Leah, the short answer is a resounding YES! If you are going to do group rides you (and everyone else) will get in over your head. It’s very easy to exert too much & you are done, especially if it is not a “no drop” ride. It’s worth mentioning that crashes are not infrequent on these speedier
Cockpit components are sold, drivetrain still available for a la carte
pricing shown above or get it all for $200.
On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 10:07:57 AM UTC-7 Neil Doran wrote:
> Hi all, I'm selling a SRAM 2x10 speed setup that I had on my Sam for a
> couple of years. It is a super fun
Leah,
Riding position and bike weight (and wheel weight) are a big part of it --
a lot less of a sail at speed compared to your Platypus. Lots of
relatively cheap "classic" vintage 1980s-1990s steel bikes with
performance like the Roadeo out there -- perhaps look for one near you to
try
Leah,
In answer to your question, yes, indeed. The most similar was about 16
years ago -- new to town, showed up to a club "ice cream" ride -- to me
that meant casual ride with a stop for ice cream -- but at the time that
particular ride was a fast paced 15 miles out to eat ice cream, then
Grant would have to make a mixte version! I have wondered about it, Julian. How much faster would a Roadeo be, I wonder? And what makes it so?Sent from my iPhoneOn May 15, 2023, at 9:30 PM, Julian Westerhout wrote:Leah, Perhaps a Roadeo is in your future ;) Julian WesterhoutBloomington,
Leah,
Perhaps a Roadeo is in your future ;)
Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL
On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 8:13:53 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
> I just want to talk bikes. I don’t have anything to post FS or WTB…I just
> want to tell Riv people this dumb story that
*If they didn't make major changes to the Hunqapillar, a newer version
would just be an Appaloosa.*
this is what i tell myself all the time. always wanted a hunq, but ended up
with an appa. i used to hate the long chain stays and i still *prefer *the
hunq, but I i really like my appaloosa.
Old rigid mountain bikes were the original impetus for Clem H and L, too.
All those '80s/'90s MTBs we were finding cheap on Craigslist quickly became
frightfully expensive when we (definitely me) started replacing worn parts
and adding ridable bars and stems, the new/cheaper TIG'd Rivendell was
Clem actually predates the Hillibike moniker. From my understanding, the term originated with Gus / Susie because they were most akin to the original mountain bikes that inspired them, but Rivendell didn’t want them perceived as something meant for big jumps and drops and the kind of stuff people
RBW have stated at least once that the Hunqapillar will come back, but in a
different form. I hope that's what is coming in October.
If they didn't make major changes to the Hunqapillar, a newer version would
just be an Appaloosa. Other than longer chainstays and probably heavier
tubes,
Two biggest differences (in my opinion) between a Clem L and either a Gus or Susie; the latter are not step through frames & they both have a significantly higher bottom bracket than the Clem. I think the Clem is accurately described as a “Hillibike”. Gus & Susie are legit mountain bikes. Love
I've owned several Clem Ls and one Susie. The starkest differences I could
find is the Susie has a higher "clear them rocks" BB shell and takes wider
tires for that way cush ride. If there's a difference in steering it wasn't
pronounced enough for me to notice but all Rivs steer great, I don't
Garth - WTH? “Girls bike”?! “California cool”? (Sounds like a good thing to me.) “Does not relate” in the heartland? Does not get more heartland than Indianapolis, Lexington, Kalamazoo or Toledo - to name a few of the places where cool people ride Clem L bicycles. You might benefit from reading
My guess would have been 1in threaded with thicker tubing, which feels like
a clem.
Can someone speak a bit more about the differences between the two?
On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 4:44:08 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
> I don't think anyone said Susie and Clem are alike, we said Clem L covers
I don't think anyone said Susie and Clem are alike, we said Clem L covers
the same territory. Gus is more specifically its own thing, there's no
other Riv in the category.
On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 3:59:28 PM UTC-7 iamkeith wrote:
> Owning both a Susie and a Clem, I do agree with Garth that
Owning both a Susie and a Clem, I do agree with Garth that they are almost
nothing alike. On the other hand, I guess I don't see as much distinction
between the Susie and the Gus as some do, and think of them as
interchangeable. Just slightly clunkier and stiffer tubing on one.
