Re: [RBW] Rivendell Rambouillet Randonneuring Road Bicycle "pointy lugs" Toyo? Waterford?

AFAIK, IIRC, these were all Toyo built. Doug Van Cleve Chandler, AZ On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 3:28 PM Jerry Lynn wrote: > No mine, and no affiliation... > $1,6999 > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.

[RBW] Butternut touch up?

Howdy folks. Is there such a thing, other than as a science experiment? Are the new Homers the same color as the old Sam Appas, etc? Thanks, Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Current cork grip gluing BKM?

Howdy folks. I just did a search on this and found a (largely inconclusive) thread from 2020. RBW currently shows something like Amazing Goop/Shoe Goo being liberally smeared on the bar before sliding on the grip, which of course results in a bunch of that toxic goo pushing out from under the

[RBW] Nicest silver Tektro upright canti brake levers?

Howdy folks. What are the nicest all silver Tektro upright bar canti brake levers currently available? I’m redoing the bars and shifters on my Joe Appaloosa and the cantis already on it are Tektro. Thanks, Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] WTB: unpunched/grooved cork grips

Howdy folks. Anybody sitting on a set of these with no particular plans? They are currently out of stock at RBW and I’d love to get my hands on a set… Thanks, Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this

Re: [RBW] Appaloosa Build Opinions

I clearly too WAY too long pondering my response, Garth nailed it here IMHO... Doug On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 4:27 PM Garth wrote: > Now that I see Ted's bike the picture is more clear. the VO bars are the > Grand Randonneur version which is markedly different from the Nouveau > version. The

Re: [RBW] Appaloosa Build Opinions

Hey Ted, Pretty sure your pic confirms my suspicion... Those bars have quite a long reach and a fair bit of drop. Even keeping the stem, something like a Soma Highway One in 44 or 46cm would shorten your reach and drop a decent amount:

Re: [RBW] Appaloosa Build Opinions

And, like flipping the albatross bars, would give a drop instead of > a rise... I might play with that idea a bit tonight. > > On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 11:36 AM Doug Van Cleve > wrote: > >> Hey Ted. >> >> I personally wouldn't run a super short stem, but those wide drop

Re: [RBW] Appaloosa Build Opinions

Hey Ted. I personally wouldn't run a super short stem, but those wide drops (and if I'm not mistaken relatively long reach) are making things worse for you. A narrower modern bend, short and shallow drop bar would reduce the reach a fair bit, I think. That said, I don't think any of the current

[RBW] Re: WTB: Silver 170 triple crank

Wow, I did a fantastically bad job with my initial request! I’m looking for a 170mm crankset, or maybe 167mm if anybody has tripled on of the external BB versions… Doug On Sat, Jun 24, 2023 at 9:32 PM Doug Van Cleve wrote: > Okay, I just realized I was not specific enough… I’m look

[RBW] Re: WTB: Silver 170 triple crank

Okay, I just realized I was not specific enough… I’m looking for an RBW Silver brand crankset :^) Doug On Sat, Jun 24, 2023 at 10:21 AM Doug Van Cleve wrote: > A 42/28 double *might* also do the trick... > > Doug Van Cleve > Chandler, AZ > > On Sat, Jun 24, 2023 at 10:12

[RBW] Re: WTB: Silver 170 triple crank

A 42/28 double *might* also do the trick... Doug Van Cleve Chandler, AZ On Sat, Jun 24, 2023 at 10:12 AM Doug Van Cleve wrote: > Howdy folks. > > Anybody holding an unwanted Silver 170mm triple crank in good condition? > I might buy a new one, now that they're back in stock, bu

[RBW] WTB: Silver 170 triple crank

Howdy folks. Anybody holding an unwanted Silver 170mm triple crank in good condition? I might buy a new one, now that they're back in stock, but I wouldn't hate saving some dough either. On a related note, what width BB would I need for a Silver triple on a Joe Appa? The bike currently has a

