[RBW] FS 53cm Roadeo

2016-07-20 Thread Lungimsam
Whats the widest tire it will fit? What is the top tube length c-c? Standover height? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Family trip to Denver in August: ride suggestions/travel tips/kid equipment help?

2016-07-20 Thread John Stowe
Thanks to both of you! We haven't booked anything outside of Denver yet so the mountain towns are definitely a possibility and very appealing. As you say, we would get more out of leaving Denver that way. Route length/difficulty: My wife is OK with 20 mile outings, but starts to balk at a ride

[RBW] First S24O, on the C Canal

2016-07-20 Thread John Stowe
With my wife out of town for the week last week, to break up the full-time childcare marathon I decided to declare a camping trip for me and my 3 ("and a half!") year old son. The weather and open schedule lined up to set off Thursday afternoon. We camped with him last summer on a road trip, so

[RBW] FS 53cm Roadeo

2016-07-20 Thread Chad
How about $2500 shipped? Seat post and saddle not included. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

[RBW] Re: Roadini

2016-07-20 Thread Bill Lindsay
You spelled crabon wrong. The slogan is "it plainly planes!" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Roadini

2016-07-20 Thread Joe Bernard
Frank Jones Sr is the new low trail adventure bike with disc brakes and a carbon fork. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Roadini

2016-07-20 Thread Bill Lindsay
Maybe the Roadini will be the Frank Jones Sr. http://roscobubbe.tumblr.com/post/143358912901/rosco-1-sold-out I don't know either way, but Frank Jones Sr is enough of a thing that they have a headbadge for it. Maybe the Roadini is that thing? On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 5:57:12 PM UTC-7,

[RBW] Re: Roadini

2016-07-20 Thread Ron Mc
it's only 5 words, we need at lest 1000 or a picture On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 6:38:26 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: > > It's just a mention..literally no more than what's in my original post. > Enjoy, people who enjoy things! > > >

[RBW] Re: Roadini

2016-07-20 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
If you run Rivendell's bikes thru a trail calculator, you'll see that the more all-roundish bikes like the Atlantis, Bombadil & Hunqapillar have trail measurements in the mid 60's. The more roadish bikes, like the A.H.H., Sam and Roadeo all hover around 60. I think the head angles and rake

[RBW] Re: Roadini

2016-07-20 Thread Joe Bernard
It's just a mention..literally no more than what's in my original post. Enjoy, people who enjoy things! http://us1.campaign-archive1.com/?u=2090e897f8c7f8d7170a52bbd=d40c8150ac=e50f98992d -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

Re: [RBW] WTT: My 58 Atlantis for your 61 Atlantis

2016-07-20 Thread Mark Reimer
Any interest? Seems 58cm Atlantis' are in high demand. I'd also entertain an offer to buy the frame/fork out completely, and I'll find a 61cm on my own. On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 8:39:16 PM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote: > > 91cm-ish and 6' > > On Jul 19, 2016, at 8:27 PM, Daniel Jackson

Re: [RBW] WTT: My 58 Atlantis for your 61 Atlantis

2016-07-20 Thread Mark Reimer
Any interest? Seems 58cm Atlantis' are in high demand. I'd also entertain an offer to buy the frame/fork out completely, and I'll find a 61cm on my own. On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 8:27:12 PM UTC-5, Daniel Jackson wrote: > > Mark, what's your PBH and height? > > On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at

[RBW] Re: Roadini

2016-07-20 Thread Philip Kim
Well the reason I brought that up was because the Atlantis and older models had 40mm of rake, the Hunqapillar saw 48 and 50mm of rake, and the Appaloosa saw 52 and 54mm of rake. And they all have been around 71-71.5 degree head angles. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

[RBW] Re: Roadini

2016-07-20 Thread John Hawrylak
Can someone post a link to the e-mail. I get the normal e-mails, only a July sale, Hunqapillar item. Blug tlaks about low cadence pedaling. Is the REFERENCED e-mail some special one??? 7-4-7 STD tubing sounds great. The Rivendells with the 8-5-8 OS tubing are as stiff as 10-7-10 STD. John

[RBW] Re: Roadini

2016-07-20 Thread RichS
Enjoy the anticipation. Whatever we think Roadini might be or what we would like it to be it'll probably be altogether different! Richard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

