[RBW] FS Acorn Boxy Rando Bag

2018-01-13 Thread bo richardson
I cant PM from my ipad can you contact me ed? thanks borussky(at)gmail.com thanks bo richardson bellingham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

[RBW] Re: Torque spec for quil stem questions

2018-01-13 Thread Eric K
Hi group, 12 to 15 ft-lbs on a lubricated quill bolt is entirely unnecessary in my (limited) experience. I stop well below that (~8 ft-lbs) and find the connection to be plenty snug. I tighten until the wedge is safely seated against the steerer tube, testing with a lateral twist as I go and

Re: [RBW] Re: Tubeless Maintenance

2018-01-13 Thread Jeffrey Arita
Patrick, Thank you for your observations re: Stan's. I am really a noobie when it comes to 'tubeless.' I had to get an education last year while building up his/her Divide bikes (Salsa Fargo's). I went (of course) tubeless with Stan's without any regard to other brands out there (my bad).

[RBW] Re: New Bike Syndrome

2018-01-13 Thread Jeffrey Arita
Dale, Our collective 'affliction' is 100% normal. I too spent most of the first quarter of 2017 slowly assembling not one but two complete builds for the Divide (Salsa Fargo's). We embarked on that journey July 2017. We made it to mid-, late September before the snows in Butte, MT caused us

[RBW] Re: Torque spec for quil stem questions

2018-01-13 Thread Jeffrey Arita
I think with the advent of carbon fiber/resin handlebars, seatposts AND (whoa) steerer tubes the critical technical issue of torque IS required reading. As Grant so astutely points out, that plastic material is not as forgiving as metal. That being said, IMHO it is always a good idea to

[RBW] Did you lose your Silver Roadeo?

2018-01-13 Thread René Rivera
I just picked up a 56 cm Silver Rivendell Roadeo on the street for a very small amount of $. I am suspect it was stolen and am hoping to connect it to it's owner. It has a well worn brooks saddle and grips, full fenders with mudflaps, red soma tires. Does this sounds familiar? I will be off the

[RBW] .... or a 56cm Atlantis (was: Long shot WTB: 53cm Hunqapillar)

2018-01-13 Thread John W
I'm attempting coax that Hunq demo out of Riv's hands. I've also decided to search for a 56cm Atlantis, if that speaks to anyone. I purchased a new car-substitute / everyday bike last year, a Disc Trucker, and I have buyer's remorse. It's a fine ride but it turns out that I pedal through turns

[RBW] Re: Lightest canti-Rivendell is?

2018-01-13 Thread Joe Bernard
The custom thin-wall frame will help a lot with bringing the weight down. The Legolas is built that way and they can be very light. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: [RBW] Surly Dingle Cog Discontinued

2018-01-13 Thread Joe Bernard
My bad..three clamps, not four. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

[RBW] Re: Lightest canti-Rivendell is?

2018-01-13 Thread Belopsky
I am really curious on the build specs. I'm assuming light wheelset which brings the weight down..My Gunnar is more than 20.. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

Re: [RBW] Surly Dingle Cog Discontinued

2018-01-13 Thread Philip Williamson
I’m pretty happy with the S2. I sold the original Quickbeam wheelset to a friend, so I’ll probably keep the S2 for another year or so. The overdrive feels fine, and I’ve come to enjoy the click-click-click of the high gear. I had a vintage 2 speed automatic wheel with a coaster brake, and the

[RBW] Re: Lightest canti-Rivendell is?

2018-01-13 Thread stoker
Thanks John - it’s a great bike for road or trail! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

Re: [RBW] Surly Dingle Cog Discontinued

2018-01-13 Thread Joe Bernard
Yep, you can mount two cogs with four of these things for a 2-speed, or just use spacers. RBW sells both, plus several sizes of single cogs. GearClamp SingleSpeed Conversion Kit for Shimano/SRAM Freehub, each (n – Rivendell Bicycle Works

[RBW] Re: Fendered Roadini

2018-01-13 Thread Deacon Patrick
Buy wine. Drink wine. Install fenders, drinking wine. Use a cork to space the front of the rear fender. I prefer the whisky method. Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group

Re: [RBW] Fender weight thread.