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB/WTT: Berthoud saddle anti-twist clamp

. I > emailed Berthoud direct and they were willing to ship one via the post at > no cost to me. I just explained that I had an older one without the clamp > and they obliged. Hope that helps! > > On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 5:56:32 PM UTC-5 Doug Van Cleve wrote: > >> Ho

[RBW] WTB/WTT: Berthoud saddle anti-twist clamp

Howdy folks I’m looking for one of these for a didn't-come-with-one older but lightly used Berthoud saddle. As far as I can tell, it is not currently available in the U.S. and shipping from Europe quadruples the price :^( Please give me a holler if you have one that you aren’t using or know of

[RBW] New crank?

Howdy folks. Have there been any pics or any info (other than it’s less chunky) about this new crank set that’s coming out? Thanks, Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2023

This Saluki seems pretty sweet, only weirdness is Campy Ergopower and Shimano derailleurs matched up with a Shift Mate... Doug On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 7:56 PM Matthew Williams < matthewwilliamsdes...@gmail.com> wrote: > == > > > SALUKI > > 62cm > > 1550 > > Hercules, CA > > >

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis Old vs New?

The OG Atlantis was a production frameset made in Japan by Toyo, based on the Allrounder, which was first made by Waterford then some other builders RBW used for a bit. Not sure about lug variations in the Toyo Atlantis, but other than color and name it is a completely different bike than that

Re: [RBW] WTB 650b conversion parts for Riv Road Standard

Are you sure this isn’t a Long Low? I have a ‘99 JS Road Std, also with short reach brakes (that probably maxes out between 32 and 35mm) and I don’t recall the Road Std having any other brake option… Doug On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 2:03 PM Jim Bronson wrote: > I also have a Joe Starck Road

[RBW] FYI, Clementine on eBay (not mine)

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[RBW] FYI, Joe Appa on eBay (not mine)

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto 32F mini front rack

Thanks guys. Mine is a 51mm with cantis… Doug On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 10:26 AM greenteadrinkers wrote: > Just for general knowledge, I recently installed a 32F on my 54cm Sam with > Shimano Deore V-Brakes, plenty of clearance, and zero interference. Can't > speak to any other combo, but if you

[RBW] WTB: Nitto 32F mini front rack

Howdy folks, Anybody have one collecting dust? These bolt on to an RBW Joe Appa fork, correct? Thanks, Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

Re: [RBW] Re: Let's talk about the All Rounder

Match was definitely after Joe Starck, my recollection is they were brought online primarily because Joe could not keep up. While I was waiting for my bike, so around ‘99, the match announcement was made. I think match was making the relatively stock ones and Joe was making the more custom ones.

Re: [RBW] WTB 54 Rambouillet or 55 Bleriot

Not sure what sizes the Romulus came in, but one of those would probably work for you as well  Doug On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 4:01 PM mike naranjo wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I know it's a long shot, but thought I'd see if anyone has any leads for a > Rambouillet in a size 54 or a Bleriot in a

Re: [RBW] Rivendell Garage Sale Saturday

Is that custom paint, or was there an orange Atlantis at some point? Doug On Sat, Mar 25, 2023 at 10:08 AM Keith Paugh wrote: > Did you achieve #7? > > (Beautiful Atlantis ) > > k. > > On Mar 25, 2023, at 9:53 AM, Matthew Williams < > matthewwilliamsdes...@gmail.com> wrote: > > -- You

Re: [RBW] Rivendell Garage Sale Saturday

So are the Silver cranks that are allegedly going to be available blems or something, or in any case cheaper than usual? I'd love to get a set on my JA, but I won't be there and I'm still not sure about the old standard 170 triple or the 52/28 double... Doug On Fri, Mar 24, 2023 at 3:44 PM

[RBW] Old RBW road bike like the Rambouillet?