Re: [RBW] Tandem Sizing Chart on the BLUG

2016-07-20 Thread Bill Lindsay
Yes, Ginz I think you are right, but more like captains under 5'6". Captains under 5'6" who pre-ordered probably should have a talk with the friendly Riv staff about whether they made a good choice. If they think you can't fit any of the sizes, they'll give your money back. The Small is not

Re: [RBW] Tandem Sizing Chart on the BLUG

2016-07-20 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
You can check the geometry chart out on the blog but I'm pretty sure the S will fit a 5'8 captain just fine. The chart shows a 10cm (4") difference between minimum and maximum saddle height for the capt (and a whopping 18cm difference for the stoker!) and Grant has mentioned that all but the

Re: [RBW] Tandem Sizing Chart on the BLUG

2016-07-20 Thread Ginz
Now how can a S be right for someone 5'10"? Isn't that excluding at least everyone under 5'8"? I guess that's the plan. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

[RBW] Re: Roadini

2016-07-20 Thread iamkeith
> He was never a believer in long stays either - until fairly recently. It's > not like it wouldn't make total sense as more Rivs are being front loaded, > including a lot of the staff. I don't foresee going completely low trail, > but I wouldn't be surprised if it was more mid to mid-high

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-07-20 Thread Tim Butterfield
Next update... I called RBW and was a bit surprised when Grant answered the phone. I know it's his company and he works there, but I didn't expect him to answer the phones. He said he fired everyone and sent them home. That changed when I asked if he wanted to take over my order from Roman.

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini

2016-07-20 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 07/20/2016 01:52 PM, Belopsky wrote: So get a custom $$$ one from Riv, or go to a builder who is a 'pro' at it Actually, the guy who builds the Riv customs also builds the Rene Herse bikes... and they're exactly what you want. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: [RBW] Tandem Sizing Chart on the BLUG

2016-07-20 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
And you want to be able to plant your feet wide for the stoker to mount and dismount, and to hold the stoker up when stopped. On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 3:36:48 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > On 07/20/2016 02:33 PM, Lungimsam wrote: > > Must be hard to design just a few sizes to fit

[RBW] Re: Roadini

2016-07-20 Thread Joe Bernard
Jeebus nothing wrong with me having my own opinion on an opinion forum. I think low trail is overrated in general, and quite silly for a Rivendell in particular. Feel free to think otherwise. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

[RBW] Re: Family trip to Denver in August: ride suggestions/travel tips/kid equipment help?

2016-07-20 Thread Deacon Patrick
Awesome, John! Whatever you end up doing will be an amazing adventure. Some things to think about from someone who grew up in Ft. Collins, spend a fair bit of time in Boulder, has lived in Denver, Colorado Springs, and now a wee mountain town a bit to the west: -- Why not go to a mountain town

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini

2016-07-20 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 07/20/2016 01:56 PM, Daniel D. wrote: jeebus christ nothing wrong with daydreaming about what you'd want to see made... Not at all, but you've got to be realistic about the source. You shop Vlassic for pickles, not ice cream. On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 10:11:01 AM UTC-7, Joe

[RBW] Re: Roadini

2016-07-20 Thread Philip Kim
He was never a believer in long stays either - until fairly recently. It's not like it wouldn't make total sense as more Rivs are being front loaded, including a lot of the staff. I don't foresee going completely low trail, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was more mid to mid-high trail for

Re: [RBW] Tandem Sizing Chart on the BLUG

2016-07-20 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 07/20/2016 02:33 PM, Lungimsam wrote: Must be hard to design just a few sizes to fit everyone, especially for a tandem. Sounds like fistfull of seatpost will be rare on these. You have a lot more reason with a tandem to want a lower than usual top tube with a tandem than you do with a

[RBW] Re: Tandem Sizing Chart on the BLUG

2016-07-20 Thread Shoji Takahashi
HHH will sport a Riv first 1 1/8" threadless. I'm intrigued by the cryptic description of the fork: "special, groovy, lovely in a Tiggish way". FWIW: Will (was it him?) informed me that tandems are designed with lower trail. --shoji On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 2:33:35 PM UTC-4,

