Re: [RBW] How are albatross and albastache bars for long distance riding?

2015-06-19 Thread Ron Mc
What should be obvious is that virtually everyone posting on this thread has different experiences, and that is the only consensus. I have no use for noodles, and like Cinelli 64 as my favorite drops. There are two post adjacent posts where one says alba is more comfortable than drop on

Re: [RBW] Re: U-LOCK TOTE ??

2015-06-19 Thread Jon Dukeman
Thanks Minh..That's good to know! I got my Pass and Stow rack..love it! On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote: if you're handy, there are a few diy guides to make your own https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instantion=1espv=2ie=UTF-8#q=diy+u+lock+holster

Re: [RBW] Re: U-LOCK TOTE ??

2015-06-19 Thread Jon Dukeman
Hmmm I just happen to have a Med Shopsack:) On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 10:15 PM, Tony DeFilippo vpi...@gmail.com wrote: Sackville Med fits everything... :) It is pretty slick looking though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners

Re: [RBW] How are albatross and albastache bars for long distance riding?

2015-06-19 Thread Clayton.sf
Best distance upright bar for me is the bosco. You can get aero on them or upright the range is huge. Personally I still like drops better for long spirited rides (200K plus), but have no issue riding a century with upright bars. The other thing to consider is that bars don't exist in a

[RBW] WTB: 68cm Atlantis

2015-06-19 Thread Kelly
Just keeping my name out there as looking. :) Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

[RBW] Re: U-LOCK TOTE ??

2015-06-19 Thread bo richardson
Abus germany makes something similar for cable locks. i ordered one and then realized it was probably too small for straight cables and meant only for coiled cable locks. will know all when it arrives. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners

[RBW] Re: U-LOCK TOTE ??

2015-06-19 Thread Irving
Ely at Ruthworks makes a pretty cool lookin' U-Lock holster: http://www.ruthworkssf.com/options-menu.html On Thursday, June 18, 2015 at 7:30:05 PM UTC-7, Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado wrote: Anyone use one of these? Or do you put your U-LOCK in your bag? Jon

Re: [RBW] How are albatross and albastache bars for long distance riding?

2015-06-19 Thread Jeremy Till
I've had very good experiences over the past couple of years riding long distances (up to about 90 miles/day, and a week long, ~500 mile tour with plenty of climbing) with upright bars, mostly 58cm Boscos. I totally agree with Ron and Clayton: just like with drop bars, set up matters, and every

Re: [RBW] Re: 63cm Canti-Romulus part out

2015-06-19 Thread Joe Broach
Disclaimer: my canti-rom's been my main bike for 10 years With that out of the way: Somebody snap this up. I don't know why the Roms seem to be the ugly duckling Rivs from a resell standpoint. This is a Toyo-Japan built frame for seven hundred bucks. The year is 2015. Lugged Taiwanese frames

[RBW] Re: How are albatross and albastache bars for long distance riding?

2015-06-19 Thread hsmitham
Read all the posts and agree with Garth. There are just so many variables. Here are my experiences. On my 58cm Hilsen in 2013 I toured from SF to Paso with noddle bars and found it adequate, they really made it difficult on a slow loaded climb as it was difficult to keep the load under

[RBW] FS On One Midge, Nitto Periscopa, Brake Levers

2015-06-19 Thread EGNolan
Short Sweet just like the title suggests. I've got a dirt drop cockpit for sale. I just don't like drops on 95% of my riding (commuting, riding w/ kids, errand runs) so these have to go. I'd prefer to sell it as a set, but can sell separately if needed. The On-One Midge's are white, have

[RBW] WTB: 68cm Atlantis

2015-06-19 Thread Kieran J
Ah, the proverbial White Rhino -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

[RBW] Re: WTB: 68cm Atlantis

2015-06-19 Thread Kelly
Well they do come up on occasion and saw where someone got one off eBay that I never even saw.. dang it. :) So figured I'ld make sure everyone knew I was a looking still.Guess worst case scenario is over the same geometry from waterford myself. On Friday, June 19, 2015 at 7:51:37 PM

Re: [RBW] How are albatross and albastache bars for long distance riding?