Howdy folks. Wasn't there an RBW road frame BITD that was basically a more basic Rambouillet? I think they were blue, and I don't remember if they were offered concurrently or after. I think there was also a tall version called the Redwood... Thanks, Doug -- You received this message because

Re: [RBW] Re: Let's talk about the All Rounder

Another plus, in 2023, is that most folks looking at pics of that bike probably assume those are 29er or 27.5 wheels and it belongs to a GIANT ;^) Doug On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 10:12 AM iamkeith wrote: > 4. Counter-balancing this, I think small-diameter tires on big frame (mine > is a 60cm)

Re: [RBW] Re: Let's talk about the All Rounder

Pretty much what Joe said here, early RBW Waterford/Starck/Goodrich bikes generally only had seat stay mounts if that. My '99 Starck RS only has dropout eyelets. Very little about the current long chainstay, non-drop bar offerings relates at all to the early(ish) day designs. I would say really

Re: [RBW] Re: Widest fenders that easily fit a Joe Appa?

dwin >> >> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 2:48:37 PM UTC-6 Doug Van Cleve wrote: >> >>> Thanks Paul! Great info, I think Honjos are more scratch than I want to >>> spend though :^( >>> >>> I wonder if getting a set of the V-O 63mm 700

[RBW] Re: FYI, 60cm Sam Hillborne complete in the Paceline classifieds

Now just a frameset and $900: https://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=292940… On Sat, Feb 4, 2023 at 9:56 AM Doug Van Cleve wrote: > Should probably have added, "not mine"... > > > On Sat, Feb 4, 2023 at 9:23 AM Doug Van Cleve wrote: > >> Not sure t

Re: [RBW] Has anybody 650'ed a Riv Road?

FWIW, Mine is a Joe Starck ‘99 (maybe the earlier Waterfords are different), but it fits a true 32mm with Campy dual pivots… Doug On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 10:58 AM 'Peter Bridge' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Has anybody on the list 650'ed one of the old

[RBW] WTT: Brooks Champion Flyer for B.17

Howdy folks. I have a never mounted/ridden honey Champion Flyer that I *think* I bought when Brooks was going out of business BITD. It has lived in my bike room/den since then, never been on a bike or out of the house. I have a use for a honey Brooks, but I suppose I would really rather have a

Re: [RBW] Re: Widest fenders that easily fit a Joe Appa?

dware-polished.html?_gl=1*4zzmn0*_up*MQ..*_ga*MTE3NjA2MTg2MS4xNjc4NDEwMzY0*_ga_LLD45P3CY9*MTY3ODQxMDM2NC4xLjEuMTY3ODQxMDM3MS41My4wLjA > . > > They also sell them in black. > > > On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 5:40:28 PM UTC-5 Doug Van Cleve wrote: > >> Not so fast, Doug! Alas, there are no 60mm

Re: [RBW] Re: Widest fenders that easily fit a Joe Appa?

Not so fast, Doug! Alas, there are no 60mm Berthoud 650B fenders that I can find, so it looks like the V-O 58mm wavies are the best easy choice after all... Doug On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 3:36 PM Doug Van Cleve wrote: > Thanks Edwin :^) These might be my winner, cheaper than anyth

Re: [RBW] Re: Widest fenders that easily fit a Joe Appa?

gt; Edwin > > On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 2:48:37 PM UTC-6 Doug Van Cleve wrote: > >> Thanks Paul! Great info, I think Honjos are more scratch than I want to >> spend though :^( >> >> I wonder if getting a set of the V-O 63mm 700c fenders with the plan to >

Re: [RBW] Re: Widest fenders that easily fit a Joe Appa?

rticle may suggest that could work "You don't need to do a lot at a time. > Little bits over the length of the fender can decrease the radius enough to > work." > > -Dave > > On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 3:48:37 PM UTC-5 Doug Van Cleve wrote: > >> Thanks Pau

Re: [RBW] Re: Widest fenders that easily fit a Joe Appa?