[RBW] Re: Roadini

2016-07-20 Thread Joe Bernard
The designs have evolved to accommodate the high bars and big tire clearances he's always supported. Grant has never been a believer in low trail, and I suspect is tired of hearing about it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

[RBW] Re: Roadini

2016-07-20 Thread Justin August
Actually Grant has seen his designs change and evolve over those 30 years - that's one thing that many appreciate about him even if they don't agree with every change and evolutionary step. Those early Riv roads aren't the same as the Roadeos, nor does the current crop of long-chainstay bikes

[RBW] Tandem Sizing Chart on the BLUG

2016-07-20 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
I, too, switched from a M to S after talking to Grant on Saturday. He reminded me that in the Hubbah infancy the sizes were M, L and XL, so really, Bill, we did get mediums. His other point was age and hip flexibility and how high you want to swing your leg over and how old you would still like

[RBW] Tandem Sizing Chart on the BLUG

2016-07-20 Thread Lungimsam
Must be hard to design just a few sizes to fit everyone, especially for a tandem. Sounds like fistfull of seatpost will be rare on these. Are the HHH bikes threaded or threadless steerers? Though not high on my next bike list, I feel funny passing up the rare chance at a Riv tandem. -- You

[RBW] Re: Family trip to Denver in August: ride suggestions/travel tips/kid equipment help?

2016-07-20 Thread Valerie Yates
I'd be happy to suggest some routes but it would be helpful to know what your idea of "shorter" is in terms of mileage and whether or not you'd want to try a climbing route. If you like to read, this little book

[RBW] Re: FS: Cranks, Stem, Canti Brakes, 29" Tires, Dynamo Stuff.

2016-07-20 Thread David Banzer
Updating this thread. Paypal personal please. Prices include shipping. Photos can be sent. Still have the following: 4. Sugino Cranks - I believe these are Alpinas, 110 double (no inner 74bcd drillings), more traditional 5-bolt design, meaning no hidden 5th bolt, 172.5mm, no chainings - though

[RBW] Re: Roadini

2016-07-20 Thread Bill Lindsay
While we are encouraging daydreaming, maybe Grant will finally expand to Carbon, too! just kidding! On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 10:56:15 AM UTC-7, Daniel D. wrote: > > jeebus christ nothing wrong with daydreaming about what you'd

[RBW] Family trip to Denver in August: ride suggestions/travel tips/kid equipment help?

2016-07-20 Thread John Stowe
My family (me, wife and 3 year old) will be visiting my brother in Denver to for two weeks at the end of August. We're thinking of staying in Denver for a week and then traveling somewhere else nearby like Boulder or Fort Collins to access the mountains more easily for a few days. I'd love to

[RBW] Re: Roadini

2016-07-20 Thread Daniel D.
jeebus christ nothing wrong with daydreaming about what you'd want to see made... On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 10:11:01 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Rivs ride and handle the way they do because Grant designs them to do > those things. He's been doing this for nigh on 30 years..he's not

[RBW] Re: Roadini

2016-07-20 Thread Belopsky
So get a custom $$$ one from Riv, or go to a builder who is a 'pro' at it -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Roadini

2016-07-20 Thread Joe Bernard
Rivs ride and handle the way they do because Grant designs them to do those things. He's been doing this for nigh on 30 years..he's not going to change it up now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this

[RBW] Tandem Sizing Chart on the BLUG

2016-07-20 Thread Bill Lindsay
I'm really impressed that Riv pre-sold 50 HUBBUHUBBAH tandems, and I'm super excited to be one of those people. I had to pull the trigger remotely because I was on vacation. Now that I'm home and can reflect, I've looked at the SH ranges. For what it's worth, I've followed Grant and went

[RBW] Re: Roadini

2016-07-20 Thread Lungimsam
Yeah I know. But they have done everything else, so I thought they might put out something different this time. Rivs are the prettiest bikes on earth in my opinion so if I got one of thise types of bikes designed that way I'd want it to be a Riv. -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: Odds of a Fully lugged tandem happening?