2015-06-19 Thread Mark Reimer
I found the Albatross bars on my Atlantis not really ideal for long distance for a few reasons: - When riding at a casual pace, they are supremely comfortable. Very 'chill' one could say. I had them setup about 1cm above my saddle height. I had two good hand position options, and one more

[RBW] Re: How are albatross and albastache bars for long distance riding?

2015-06-19 Thread Matthew J
My tour bike has Albatross bars. Set up with top of the stem slightly above the saddle and the bars angled slightly down. This bike uses fore and aft low rider racks. Other than my corpse and a small saddle bag to store my wallet, snack, and a map, no non-bike weight above the top of the

[RBW] Re: How are albatross and albastache bars for long distance riding?

2015-06-19 Thread Garth
Bars are bars , how you choose to use them is infinite :) So is the frame , infinite ways to set one up . So no one can fully answer your question but you , *know thyself *! Think about pictures of Sam frames or Alba bars . It seems most set them up all similar ways on

Re: [RBW] How are albatross and albastache bars for long distance riding?

2015-06-19 Thread Steven Sweedler
Matthew, any pics of your bike loaded up, epecially the rear low rider. Thanks, Steve On Friday, June 19, 2015, Matthew J matthewj...@gmail.com wrote: My tour bike has Albatross bars. Set up with top of the stem slightly above the saddle and the bars angled slightly down. This bike uses fore

Re: [RBW] FS Sturmey Archer S3X and other bits

2015-06-19 Thread Patrick Moore
John: I'm waiting for a S3X wheel to be built, and I'm curious: what didn't you like about yours? On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 4:00 PM, 'john elliott' via RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote: Hi, I have a Sturmey Archer S3X that I bought for my Rivendell Quickbeam. Its put

Re: [RBW] How are albatross and albastache bars for long distance riding?

2015-06-19 Thread Ron Mc
Steve, I've ridden 55 and 65 mi on this bike this year, but a 38 mi ride is enough to find those little annoying circulation pinches. Long is relative. Especially on an upright, add a good headwind (18-22 kt earlier this week) and 26 mi is a long ride. On Friday, June 19, 2015 at 6:22:17

Re: [RBW] How are albatross and albastache bars for long distance riding?

2015-06-19 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 06/19/2015 07:31 AM, Ron Mc wrote: (challenging others on the forum is not cool) When you say long rides, what sort of distance do you have in mind? Was that 38 mile ride a long ride? That's not a challenge, it's a request for information, to understand your

Re: [RBW] How are albatross and albastache bars for long distance riding?

2015-06-19 Thread Ron Mc
fair enough - I tweaked my knee on the 26-mi ride earlier this week. climbing hard and steady against that headwind. So I started out the 38-mi ride with a tweaked knee. I did eat a motrin at my water stops, but made the ride without knee pain and, particularly nice, no saddle, shoulder or

Re: [RBW] How are albatross and albastache bars for long distance riding?

2015-06-19 Thread Ron Mc
Pressure (eliminating it) is the entire key to riding distance. . When we were young, we didn't lean on the bars, we pulled on them. Even now, we should be supporting ourselves with our core muscles, not our hands and shoulders. I've ridden over 100 mi for the week - longest stint was 38 mi

Re: [RBW] How are albatross and albastache bars for long distance riding?

2015-06-19 Thread Ron Mc
(challenging others on the forum is not cool) When you say long rides, what sort of distance do you have in mind? Was that 38 mile ride a long ride? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and

Re: [RBW] How are albatross and albastache bars for long distance riding?

2015-06-19 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 06/19/2015 07:04 AM, Ron Mc wrote: Pressure (eliminating it) is the entire key to riding distance. . When we were young, we didn't lean on the bars, we pulled on them. Even now, we should be supporting ourselves with our core muscles, not our hands and shoulders. I've ridden over 100 mi

Re: [RBW] How are albatross and albastache bars for long distance riding?