Thanks Paul! Great info, I think Honjos are more scratch than I want to spend though :^( I wonder if getting a set of the V-O 63mm 700c fenders with the plan to reshape them would be nuts? Apparently you just gently bend them as if you’re trying to widen them and it tightens up the curve… I

Re: [RBW] Re: Widest fenders that easily fit a Joe Appa?

ypus. > > -Dave > > On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 2:30:29 PM UTC-5 Doug Van Cleve wrote: > >> Howdy folks. >> >> What are the widest fenders that fit a JA (650B, if it matters) without >> any manipulation? I don’t have mine assembled yet, but I have S

[RBW] Widest fenders that easily fit a Joe Appa?

Howdy folks. What are the widest fenders that fit a JA (650B, if it matters) without any manipulation? I don’t have mine assembled yet, but I have SKS P50s that have previously been on the bike and a set of never mounted V-O 52mm Zeppelins. If something wider fits without cutting etc. I would

Re: [RBW] Velocity Dually Wheelset - $225

Funny question for you Joe, Are the spokes on these porkers double butted (doesn't look like it but maybe hard to tell)? Any opinions about these wheels on a Big Dummy? Thanks, Doug On Sat, Mar 4, 2023 at 9:26 AM Joe D. wrote: > For sale is a wheelset with perhaps the best plus size 26 inch

[RBW] Re: FYI, 60cm Sam Hillborne complete in the Paceline classifieds

Should probably have added, "not mine"... On Sat, Feb 4, 2023 at 9:23 AM Doug Van Cleve wrote: > Not sure this link will work: > > https://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=281364 > > Doug > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Goog

[RBW] FYI, 60cm Sam Hillborne complete in the Paceline classifieds

Not sure this link will work: https://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=281364 Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Leker Leks Albacore bar (Simworks Ramble etc)

Looks kinda cool, love the cottage industry aspect of it. All of these types of bars seem VERY derivative of RBW and/or Nitto products though, IMHO of course. Also pretty sure the steel Nitto stuff will also rust under the right (wrong ;^) conditions... Doug On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 10:31 AM

Re: [RBW] Craigslist (and others) Bikes For Sale: 3

This kind of stuff cracks me up: "No haggling at this price- if you know, it's a good deal!" Doug On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 9:17 PM JAS wrote: > CLEM H 59cm $1500 Eugene, OR > lime-olive color > > https://eugene.craigslist.org/bik/d/eugene-rivendell-clem-smith-jr/7571155810.html > > >

Re: [RBW] Re: Tanaka 68mm fenders on a Joe Appa?

Thanks Nick! On Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 9:47 PM Nick Payne wrote: > They're not going to fit through the fork without a bit of work to narrow > them where they pass through. I have the VO 63mm fenders on my Appaloosa > (they actually measure 63.5mm), and there's only a fraction of a millimetre >

[RBW] Tanaka 68mm fenders on a Joe Appa?

Howdy folks. These seem like a great choice for a good price IF they fit without a bunch of tweaking. Anybody know if they do? Thanks, Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appa sizing vs. PBH

Thanks Joe :^) On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 1:25 PM Joe Bernard wrote: > My PBH is 79, I had a 51 Appa and it fit perfect. You're good to go! > > On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 10:57:11 AM UTC-8 Doug Van Cleve wrote: > >> Oh, I am also wondering if the geometry chart for t

[RBW] Re: Joe Appa sizing vs. PBH

Oh, I am also wondering if the geometry chart for the JA still exists somewhere? I see one for the Atlantis, and I know they are similar... Doug On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 11:52 AM Doug Van Cleve wrote: > Howdy folks. > > So I already have one of these (shamefully not assembled ye

[RBW] Fwd: Joe Appa sizing vs. PBH

Howdy folks. So I already have one of these (shamefully not assembled yet), and I specifically wanted the 650B wheel size. I would say that in general I ride about a 55cm classic road frame and I didn't/don't want to run the bars higher than about saddle height (I run about 72cm, depending on

Re: [RBW] Do the Clem Smith Junior stepthrough bicycles have a used value?