2018-01-13 Thread ted
I think my sks 45 longboards with the steel stays replaced with berthoud al stays weighed about a lb. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Surly Dingle Cog Discontinued

2018-01-13 Thread Ian A
Doug You are correct in your assumption that cassette hubs are incompatible with freewheels. You can quite easily make a cassette hub a single speed with cog and spacer kits. IanA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

Re: [RBW] Front rack for panniers and handlebar bag

2018-01-13 Thread Joe Bunik
Thanks, Steve - yep, it was kind of a coup / kind of a curse to come home with a CARLOAD of Bruce Gordon racks. I've sold through *most* of the ones I'd initially batched having the best and most consistent quality - but I do still have a bunch of prototypes / unpainted / one-offs (in addition to

Re: [RBW] Re: Lightest canti-Rivendell is?

2018-01-13 Thread Joe Bernard
I remember back in the CNC days that you could buy full-bike ti bolt kits, is that still a thing? I'd like to do this with my Cheviot, mostly because I think it would be funny to go Full Weight Weenie on a lugged steel mixte  -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[RBW] New Bike Syndrome

2018-01-13 Thread Joe Bernard
Getting back to your question: Yes, I drove myself crazy planning the build on my new Cheviot. Fortunately it was only a 2 month wait so craziness is over. It's a fun kinda crazy, though  -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.

Re: [RBW] Fender weight thread.

2018-01-13 Thread Patrick Moore
That's close to what I've measured: Plastic (SKS, Zefal, PB, with steel stays) in 26 X 45-55 sizes are about 1.5 lb. Honjos, 559 X 50 or so: 1 lb. I didn't get around to measuring my 700C PB 35s or my 700C VO aluminum 35-40s, and if I measured my 559 X 50 Berthouds, I forgot the number. But I

[RBW] New Bike Syndrome

2018-01-13 Thread Jay Connolly
I’d keep the Sam, too. If cycling is important to you, then sometimes it’s great to have a similar-but-different bike. Use a different bar, a wider/thinner tire, and setthe bike (or both bikes) to be a little more purpose driven. I have an Appaloosa set up as an anyroad bike with 700 x 50

[RBW] Re: Fendered Roadini

2018-01-13 Thread Joe Bernard
What is "wine cork method" ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

Re: [RBW] Re: Lightest canti-Rivendell is?

2018-01-13 Thread Patrick Moore
That's very light: care to describe the build? And what do those tires weigh? When I first built up my 2003 Curt as a 1 X 10 gofast (this was 2003: 11-23 Am Classic cassette, Pro 5 Vis single 46 t ring, 24" and very, very light -- original Ksyrium-beating light -- M14A/ 26 X 1 Turbos and Ultegra

Re: [RBW] None of your skinny 48 mm tires for me!

2018-01-13 Thread Patrick Moore
BTW, Chauncey cut it very fine: I asked for 60 mm + fenders + air, and sure enough, in back, the 60s clear with enough room for fenders well mounted and about 1 cm of space, and allow a 158 mm Q (160 actual since I ordered a 130 mm bb instead of a127.5/128. In front I could run a 700C X 3" tire

Re: [RBW] None of your skinny 48 mm tires for me!