2015-06-19 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 06/19/2015 07:29 AM, Ron Mc wrote: Steve, I've ridden 55 and 65 mi on this bike this year, but a 38 mi ride is enough to find those little annoying circulation pinches. Long is relative. Especially on an upright, add a good headwind (18-22 kt earlier this week) and 26 mi is a long ride. I

Re: [RBW] How are albatross and albastache bars for long distance riding?

2015-06-19 Thread Ron Mc
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/Viner/aP6160005.jpg ps - both the 26 and 38 were wet rides with TS Bill fallout, and wet sandy pavement always loads you down On Friday, June 19, 2015 at 7:06:00 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: fair enough - I tweaked my knee on the 26-mi

[RBW] How are albatross and albastache bars for long distance riding?

2015-06-19 Thread drew
I'm currently on day 3 of my first tour with albas. I did a short tour with drops and was very uncomfortable, so I switched to upright bars and the conversion felt great. To mark's point, the great feeling is really limited to casual riding. I'm finding that out. I can't find a position I like

Re: [RBW] How are albatross and albastache bars for long distance riding?

2015-06-19 Thread Kieran J
These are basically all the reasons why I think the Albastache is superior to the Albatross as a drop-bar alternative. It is somewhere in between Albas and drops and - in my opinion - combines the advantages of both. KJ On Friday, June 19, 2015 at 10:14:58 AM UTC-4, Mark Reimer wrote: I

[RBW] Re: How are albatross and albastache bars for long distance riding?

2015-06-19 Thread Ginz
I've done many 45 mile rides with the Albatross and Bullmoose and I rarely ride much further than that in one day. I do not have a bike with drop bars. I gave up on them years ago. I'm 5'4. My arms and torso are short, so the distance between the tops and the hoods is too great --- if one

Re: [RBW] How are albatross and albastache bars for long distance riding?

2015-06-19 Thread Matthew J
I've heard a lot of good about the Albastache bars. Think I will have to give them a try. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] How are albatross and albastache bars for long distance riding?

2015-06-19 Thread Matthew J
any pics of your bike loaded up, epecially the rear low rider. I fear I am the un-photographer and have not yet photographed the bike on the move. Here are pictures https://www.flickr.com/photos/22538785@N05/sets/72157644990725641 right after the build. I load the bags backward - Brooks

Re: [RBW] How are albatross and albastache bars for long distance riding?

2015-06-19 Thread Ron Mc
wow Matthew, beautiful ride and great work On Friday, June 19, 2015 at 9:34:56 AM UTC-5, Matthew J wrote: any pics of your bike loaded up, epecially the rear low rider. I fear I am the un-photographer and have not yet photographed the bike on the move. Here are pictures

Re: [RBW] How are albatross and albastache bars for long distance riding?

2015-06-19 Thread Ron Mc
The one thing moustache bar gives you over hoods is tremendous brake leverage, but you have that with albas, also On Friday, June 19, 2015 at 9:36:28 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: I agree with everything Mark posted, and also agree with Kieran that the 'stache should be a more versatile bar,

Re: [RBW] WTB: Chris King Cages

2015-06-19 Thread Curtis McKenzie
I apologies for my poor post. Looking for two Iris King cages. Curtis to reads but seldom starts a post McKenzie On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Dan McNamara djmcnam...@gmail.com wrote: Assuming King Cage, which style are you looking for? Dan On Jun 18, 2015, at 9:55 PM, cyclotourist

Re: [RBW] How are albatross and albastache bars for long distance riding?

2015-06-19 Thread Ron Mc
I agree with everything Mark posted, and also agree with Kieran that the 'stache should be a more versatile bar, because of a wider range of hand positions. However, what I have found is those different hand positions don't change my back position - they just spread my arms around. I have

Re: [RBW] How are albatross and albastache bars for long distance riding?