Just a few thoughts, in no particular order... Patience is a virtue selling anything like this. If you have time, just update your sales post(s) and wait. Fancy-ish parts are always worth the most separated from the bike. If you have the original parts, putting them back on and selling off the

Re: [RBW] Re: (Best) metal fenders for Joe Appa?

THOSE seem perfect, and cheap! Wonder if they are temporarily or permanently out of stock? Thanks, Doug On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 6:53 AM Pat Smith wrote: > Soma sells "68mm" Tanaka fenders: > > https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/product/tanaka-fenders-3554?search=Fender-- > > > -- > You received

[RBW] Re: (Best) metal fenders for Joe Appa?

Thanks everybody :^) So the V-O Zeppelins are really too narrow, correct? They would (of course) work but would become the tire size limiter rather than the frame/fork clearance... Does anyone in the U.S. sell the 60mm Berthouds? I also stumbled across the PDW Full Metal Beast 65mm fenders,

[RBW] (Best) metal fenders for Joe Appa?

Howdy folks. I bought one of these off the list last year, came with the SKS vendors as is typical for an RBW bike. I would like to put metal fenders on it, just because. I have an unused set of the first generation V-O Zepplins, which would work, but I suspect wider is really ideal based on the

[RBW] Re: Best smallish rear rack for long chainstay models?

forward. If such a rack doesn't exist, I wonder if there will be one at some point? Thanks again, Doug On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 11:00 AM Doug Van Cleve wrote: > Howdy folks. > > Despite the whole front basket thing, AFAIK GP has never really been pro > front loading. It seems to me the l

Re: [RBW] Re: New Here. I am thinking of selling my Betty Foy, any advice on value?

You got it Patrick, knee wear and tear ;^) Doug On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 12:21 PM 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > - I'm unsure what Doug is referring to about "dangerous" low saddle. > Saddles can be "too low" (whatever that is) and ride just

Re: [RBW] New Here. I am thinking of selling my Betty Foy, any advice on value?

Hey cinzaw. If I'm understanding what you wrote, you want to be able to touch both feet to the ground while seated on the saddle? If that is what you're saying, that is not really related to the bike fitting you or not. That saddle height will also be far too low for efficient and safe

Re: [RBW] Re: Possible to remove cork grips w/out destroying them?

r me, because I didn't know if the bars I > installed would be right for me. > > On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 11:44 AM Mark Anderson wrote: > >> On Friday, April 19, 2019 at 9:09:20 AM UTC-6, Doug Van Cleve wrote: >>> >>> >>> I gather these are always glued on and the

[RBW] Possible to remove cork grips w/out destroying them?

Howdy folks. I gather these are always glued on and there are at least a couple adhesive options. Have any of you succeeded in removing a pair without completely destroying it? I have a nice looking pair on some Albatross', but I want to try a Chocomoose on the bike and reusing the grips would

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Chocomoose bar

Thanks :^) On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 4:50 PM J Imler wrote: > My Chocomoose measure 54cm. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Metal Fabrication of headbadge type thing?

Jen Green: https://www.headbadges.com/ ! She can work from a drawing or photo... Doug On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 1:43 PM 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > My Boots will be named Beorn and thus my wife wants to get a bear badge > (brass or metal of

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Chocomoose bar

Well I just found this under the RBW Choco Moose listing: " Assuming price is not the decider, how to pick: If you’re putting it on a mountain bike or a bike for loaded touring, and that bike isn’t too small for you, get the CHOCO-MOOSE. Why not? It’ll work great. For any roadish or touringish

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Chocomoose bar

Thanks Patrick, It never occurred to me that it might be different... I don't know what the RBW specs were, can't find anything on the website now. Blue Lug seems to say theirs is 54cm wide, at least I assume that is width since I can't think of anything else it might be. Anybody know if that

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Chocomoose bar

Hey Joe, I have no idea what RBW was selling them for when they had them. I just Googled "chocomoose" and Blue Lug popped up. Shipping is not super cheap, but if you include one of their t-shirts in your order, shipping is free and you get a shirt for a bit less than just the bars shipped...

