Re: [RBW] Getting in over my head

2023-05-15 Thread Richard Rose
Leah, the short answer is a resounding YES! If you are going to do group rides you (and everyone else) will get in over your head. It’s very easy to exert too much & you are done, especially if it is not a “no drop” ride. It’s worth mentioning that crashes are not infrequent on these speedier

[RBW] Re: FS: modern cockpit and drivetrain for your Riv

2023-05-15 Thread Neil Doran
Cockpit components are sold, drivetrain still available for a la carte pricing shown above or get it all for $200. On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 10:07:57 AM UTC-7 Neil Doran wrote: > Hi all, I'm selling a SRAM 2x10 speed setup that I had on my Sam for a > couple of years. It is a super fun

Re: [RBW] Re: Getting in over my head

2023-05-15 Thread Julian Westerhout
Leah, Riding position and bike weight (and wheel weight) are a big part of it -- a lot less of a sail at speed compared to your Platypus. Lots of relatively cheap "classic" vintage 1980s-1990s steel bikes with performance like the Roadeo out there -- perhaps look for one near you to try

[RBW] Re: Getting in over my head

2023-05-15 Thread Julian Westerhout
Leah, In answer to your question, yes, indeed. The most similar was about 16 years ago -- new to town, showed up to a club "ice cream" ride -- to me that meant casual ride with a stop for ice cream -- but at the time that particular ride was a fast paced 15 miles out to eat ice cream, then

Re: [RBW] Re: Getting in over my head

2023-05-15 Thread Leah Peterson
Grant would have to make a mixte version! I have wondered about it, Julian. How much faster would a Roadeo be, I wonder? And what makes it so?Sent from my iPhoneOn May 15, 2023, at 9:30 PM, Julian Westerhout wrote:Leah, Perhaps a Roadeo is in your future   ;)    Julian WesterhoutBloomington,

[RBW] Re: Getting in over my head

2023-05-15 Thread Julian Westerhout
Leah, Perhaps a Roadeo is in your future ;) Julian Westerhout Bloomington, IL On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 8:13:53 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > I just want to talk bikes. I don’t have anything to post FS or WTB…I just > want to tell Riv people this dumb story that

Re: [RBW] forthcoming Hillibike "combo" predictions?

2023-05-15 Thread Michael Baquerizo
*If they didn't make major changes to the Hunqapillar, a newer version would just be an Appaloosa.* this is what i tell myself all the time. always wanted a hunq, but ended up with an appa. i used to hate the long chain stays and i still *prefer *the hunq, but I i really like my appaloosa.

Re: [RBW] forthcoming Hillibike "combo" predictions?

2023-05-15 Thread Joe Bernard
Old rigid mountain bikes were the original impetus for Clem H and L, too. All those '80s/'90s MTBs we were finding cheap on Craigslist quickly became frightfully expensive when we (definitely me) started replacing worn parts and adding ridable bars and stems, the new/cheaper TIG'd Rivendell was

Re: [RBW] forthcoming Hillibike "combo" predictions?

2023-05-15 Thread Brian Turner
Clem actually predates the Hillibike moniker. From my understanding, the term originated with Gus / Susie because they were most akin to the original mountain bikes that inspired them, but Rivendell didn’t want them perceived as something meant for big jumps and drops and the kind of stuff people

Re: [RBW] forthcoming Hillibike "combo" predictions?

2023-05-15 Thread Chris L
RBW have stated at least once that the Hunqapillar will come back, but in a different form. I hope that's what is coming in October. If they didn't make major changes to the Hunqapillar, a newer version would just be an Appaloosa. Other than longer chainstays and probably heavier tubes,

Re: [RBW] forthcoming Hillibike "combo" predictions?

2023-05-15 Thread Richard Rose
Two biggest differences (in my opinion) between a Clem L and either a Gus or Susie; the latter are not step through frames & they both have a significantly higher bottom bracket than the Clem. I think the Clem is accurately described as a “Hillibike”. Gus & Susie are legit mountain bikes. Love

Re: [RBW] forthcoming Hillibike "combo" predictions?

2023-05-15 Thread Joe Bernard
I've owned several Clem Ls and one Susie. The starkest differences I could find is the Susie has a higher "clear them rocks" BB shell and takes wider tires for that way cush ride. If there's a difference in steering it wasn't pronounced enough for me to notice but all Rivs steer great, I don't

Re: [RBW] Re: forthcoming Hillibike "combo" predictions?

2023-05-15 Thread Richard Rose
Garth - WTH? “Girls bike”?! “California cool”? (Sounds like a good thing to me.) “Does not relate” in the heartland? Does not get more heartland than Indianapolis, Lexington, Kalamazoo or Toledo - to name a few of the places where cool people ride Clem L bicycles. You might benefit from reading

Re: [RBW] forthcoming Hillibike "combo" predictions?

2023-05-15 Thread ssimarsawhney
My guess would have been 1in threaded with thicker tubing, which feels like a clem. Can someone speak a bit more about the differences between the two? On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 4:44:08 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote: > I don't think anyone said Susie and Clem are alike, we said Clem L covers

Re: [RBW] forthcoming Hillibike "combo" predictions?

2023-05-15 Thread Joe Bernard
I don't think anyone said Susie and Clem are alike, we said Clem L covers the same territory. Gus is more specifically its own thing, there's no other Riv in the category. On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 3:59:28 PM UTC-7 iamkeith wrote: > Owning both a Susie and a Clem, I do agree with Garth that

Re: [RBW] forthcoming Hillibike "combo" predictions?

2023-05-15 Thread iamkeith
Owning both a Susie and a Clem, I do agree with Garth that they are almost nothing alike. On the other hand, I guess I don't see as much distinction between the Susie and the Gus as some do, and think of them as interchangeable. Just slightly clunkier and stiffer tubing on one. Assuming it

Re: [RBW] Re: forthcoming Hillibike "combo" predictions?