2015-06-19 Thread Matthew J
wow Matthew, beautiful ride and great work Thank you. There is (sort of) an RBWOB connection. Eric used late '80s Ibis geometry as his starting point. Our host Jim appears to be a fan! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To

[RBW] Re: 63cm Canti-Romulus part out

2015-06-19 Thread lukeheller
Don't be intimated by this 63cm frame, it's not just for Giants. I am 6' with a 34 inseam and 87cm PBH. KNOW YOUR PBH and use the force. IIRC the ST is 61 center to center, can check when home if that helps. I usually ride 58-60cm frames but the 63cm Romulus fit me well. Selling to make room

[RBW] Re: How are albatross and albastache bars for long distance riding?

2015-06-19 Thread EGNolan
I haven't ridden the albastache, but love Alba's for commuting/around town riding. I honestly prefer the Bosco's for longer rides as they give the upright ride, but also multiple hand positions that are truly valid. Best, Eric On Friday, June 19, 2015 at 11:11:52 AM UTC-4, drew wrote: I'm

[RBW] wtb: Rivendell Atlantis - 58cm

2015-06-19 Thread Eric
Looking for a 58cm Atlantis. Frame fork...or complete. Looking for one with mid-fork eyelets. Thanks!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] WTB: Chris King Cages

2015-06-19 Thread cyclotourist
We're watching out for ya! King Iris are the best cages ever! On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 7:35 AM, Curtis McKenzie cmcy...@gmail.com wrote: I apologies for my poor post. Looking for two Iris King cages. Curtis to reads but seldom starts a post McKenzie On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Dan

Re: [RBW] How are albatross and albastache bars for long distance riding?

2015-06-19 Thread Matthew J
Is it worth pointing out that drop bars, even more so than upright bars, come in a wide variety of sizes and shapes, and that the details of setup matter a great deal? I've tried a lot of bars. And, as I always carry at least my Park Y allen wrench with me, am not shy about readjusting to

Re: [RBW] How are albatross and albastache bars for long distance riding?

2015-06-19 Thread Mark Reimer
+1 Personally, the older style drops where the bars drop down before you hit the hoods are totally not compatible with my hands. Think 70s and 80s road bikes. Modern drops where you have a nearly horizontal flat section right into the hoods, and then the bars drop, are fantastic for me. But the

Re: [RBW] How are albatross and albastache bars for long distance riding?

2015-06-19 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 06/19/2015 11:11 AM, drew wrote: I'm currently on day 3 of my first tour with albas. I did a short tour with drops and was very uncomfortable, so I switched to upright bars and the conversion felt great. To mark's point, the great feeling is really limited to casual riding. I'm finding that

Re: [RBW] How are albatross and albastache bars for long distance riding?

2015-06-19 Thread franklyn
I have ventured into non-drop bars--moustache, albatross, Sparrow, Jitensha bars, I find using non-drop bars keeps me in one back position and compresses my lower back. This is not an issue for short distance, but I really need to stretch my back out more (think downward facing dog). My wife,

[RBW] Re: U-LOCK TOTE ??

2015-06-19 Thread Minh
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[RBW] Re: How are albatross and albastache bars for long distance riding?

2015-06-19 Thread Matthew Snyder
I did a ~1200 mile tour with Albatross bars, set up just above saddle height. I was riding ~80 miles a day and felt extremely comfortable. I particularly enjoyed the feeling of touring while riding upright -- looking around felt much more natural. I found myself less fidgety than I typically

Re: [RBW] How are albatross and albastache bars for long distance riding?

2015-06-19 Thread Tim Gavin
I rode the entire RAGBRAI (~450 miles over 7 days) last year on moustache bars in a Nitto Dirt Drop 10 stem and bar-end Silver shifters. My experience with moustache bars parallels the experience of Albatross/Albastache/Moustache users here. I found the moustache bars to be excellent town and

[RBW] Re: Portland to San Luis Obispo

2015-06-19 Thread dougP
Curtis: The Ultimate Test Ride for the new bike! Let me know when you figure you'll hit SLO. If I'm in Arroyo Grande in early August I'll try to connect with you. Not sure of my summer schedule at this point. dougP On Thursday, June 18, 2015 at 9:37:40 PM UTC-7, Curtis wrote: Hey,