Assuming it
Gus / Susie are fillet brazed frames. They’ve mentioned several times how that was a big factor in these frames being so pricey and difficult to produce, which is why they are moving to a different method of joining the tubes with this new iteration.On May 15, 2023, at 6:31 PM, Zac Terrones
I'm thinking this as well. Didn't they say something about the swooptube
being hard to do with lugs? They've only done tig frames with swooptubes
right? Charlie, gus/susie etc.
On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 12:06:42 PM UTC-7 Mackenzy Albright wrote:
> My no evidence fantasy guess is if it's a
The one feature that I see the Gus/Susie just begging for is a set of triple
bottle bosses on the rear side of the seat tube. With those long chainstays, it
seems the perfect place for another big (1 - 2 liter) waterbottle for those of
us in hot, dry locations.cheers,Andrew in Sydney
On
I agree Laing... I also remember seeing some Riv documentation somewhere
mentioning a 'Lugged Susie' in the works. I'm interested to see the final
details of this model. I'd personally like to fall further towards the
Gus/dedicated mountain bike/off road touring end of the spectrum but the
Well a hardy har-har Clem Ls aren't "girls bikes" any more than Appaloosas
are "boys bikes", the location of the toptube-to-seattube intersection is
part of a frame. Frames don't have gender, they have different stepover
heights.
On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 10:20:35 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
"Lugged" in my mind points to the Susie end of the Gus/Susie spectrum - no
1-1/8" Rivendell headtube lugs nor fork crowns that I have ever seen, just
"napkin rings" for the headtube. The 1-1/8" Gus and the Hubbuhubbuh did not
have lugged headtubes nor lugged forks. Lugs are prettier than TIG.
I get not liking the design as much but I thought we were WAY past the
point of calling step through bikes "girl bikes".
On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 4:05:14 PM UTC-4 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
> My guess - and it’s only a guess. Same geo as the “older” bikes. Tubing
> that splits the difference
My guess - and it’s only a guess. Same geo as the “older” bikes. Tubing that splits the difference between the Gus/Susie. Since they are only making one model my money would be on a threaded steer tube - just seems more “Riv”, though I like my threadless bike.Sent from my iPhoneOn May 15, 2023, at
Well a hardy har har . ! I don't see the Susie and Clem-L as being
anywhere near interchangeable. The Clem-L still looks like a girls bike to
me, the Susie/Gus with the swooptube looks cool. The Gus/Susie also a whole
lot more steering trail than all the other models, and it's unmistakable
My no evidence fantasy guess is if it's a lugged hillibike variation it'll
be something more akin the Hunqapillar but with some updated "riv" quality
of life improvements. Maybe gus like room for rubber and longer wheelbase.
As much as I like swoopy tubes - diamond frames and frame bag capacity
JOE APPALOOSA
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That’s a beautiful Clem! The rear rack is a perfect choice.
David
On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 8:45:58 AM UTC-7 JAS wrote:
> Clem L , 52cm, blue, $2000 with wood fenders and PDW rack
> Sequim, WA (pronounced "skwim")
>
>
I agree with Joe. There isn't. a huge need for a Susie variant when the
Clem L already kind of covers that.
On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 1:20:35 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
> My guess is swooptube. My hope is it leans towards the Gus side of the
> equation with 1-1/8" threadless and heavier
My guess is swooptube. My hope is it leans towards the Gus side of the
equation with 1-1/8" threadless and heavier duty tubes, I feel that the
Susie/Wolbis side was already adequately covered by like 7 different
Rivbikes. I've just started trail riding again (after many years) and may
pop for
Does anyone know anything specific about this new Hillibike iteration
scheduled for October? Care to make any speculations or predictions?
According to the latest Riv IG post, it only says "lugged, green and dark
gold".
My main questions are:
Will it have a straight top tube like the Platy /
Clem L , 52cm, blue, $2000 with wood fenders and PDW rack
Sequim, WA (pronounced "skwim")
https://olympic.craigslist.org/bik/d/carlsborg-rivendell-clem-smith-jr-52cm/7620340306.html
On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 11:12:14 AM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:
> ATLANTIS 2
> 61cm
> 3000
> Santa Cruz, CA
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