[RBW] Re: WTB: Chocomoose bar

Howdy folks, Still looking for one of these bad boys. Looks like Blue Lug has them for about $83, and shipping is free if I buy a moderately overpriced t-shirt, so I probably don't want to spend much more than 90 bucks or so... Anyone? Thanks, Doug On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 10:58 PM Doug Van

Re: [RBW] Re: Touch-up for the mustard/butternut color?

Thanks Weston, please send us an update with your impressions! Doug On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 2:09 PM Weston Hein wrote: > I have a mustard Clem and was going to order a RAL 1027 touch up pen. Not > sure if it's exact but should be close enough for me. Hope this helps! > >

Re: [RBW] Best smallish rear rack for long chainstay models?

Thanks Jeremy :^) No particular goal, probably not looking for a rack that is optimized for big panniers though... Doug On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 11:58 AM Jeremy Till wrote: > What kind of bags are you thinking about using? Kind of determines which > rack is best. I've had my Nitto Big Back

[RBW] Touch-up for the mustard/butternut color?

Howdy folks. Is there an official or unofficial best matching touch-up for this color? I believe it was used on the Joe Appa and Clem, not sure if there were any others. Thanks, Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Best smallish rear rack for long chainstay models?

Howdy folks. Despite the whole front basket thing, AFAIK GP has never really been pro front loading. It seems to me the long back end is perfect for a rear rack, assuming the stays and what-not are long enough. What rear racks look good on these and fit well? Thanks, Doug -- You received

Re: [RBW] Chocomoose on 51cm Joe Appa?

Thanks Ryan, I will check it out :^) On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 9:53 AM Ryan M. wrote: > Other recipients: > I have a 51cm Appaloosa and a Chocomoose bar that I originally was using > on the bike; I am not using a regular bullmoose bar on it. You can slam it > all the way down in the steer tube.

Re: [RBW] Chocomoose on 51cm Joe Appa?

Thanks Bill :^) On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 6:41 AM Bill Lindsay wrote: > Email Mark at Riv. He’s certainly buillt more 51cm Appas than anyone else > on earth and would definitely be able to tell you if the Chocomoose stem is > slammable on a 51. He probably won’t be able to tell you what your

Re: [RBW] Chocomoose on 51cm Joe Appa?

ipping from bluelug.com - I just bought the same > bars from them and threw in a t-shirt I liked to qualify for free > shipping. > > But Shoji's right, that setup has some rise. > > On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 4:25 PM Doug Van Cleve > wrote: > > > > Howdy folks, > >

Re: [RBW] Chocomoose on 51cm Joe Appa?

Thanks, folks :^) Joe, it looks like the quill was the whole way down without bottoming out in the steerer? That might be good enough for me... BTW, you had a 51cm Joe Appa and got rid of it to get a nearly the same 53cm MIT Atlantis? I was pondering which to pursue, it seems like everything

[RBW] Chocomoose on 51cm Joe Appa?

Howdy folks, I am in the process of buying a 51cm Joe Appa. It is complete, but I always envisioned Chocomooses on mine if I got one and it doesn't have them. I also assumed I would "slam" them, I don't generally run bars above saddle height. My saddle height is somewhere in the 71-72cm range,

Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

Silver cranks w/ black chainrings (or at least the outer) might look nice... Doug On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 7:25 PM Joe Bernard wrote: > Good point, Doug, I have a couple all-silver cranks on other bikes. I may > do some swapping around among silvers cuz I'd like to use the black one on > my

[RBW] WTB: Chocomoose bar

Howdy folks. Looks like a Joe Appa will probably be heading my way in the relatively near future. It doesn’t have a Chocomoose though, and I always thought if I got one it should. Anybody have an unloved Chocomoose gathering dust? Thanks, Doug -- You received this message because you are

Re: [RBW] Biggest tire/fender combo on a Joe Appa?

