you need with a hatchet on a bike ride? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[RBW] Re: Winter Riding Pants

2014-10-18 Thread Deacon Patrick
High of 45 IS indian summer. Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

Re: [RBW] Re: Winter Riding Pants

2014-10-18 Thread cyclotourist
When it drops below 60F, I stay inside! Brrr On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: High of 45 IS indian summer. Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group.

[RBW] Re: FS: XL Blue Flannel Tan HAR Bags

2014-10-18 Thread john muhl
One more try before it’s donated. $70 for the plush Riv Blue Flannel now w/ free shipping. http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/at35.htm?1=1CartID=1 On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 6:22:12 PM UTC-5, john muhl wrote: $80 Flannel. Washed once and tried on but didn’t like the size. $120 HAR Bags.

Re: [RBW] Re: Surly after Riv

2014-10-18 Thread Eric Platt
A couple of days ago, someone asked what type of Dutch bike my Sam Hillborne was. He was quite serious and shocked when I informed him the bike was modern and designed in California. This was actually the first time I'd been on a trip up to Grand Marais, MN with a Rivendell. Previous trips had

Re: [RBW] Clem on the Blug

2014-10-18 Thread Eric Platt
I was not as thrilled with the Compass 26x1.75 on my Long Haul Trucker as the Schwalbe Kojak tires they replaced. They are better than Big Apples. Not saying they are bad tires, they're not bad. Quite good. My personal preference is for something even wider. Especially on that bike. As to the

Re: [RBW] Clem on the Blug

2014-10-18 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks for the perspective. With choices for 650C (see)/571 bsd shrinking (just last year IIRC Michelin offered its Pro Race in a 650C X 25; now just the 23) I want to bank options for good 559 road tires. Me, my road bikes are road bikes -- 42 mm tires are hard and skinny in the sandy soil I ride

Re: [RBW] Re: Winter Riding Pants

2014-10-18 Thread Patrick Moore
Oh, you lose too much riding time! I'm no Deacon Patrick, but I'm good on a sunny, not too windy day, down to the upper teens in dry NM winter. 60F is just perfect riding weather -- wool really comes into its own when the temp drops below 65F. On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 4:56 PM, cyclotourist

Re: [RBW] Re: Winter Riding Pants

2014-10-18 Thread cyclotourist
I think it only gets into the 50s for three or four days of the year, so nope, not missing too much... :-) On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 5:54 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, you lose too much riding time! I'm no Deacon Patrick, but I'm good on a sunny, not too windy day, down to the

Re: [RBW] Re: Winter Riding Pants

2014-10-18 Thread Shawn Granton
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 6:58 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I think it only gets into the 50s for three or four days of the year, so nope, not missing too much... Would that be defined as a Polar Vortex then? ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed

Re: [RBW] Re: Winter Riding Pants

2014-10-18 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 10/18/2014 09:58 PM, cyclotourist wrote: I think it only gets into the 50s for three or four days of the year, so nope, not missing too much... :-) Where are you located? Hawaii? On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 5:54 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com mailto:bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

[RBW] Re: Bike and Hatchet First Aid

2014-10-18 Thread Howard H
I carry a few 2 gauze bandages, some large (2 x 4) and medium band aids, and a couple of gloves in a small zip-lock bag. I should probably add some antibiotic ointment. Luckily I've only had to use my kit once, when a small group of roadies in a tight group crashed in a pile about 50 feet in

Re: [RBW] Re: Winter Riding Pants

2014-10-18 Thread Patrick Moore
Et in arcadia ego On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 7:58 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I think it only gets into the 50s for three or four days of the year, so nope, not missing too much... :-) On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 5:54 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, you

Re: [RBW] Re: Winter Riding Pants

2014-10-18 Thread Patrick Moore
That's Arcadia, CA, of course. On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 8:11 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Et in arcadia ego On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 7:58 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I think it only gets into the 50s for three or four days of the year, so nope, not

Re: [RBW] Re: Surly after Riv

2014-10-18 Thread cyclotourist
I think the growth and acceptance of large tire sizes definitely happened on Grant's/Rivendell's watch and he can humbly take the majority of credit for it. He obviously didn't invent the concept of a demi-ballon tire, and others were working in tandem (Jan, Surly, etc), but in modern mainstream

Re: [RBW] Re: Winter Riding Pants

2014-10-18 Thread cyclotourist
I kid, I kid... but really, I have the opposite problem: I can't ride in the summer as the temps are 100F+ and somewhat humid. I have to time my rides so I can be done before it hits 90F!! SoCal is the opposite of most of the country in SO many ways... :-) On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 7:12 PM,

Re: [RBW] Winter Riding Pants

2014-10-18 Thread Dan A
I second the vote for Foxwear. Lou makes great stuff with custom sizing at very reasonable prices. Dan Abelson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

[RBW] thump thump of supple tires

2014-10-18 Thread Michael Williams
Allright group, I have an inquiry regarding a thump-thump Ive experienced pretty much only with supple( 120tpi) tires and this seems like the place to get some possible answers. Im usually not nitpicky, but this is VERY noticeable. Every variable is the same: Tubes, tire pressure, rim,

[RBW] Re: Bike and Hatchet First Aid

2014-10-18 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Thanks guys and gal! Great input as usual. For clarification my bike and hatchet incidents were isolated from each other... I only included them in one post because of the relatively short amount of time between them and Riv's BBH storefront making both topical. I think I'll stick to the

Re: [RBW] thump thump of supple tires

2014-10-18 Thread Tim McNamara
On Oct 18, 2014, at 10:44 PM, Michael Williams mkernanwilli...@gmail.com wrote: Allright group, I have an inquiry regarding a thump-thump Ive experienced pretty much only with supple( 120tpi) tires and this seems like the place to get some possible answers. Im usually not nitpicky,

[RBW] Quick Photo Set for Kelso - San Francisco ride

2014-10-18 Thread Ty Graham
Hi, Here's a quick photo set from my 925 mile trip ending this last week. On my Atlantis. I'm still working on a blog post, but this can fill the gaps. I moteled it the whole way, so had a lighter load than most of the folks I ran into. Everything fit into my Sackville Large and Acorn Rando

[RBW] Re: Bike and Hatchet First Aid

2014-10-18 Thread DS
Sorry to hear Tony. Accidents out riding are never fun. Had a fellow rider take a spill on a dirt trail last weekend and ended up with 30+ stitches between two arms after getting torn up by some rocks on his way down. Good thing we both had med kits. Lots of gauze and tape were used, as well as