2018-01-13 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks, Kai. My ride was cut very short because my daughter's ride de-materialized, and I had to drive her down to a choral group performance downtown -- and stay for her event. I did get to go home early, leaving her with friends, and got out the door just before 5, to take a brief 7 mile dirt

[RBW] Re: Riv shipping, a new world record

2018-01-13 Thread Justin, Oakland
I think Jenny’s nickname should be “Prime”. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

[RBW] Re: Fendered Roadini

2018-01-13 Thread 'Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch
I would advise to call the website number and talk to Cody Davis, whom is both the guy whom both answers the phone and builds the fenders. He is super nice and an amazing craftmen who will set you up right. I have woody's on two of my bikes and love them. But also be advised that you may

Re: [RBW] Front rack for panniers and handlebar bag

2018-01-13 Thread Sky Coulter
John, There’s a nitto 27f for sale in the forum right now i believe for 170 — pretty good deal and the rack will do exactly what yer looking for. Sky in new west > On Jan 13, 2018, at 2:53 PM, Steven Sweedler wrote: > > Forgot to add that I like your Rock Combo,

Re: [RBW] Front rack for panniers and handlebar bag

2018-01-13 Thread Steven Sweedler
Forgot to add that I like your Rock Combo, especially with front and rear BG racks. When I sold my Thorn it had the BG high front rack, front and rear. Steve On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 5:48 PM Steven Sweedler wrote: > Joe, I use a small piece of metal at the bottom attachment

Re: [RBW] Front rack for panniers and handlebar bag

2018-01-13 Thread Steven Sweedler
Joe, I use a small piece of metal at the bottom attachment spot, according to Bruce my rack is an old one that used an attachment style that didn't work well for me, you had to thread a bolt from the inside of the threaded eyelet of the fork into a threaded cyclinder, I had this break once while

Re: [RBW] Front rack for panniers and handlebar bag

2018-01-13 Thread Joe Bunik
Hi Steven! So your All Rounder has a midfork properly located for BG lowrider? That's rad - I didn't know that Riv did this (maybe only the early years?)… can you confirm if it's the Gordon-spec of 7.5" (190cm) distance between eyelets high and low? =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA On 1/12/18,

Re: [RBW] Re: Front rack for panniers and handlebar bag

2018-01-13 Thread Joe Bunik
hi John I fitted a Bruce Gordon "High Mount Front" on my RockCombo for a recent S36O, and was very impressed with both the ease of fitting and carrying capability of this rack. It is designed to function in combination with both pannier and racktop/platform cargo - as mounted:

[RBW] Re: Riv shipping, a new world record

2018-01-13 Thread Joe Bernard
Yeah, I've had terrible luck with specific-day shipping with all companies. There's too many variables involved for them to make that guarantee. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: Lightest canti-Rivendell is?

2018-01-13 Thread Belopsky
20 really? What is the wheelset? On Saturday, January 13, 2018 at 12:45:26 PM UTC-5, stoker wrote: > > On Thursday, January 11, 2018 at 4:17:07 PM UTC-6, lum gim fong wrote: > > Legolas? > > Saluki? > > Jones? > > > > > > Was a Roadeo ever canti? > > My racy build canti-custom weighs right

[RBW] Re: Lightest canti-Rivendell is?

2018-01-13 Thread Belopsky
Jones isnt canti On Thursday, January 11, 2018 at 5:17:07 PM UTC-5, lum gim fong wrote: > > Legolas? > Saluki? > Jones? > > Was a Roadeo ever canti? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: Lightest canti-Rivendell is?

2018-01-13 Thread Bill Lindsay
Right at 20 pounds with nothing dumb-light on it. That's good stuff. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Saturday, January 13, 2018 at 9:45:26 AM UTC-8, stoker wrote: > > On Thursday, January 11, 2018 at 4:17:07 PM UTC-6, lum gim fong wrote: > > Legolas? > > Saluki? > > Jones? > > > > > > Was

[RBW] Re: Lightest canti-Rivendell is?

2018-01-13 Thread JohnS
Awesome canti-custom Stoker! I can see a bike like that replacing two of my current bikes. JohnS On Saturday, January 13, 2018 at 12:45:26 PM UTC-5, stoker wrote: > > On Thursday, January 11, 2018 at 4:17:07 PM UTC-6, lum gim fong wrote: > > Legolas? > > Saluki? > > Jones? > > > > > > Was

[RBW] Fender weight thread.