Thanks Ryan, that would be great for dirt riding so good to know... Doug On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 12:57 PM Ryan M. wrote: > I don’t run fenders but my Appaloosa, 51cm with 650b Velocity Cliffhanger > rims, can run the 57mm Schwalbe G one with a bit of room for dirt and mud > but not room for

Re: [RBW] Re: Biggest tire/fender combo on a Joe Appa?

big people have gone with the Appaloosa. Also, I >> think the new Atlantis has the same tire clearance (the geometry chart says >> they're the same), so maybe Atlantis owner experiences would be helpful too? >> >> Jonathan >> >> On Wednesday, March 20, 2019 at 6:53:3

[RBW] Biggest tire/fender combo on a Joe Appa?

Howdy folks. I will probably be getting my hands on a JA in the relatively near future. I think what I'll probably want to do is put some alloy fenders on it that will work with the largest tire that fits with fenders. I suppose it might matter that I'm talking about 650B. What is the biggest

Re: [RBW] Re: Cargo e-bikes are an amazing concept, but the options are imperfect

Not sure cargo bikes are for me, and pretty sure eBikes are not for me, but I always thought the Bullitt was pretty darn cool and there are a couple e-versions of it now: http://www.larryvsharry.com/steps-ebullitt-technical-info/. It does use some kind of Shimano system, so maybe that is

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA - 1999 Riv All Rounder

That is old skool Riv there, tripleized Mavic crank, non-aero brake levers, friction shifting long cage Simplex rear derailleur... What a great color, my '99 Joex2 RRS is the same color. Congrats, Matt! Doug On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 12:33 PM Matt Beecher wrote: > What All-Rounder. Nothing to

Re: [RBW] Repair and Wet Paint Services on West Coast?

Noah's work is gorgeous, but a paint job from anybody like that (Joe Bell, etc.) IS a small fortune. Check out Allan Wanta: http://www.wantaframes.com/. He isn't west coast any more, but he has a lot of experience with complicated, factory replica paint jobs and better than average pricing.

[RBW] WTB: 51cm Joe Appaloosa, preferably that mustard color

Howdy folks. Anybody have one of these collecting dust, sad and neglected in a corner? My preference would probably the complete stock build, but I would consider anything not super fancy (unless of course super fancy is selling for a similar price to ordinary ;^) I REALLY want to try the

Re: [RBW] Rivendell Timeline

I ordered my Riv Road Standard in ‘98 and received it in ‘99. It could have been match built, but I specifically asked for Joe Starck to build it. They were encouraging people to go with match, but left it up to the buyer at that point. I’m pretty sure the intent was for match to replace

Re: [RBW] Re: FS-Riv Road Custom frame/fork 54cm

It has a "56" engraved/stamped in the BB shell, I suspect that is a C-T measurement and I'm also pretty sure the RRS had a slight upslope in the TT as well. Remember, this is a custom. GP wouldn't do anything too weird, but it could have a shorter TT than standard RBW geometry. I'm pretty sure

[RBW] Joe Appa vs. new Atlantis?

Howdy folks. Apparently my first lazy attempt to post this resulted in it being buried in an unrelated thread, as did my attempted re-post. What the heck? Anyway, here it is again... Not sure if the current RBW offerings are really my style, but the Joe Appa piqued my curiousity when it came

Re: [RBW] Well done Cheviot marketing

Hey Patrick, thanks. I have been on iBOB forever (although not as much as I used to be) and RBW since it started (I think), just not a lot of posting here. FWIW, I have a Joe Starck built '99 Riv Road Standard, burnt orange, spec'ed by GP after fitting me in person and built for me. It has had

[RBW] Joe Appa vs new Atlantis?