2023-05-15 Thread Brian Turner
Gus / Susie are fillet brazed frames. They’ve mentioned several times how that was a big factor in these frames being so pricey and difficult to produce, which is why they are moving to a different method of joining the tubes with this new iteration.On May 15, 2023, at 6:31 PM, Zac Terrones

[RBW] Re: forthcoming Hillibike "combo" predictions?

2023-05-15 Thread Zac Terrones
I'm thinking this as well. Didn't they say something about the swooptube being hard to do with lugs? They've only done tig frames with swooptubes right? Charlie, gus/susie etc. On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 12:06:42 PM UTC-7 Mackenzy Albright wrote: > My no evidence fantasy guess is if it's a

Re: [RBW] forthcoming Hillibike "combo" predictions?

2023-05-15 Thread Andrew Letton
The one feature that I see the Gus/Susie just begging for is a set of triple bottle bosses on the rear side of the seat tube. With those long chainstays, it seems the perfect place for another big (1 - 2 liter) waterbottle for those of us in hot, dry locations.cheers,Andrew in Sydney On

[RBW] Re: forthcoming Hillibike "combo" predictions?

2023-05-15 Thread Brian Forsee
I agree Laing... I also remember seeing some Riv documentation somewhere mentioning a 'Lugged Susie' in the works. I'm interested to see the final details of this model. I'd personally like to fall further towards the Gus/dedicated mountain bike/off road touring end of the spectrum but the

[RBW] Re: forthcoming Hillibike "combo" predictions?

2023-05-15 Thread Joe Bernard
Well a hardy har-har Clem Ls aren't "girls bikes" any more than Appaloosas are "boys bikes", the location of the toptube-to-seattube intersection is part of a frame. Frames don't have gender, they have different stepover heights. On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 10:20:35 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

Re: [RBW] forthcoming Hillibike "combo" predictions?

2023-05-15 Thread lconley
"Lugged" in my mind points to the Susie end of the Gus/Susie spectrum - no 1-1/8" Rivendell headtube lugs nor fork crowns that I have ever seen, just "napkin rings" for the headtube. The 1-1/8" Gus and the Hubbuhubbuh did not have lugged headtubes nor lugged forks. Lugs are prettier than TIG.

Re: [RBW] forthcoming Hillibike "combo" predictions?

2023-05-15 Thread Johnny Alien
I get not liking the design as much but I thought we were WAY past the point of calling step through bikes "girl bikes". On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 4:05:14 PM UTC-4 rmro...@gmail.com wrote: > My guess - and it’s only a guess. Same geo as the “older” bikes. Tubing > that splits the difference

Re: [RBW] forthcoming Hillibike "combo" predictions?

2023-05-15 Thread Richard Rose
My guess - and it’s only a guess. Same geo as the “older” bikes. Tubing that splits the difference between the Gus/Susie. Since they are only making one model my money would be on a threaded steer tube - just seems more “Riv”, though I like my threadless bike.Sent from my iPhoneOn May 15, 2023, at

[RBW] Re: forthcoming Hillibike "combo" predictions?

2023-05-15 Thread Garth
Well a hardy har har . ! I don't see the Susie and Clem-L as being anywhere near interchangeable. The Clem-L still looks like a girls bike to me, the Susie/Gus with the swooptube looks cool. The Gus/Susie also a whole lot more steering trail than all the other models, and it's unmistakable

[RBW] Re: forthcoming Hillibike "combo" predictions?

2023-05-15 Thread Mackenzy Albright
My no evidence fantasy guess is if it's a lugged hillibike variation it'll be something more akin the Hunqapillar but with some updated "riv" quality of life improvements. Maybe gus like room for rubber and longer wheelbase. As much as I like swoopy tubes - diamond frames and frame bag capacity

Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2023

2023-05-15 Thread Drew Fitchette
JOE APPALOOSA 51cm Frame only $1,250 Ebay

Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2023

2023-05-15 Thread 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch
That’s a beautiful Clem! The rear rack is a perfect choice. David On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 8:45:58 AM UTC-7 JAS wrote: > Clem L , 52cm, blue, $2000 with wood fenders and PDW rack > Sequim, WA (pronounced "skwim") > >

[RBW] Re: forthcoming Hillibike "combo" predictions?

2023-05-15 Thread Johnny Alien
I agree with Joe. There isn't. a huge need for a Susie variant when the Clem L already kind of covers that. On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 1:20:35 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote: > My guess is swooptube. My hope is it leans towards the Gus side of the > equation with 1-1/8" threadless and heavier

[RBW] Re: forthcoming Hillibike "combo" predictions?

2023-05-15 Thread Joe Bernard
My guess is swooptube. My hope is it leans towards the Gus side of the equation with 1-1/8" threadless and heavier duty tubes, I feel that the Susie/Wolbis side was already adequately covered by like 7 different Rivbikes. I've just started trail riding again (after many years) and may pop for

[RBW] forthcoming Hillibike "combo" predictions?

2023-05-15 Thread Brian Turner
Does anyone know anything specific about this new Hillibike iteration scheduled for October? Care to make any speculations or predictions? According to the latest Riv IG post, it only says "lugged, green and dark gold". My main questions are: Will it have a straight top tube like the Platy /

Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2023

2023-05-15 Thread JAS
Clem L , 52cm, blue, $2000 with wood fenders and PDW rack Sequim, WA (pronounced "skwim") https://olympic.craigslist.org/bik/d/carlsborg-rivendell-clem-smith-jr-52cm/7620340306.html On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 11:12:14 AM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote: > ATLANTIS 2 > 61cm > 3000 > Santa Cruz, CA