2018-01-13 Thread lum gim fong
Thought it may be useful. Here is some info I found. Correct if. *Add your data if you have weighed them or know other reputable source and please include your source in the listing, with hardware.* *Longboards - black (35,45)* are listed by SKS as 689g. Not sure if 35 or 45 width.

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Deore XT front derailer from RBW

2018-01-13 Thread John Hawrylak
Lim If the Sam is a 28.6mm tube and you have the shims, I'll buy the FD for your $30 price which includes shipping John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ -Original Message- From: lum gim fong To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Sat, Jan 13,

[RBW] Re: Do you like your Berthoud stainless fenders?

2018-01-13 Thread lum gim fong
Longboards (35,45) are listed by SKS as 689g. Not sure if 35 or 45 width. But that means, in either case, they are heavier than Berthouds in the size I want: 650b x 50 (644g). So my size berts are lighter than my current 45mm longboards. Now just have to think about are Honjos worth it for any

[RBW] New Bike Syndrome

2018-01-13 Thread RichS
Rusty, If you can figure out a way, I implore you to keep your Sam. I have one; and an Atlantis. They’re very different bikes. Even though there is overlap between them and you can accomplish many of the same things on both, they do have their own handling characteristics and feel. At one

[RBW] Re: Riv shipping, a new world record

2018-01-13 Thread lum gim fong
It's ok, Joe. I understand what you meant. I just wondered which shipping option you selected when you purchased to get it shipped to you so fast. I picked three day option but I live on east coast. >From the tracking it looks like my 3-day shipping is going to be 4-day in reality. -- You

Re: [RBW] New Bike Syndrome

2018-01-13 Thread Pondero
Like others have already well said, I'm also a huge proponent of a backup bike. If you could find creative financing (other things to sell besides a Sam?), you have a great opportunity for that here. Your single bike approach, if it comes down to that, sounds fine. The only other idea I have

[RBW] None of your skinny 48 mm tires for me!

2018-01-13 Thread Kainalu V.
And since you're certainly out shredding the ditches with those beach racers, I'll be patiently awaiting the roll report... Enjoy -Kai BK NY -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: FS: Deore XT front derailer from RBW

2018-01-13 Thread lum gim fong
Hi John, I'm away from it right now so best I can tell you is: It has a thick rubber shim in it and the derailer was mounted on my Sam, whatever that ST diameter is. I can measure tonight. IIRC the cable runs from m the shifter, along the downtube, under the bb up along the ST to the the top

Re: [RBW] Surly Dingle Cog Discontinued

2018-01-13 Thread Eric Norris
Doug: You can turn your freewheel into a single (and probably two-speed) with spacers. There are kits out there to do this. Eric N www.CampyOnly.com CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy > On Jan 13, 2018, at 11:47 AM, Patrick Moore wrote: > > The ENO is a

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv shipping, a new world record

2018-01-13 Thread Patrick Moore
Understood, and odd, not long after I queried, I found myself up late after a late resume and with insomnia, so I sent my City Councilman at exactly 2:16 am this morning. On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 1:34 AM, Joe Bernard wrote: > Patrick: My excuse is I run a house for

[RBW] Re: FS: Saluki

2018-01-13 Thread Kellie
*SOLD*! On Saturday, January 6, 2018 at 3:59:25 PM UTC-8, Kellie wrote: > > 50cm, 650b Rivendell Saluki; complete. Built up from frame with 100% brand > new components; <300 miles. Rich built wheels with Shimano dynamo. $1800; > shipping costs *not* included. If you want the Sackville

Re: [RBW] Surly Dingle Cog Discontinued

2018-01-13 Thread Patrick Moore
The ENO is a screw-on freewheel. On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 7:27 AM, Doug Bloch wrote: > Thanks for the education, Phillip. Am I right that the DOS ENO only works > with freewheel hubs and not cassette hubs? Forgive my ignorance. > > Thanks, > > Doug > > On Friday, January 12,

Re: [RBW] Do you like your Berthoud stainless fenders?