Howdy folks. Apparently my lazy attempt to post this resulted in it being buried in an unrelated thread, thanks for the heads up IanA :^) Here it is again... Not sure the current RBW offerings are really my style, but the Joe Appa piqued my curiousity when it came out. I see that it is

Re: [RBW] Well done Cheviot marketing

The Cheviot seems pretty cool, I personally didn't like that email much. More than ever, there are LOTS of "road" bikes that fit big cushy tires, aren't quick handling and easily allow (pretty) high bars. Not sure it matters much if a CF or aluminum frame breaks vs steel getting all bent up,

[RBW] Joe Appa vs new Atlantis?

Howdy folks. Not sure the current RBW offerings are really my style, but the Joe Appa piqued my curiousity. I see that it is currently not available, but the new Atlantis seems very similar. I would have gone for a 51cm/650B Joe, and it seems like the 53cm Atlantis would be the best choice

Re: [RBW] Should I be concerned?

I should have mentioned that RBW bikes in general are pretty sturdy and I would ride it without concern. You might consider getting the frame/fork alignment checked, although if it steers and tracks normally it probably won't buy you anything... Doug On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 8:48 AM, Doug Van

Re: [RBW] Should I be concerned?

Looks to me like it might have had at least a mild front end collision, although the cracks etc. would generally be on the bottom of the top and down tubes... Maybe a roof rack incident? The BB marks might be from a kickstand, highly unlikely the BB shell has been compromised in any way (IMHO,

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

​Howdy folks ​​ I think the original Atlantis was really more of a somewhat stoutened All Rounder (which was intended to be good for a lot of things ;^) than a true touring bike. Also, going back to the beginning, IMHO RBW wasn't really about hand crafted bikes (although that aspect was

Re: [RBW] Re: Eat Bacon Don't Jog--Goal set, goal met

Pretty sure it is a similar idea/effect as "bulletproof" coffee... Doug On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 7:12 AM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > On 03/08/2018 08:45 AM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > >> Steve asked why put coconut oil in your coffee. >> >> One tablespoon is about 120 calories of

Re: [RBW] Re: actual Roadini geometry specs?

My '99 JS Riv Road Std has a so-called "baseball bat" down tube that is 28.6 at the head tube and 31.8 at the BB... Doug On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 6:25 PM, Eric Daume wrote: > That's interesting, on the 61cm/XL at least, it looks like the top tube > goes from 28.6 OD at the

Re: [RBW] WTB / WTT Tektro R559 with hex nut

Hey Jack. Not sure if you'd be into this, but if you have a set of normal recessed nut brakes you can use the rear on the front and the front on the rear. You put the short bolt brake on the fork and put the nut inside the steerer. In the back, use an external nut with a washer or one of those

Re: [RBW] Re: Jan's Yellow Rivendell

com> wrote: > Accounting for inflation, $900 in 1995 equals $1,444 in 2017, so unless > Jan paid less than $900 back then, it did not sell for more than he paid > for it. > > On Thursday, August 17, 2017 at 4:18:46 PM UTC-4, Doug Van Cleve wrote: >> >> It depends

Re: [RBW] Re: Jan's Yellow Rivendell

It depends on your perspective... Yes, you couldn't buy a new frameset built like this one for that amount of moolah. Very few things increase in value though, and it sold for more that Jan paid for it, so I would say it was above market value. I am sure its provenance drove up the cost at

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: Richard Sachs(!) Rivendell on CL

Don't get me wrong, it's super cool that e-Richie built it. For me, that adds some value but it certainly doesn't double the value or anything close to it… On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 1:44 PM Joe Bernard wrote: > Yes, this is what I was alluding to in my earlier comment. I

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