2016-07-20 Thread Grant @ Rivendell
I'd always wanted to do a lugged tandem, but we can't afford the tooling for it, it would be extreemly suicidal, and it would take many tandem-curious people out of the running. A tandem is rarely the most ridden bike, and a super expensive one risks becoming a objet d'guilt or a at least

[RBW] Re: Roadini

2016-07-20 Thread Jim M.
On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 10:26:41 PM UTC-7, Lungimsam wrote: > > > 7/4/7, standard diameter tubing, cantis, nice curvy fork with eyelets a > plenty, 2 degree max slope on the top tube, 40mm tires, 650b, dare I ask > for low trail? Pleeese? > Have you ever ridden a bike built like that?

[RBW] Re: Assn. Caffeinated Wheelmen SALE because PONDERO!

2016-07-20 Thread 'jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch
Coffee, mate, tea, cola, attitude...it matters not. On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 11:54:11 PM UTC-6, Lungimsam wrote: > > Do the members have to be caffeinated with coffee only or does Indian tea > count? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

[RBW] Re: ISO: 26/36/46 Willow chain rings...

2016-07-20 Thread lukeheller
I'll add - I'll ship these for $50. They'd cost you $60 if you bought them new from David like I did. Save $1/mile that I test rode them. On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 10:03:10 AM UTC-4, lukeheller wrote: > > I have a 25/34/49 > Rode them 10 miles and removed. PM if interested > > On

[RBW] Re: Roadini

2016-07-20 Thread Chris Birkenmaier
Yeah that was the announcement that caught my attention. Well, that and the fact that 50 tandems had pre-sold. Anxious to see some details on the Roadini. Been chewing on getting a Clem but I just built up one of the new orange Sams (very nice by the way) and didn't want to push my luck with

[RBW] Re: Roadini

2016-07-20 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Since the Clem is somewhat Sammish, I was going to say more of a TIGed Roadeo, but 700x40ish, or proportional wheel sizes (like the Clem.) On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 9:59:47 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: > > I would think it would be closer to a TIGed Sam, the idea being to bring > current

[RBW] Re: ISO: 26/36/46 Willow chain rings...

2016-07-20 Thread David Banzer
When Ted offered them to the list before I bought the lot, I don't think there were any 26t or 36t left. Mostly odd sizes, which I enjoy. Plenty of other options out there for the sizes you need though. David Chicago since it was brought up, remaining Willow rings at treetop.bigcartel.com On

[RBW] Re: ISO: 26/36/46 Willow chain rings...

2016-07-20 Thread lukeheller
I have a 25/34/49 Rode them 10 miles and removed. PM if interested On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 5:45:40 AM UTC-4, Garth wrote: > > If I were going to buy those exact rings I would get the Sugino supershift > pro ring set. These are better than the basic Sugino rings in quality and > no micro

[RBW] Re: Roadini

2016-07-20 Thread Joe Bernard
I would think it would be closer to a TIGed Sam, the idea being to bring current Riv design to a lower price point. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

[RBW] Re: Assn. Caffeinated Wheelmen SALE because PONDERO!

2016-07-20 Thread Deacon Patrick
Ah-ha! "In town" means "in-state" without a bike. Och! If only my brain were cooperating more I'd do a two night bikepack starting tomorrow and we could meet on Boreas Pass Friday (I can't approach Breckenridge without my brain having apoplectic fits for a few weeks). Enjoy meeting with Brad!

[RBW] Re: Roadini

2016-07-20 Thread Ginz
Low trail, I would guess not. But I would also guess long reach calipers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] New Hunqapillar frame geometry

2016-07-20 Thread Garth
Wheels size is another of those much to do about nothing much because you are comparing apples to oranges, they are both wonderful ! I would ride a 26" or 650B wheel 60 Bombadil or 62 Hunq or a custom by any name without hesitation ! Are not bikes just a blast of fun ?!!! I was once

[RBW] ISO: 26/36/46 Willow chain rings...

2016-07-20 Thread Garth
If I were going to buy those exact rings I would get the Sugino supershift pro ring set. These are better than the basic Sugino rings in quality and no micro spacers are needed as these are inherently offset. I have seen them for sale @ ebay for around 82ish dollars w/shiping. -- You

[RBW] ISO: 26/36/46 Willow chain rings...

2016-07-20 Thread Lungimsam
bcd's: 74-26T/110-36T,46T -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email

[RBW] Re: Roadini

2016-07-20 Thread Daniel D.
caught me eye... On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 8:34:34 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > The new Riv email introduces a new Clem-ish road bike on the horizon. Cool! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this