2018-01-13 Thread Patrick Moore
I've used 2 or 3 pairs, 559 X 60, 559 X 45 or 50, and 650B X I forget but perhaps 50. I like them, though at least in my hands I find that they dent more easily than I like. I think I recall that my aluminum Honjos didn't dent as easily, tho' this was 10 years ago and also, the Honjos were

Re: [RBW] Re: Cumil the Peeper sold me a Canti-Sam frameset

2018-01-13 Thread R Shannon
John, It exists. The Atlantis. Albeit a bit more stout (and pricey) than you might prefer. If you’re in the right size range, 26” wheels? No problem! Best, Richard Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 13, 2018, at 1:18 AM, john Bokman wrote: > > I trust in Grant, but my

[RBW] None of your skinny 48 mm tires for me!

2018-01-13 Thread Patrick Moore
Newly shod with Big Ones. 29.3" tall, 59.5 cm wide (they will grow a wee bit) at 20/21. Phat! -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/

[RBW] My new Cheviot

2018-01-13 Thread Deacon Patrick
Right on, Joe! “Back-straining grades” are there to help you strengthen your core so the hills get flatter. Grin. I cracked up on my wee ride today (5 mile climb to Woodland Park, then down hill home). I’ve been on my bigger 71” gear for 4 or five days now, and needed a slow and steady

Re: [RBW] New Bike Syndrome

2018-01-13 Thread Deacon Patrick
Is cycling an important part of your life? Important for exercise, transportation, errands, relaxing, contemplating, theraputic, etc? Then you need two bikes. One goes down now and then. Derailure or hub blows up, spoke snaps, rim gets dinged. It happens. No worries, you have your other bike.

Re: [RBW] New Bike Syndrome

2018-01-13 Thread Dale Click
Hi Chris, If I have Riv build it as a complete, then I am thinking Rich built Atlas wheels, Albatross bars, Riv’s pick for the F derailleurs, the Sugino triple, and downtube shifters. Eventually, when I can find the parts, I would move the rear shifter up onto the bar with a Paul thumbie. I

[RBW] Re: Torque spec for quil stem questions

2018-01-13 Thread A. Nostuh
Anyways since that incident where the stem slid in the steerer (I think the mechanic tended to booze a lot and be high on the job) I just always cranked it real good to ensure it wouldn't slip again. But I wondered if maybe I was overdoing it and bulging the steerer. Anyways seems fine but

[RBW] Re: Torque spec for quil stem questions

2018-01-13 Thread A. Nostuh
Well I had a bike shop build up a bike and one day the quill stem slipped and handlebars rotated and I did nearly crash so yes you might say your life could depend on it. I don't think it would be rocket science but if you're the type of person who even would read or be aware of lists like this

[RBW] Re: Torque spec for quil stem questions

2018-01-13 Thread Garth
The fact that every mfr. offers different "advice" on torque values for a given part, pretty much says it all . If you think a number on a torque meter is going to guarantee to anything, think again . Every torque wrench varies from another. So take that into account along with no agreed

[RBW] New Bike Syndrome

2018-01-13 Thread Coal Bee Rye Anne
Hi Dale, Take the Sam for a ride! And ditto on the congrats for your new coming Atlantis. I’ve often suffered similar symptoms but find they often flair up more when not getting enough riding in. Although I certainly still think of build changes while riding or because of revelations

[RBW] Re: Torque spec for quil stem questions

2018-01-13 Thread tc
Al, If you have a Riv bike, and kept the owner's manual that came with it, there should be a torque spec sheet for various bike fasteners in there. I'm not home at the moment, but can check when I get there if you still need the info. Tom -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] New Bike Syndrome

2018-01-13 Thread ted
There is no final step, and the true panic sets in when you thought you would be all done but instead realize you also really NEED just one more bike to . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group

[RBW] Re: Do you like your Berthoud stainless fenders?

2018-01-13 Thread Frank Brose
I have them on more than one bike and will probably put them on another soon. Weight to me is a moot point. If I were concerned about that I'd lose a couple pounds of body fat. Easy to set up, look good and maintenance free. I like'em. On Saturday, January 13, 2018 at 8:20:39 AM UTC-6, lum

[RBW] Re: FS: Deore XT front derailer from RBW

2018-01-13 Thread John Hawrylak
Do you have the shims for a 28.6 seat tube and does it have the small arm on the non drive side to accept a bottom pull cable? John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ On Saturday, January 13, 2018 at 1:47:24 AM UTC-5, lum gim fong wrote: > Came stock on my blue sam from RBW. > Clean and nice. Used. Some,

[RBW] Torque spec for quil stem questions

2018-01-13 Thread A. Nostuh
I'm curious what's considered ideal torque for nitto quil stems. Most anecdotal advice is "just firm it up good and tight" like it's no big deal. But if it's too tight it could bulge and damage the steerer tube. Not tight enough it could slip can result in a really bad crash. So what's ideal in

[RBW] Re: Do you like your Berthoud stainless fenders?

2018-01-13 Thread Brian Campbell
I used them and they were nice but heavier to no real benefit than aluminum fenders. I like the Berthoud mounting struts best because they sit almost flush on the fender. I use Berthoud struts with VO fenders to help minimize toe overlap. On Saturday, January 13, 2018 at 9:20:39 AM UTC-5, lum

[RBW] FS Acorn Boxy Rando Bag

2018-01-13 Thread Ed Felker
Hi, I have a gently used Acorn Boxy Rando Bag in green, drilled for decaleur, for sale $115 shipped USA via Priority Mail. Photos here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/8193389@N06/albums/72157692185067795 I purchased this from a list member for a project that didn't happen. There are a few signs

Re: [RBW] Surly Dingle Cog Discontinued

2018-01-13 Thread Doug Bloch
Thanks for the education, Phillip. Am I right that the DOS ENO only works with freewheel hubs and not cassette hubs? Forgive my ignorance. Thanks, Doug On Friday, January 12, 2018 at 9:54:51 AM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote: > I'm a big fan of the dingle cog in practice. With two rings and a

[RBW] New Bike Syndrome

2018-01-13 Thread Pondero
Rusty, just wanted to express my congrats on the Atlantis! The classic of all classics! I can relate to the mania. I suspect it could probably be worse when you are scheming an Atlantis build. There are SO many wonderfully creative examples to peruse. How about you tell us more about your

[RBW] Do you like your Berthoud stainless fenders?

2018-01-13 Thread lum gim fong
How do you like yours? I have used Honjos and Longboards, but looking for something more streamlined and clean looking for my Rambouillet. But wondering if these are too heavy compared to aluminum. But maybe its just nit picking. They look nice and seem to be the strongest, and reportedly stay

[RBW] Re: New Bike Syndrome

2018-01-13 Thread Lester Lammers
It's OCD but normal. *I* would do an organ transplant from your Sam and fine tune from there. On Friday, January 12, 2018 at 10:31:44 AM UTC-5, Rusty Click wrote: > I am suffering from this condition, and wondered if it is normal. You > see, I've recently ordered a new Atlantis (62), and I

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv shipping, a new world record

2018-01-13 Thread Joe Bernard
Patrick: My excuse is I run a house for developmentally disabled guys who go to day program. So I get a nap during that time, then try to get a ride in, then find myself up and trolling the internet after I've gotten them to bed. Hence, Riv purchases at 2am! -- You received this message