Bill thanks for highlighting the 4 point racks which alleviate the risk. I
also love that the Nitto 27F has removable pannier extensions, in case I
don't need those on a daily basis. I think I'm on the right track now :)

On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Bill Lindsay <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Michele asked for thoughts about Rivendell's guidance to use a tether with
> a Nitto 32F front rack, calling it a junky addition.
>
> Rivendell is being very cautious with your safety, it's true.  Every rack
> in the world that attaches in three points like the 32F has a bolt on
> attachment the fork crown.  It is very unlikely that attachment point will
> fail, on the 32F or any other similar 3-point attachment rack.  Very very
> unlikely.  But, if that attachment point does fail, it is extremely likely
> that the rider's head will hit the ground very very hard.  So, the
> likelihood is tiny, but the severity is extreme.  Rivendell would prefer to
> lose a few sales by recommending caution.  Every 3-point rack in the world
> has the same risk, but only Rivendell is cautious enough to warn you about
> it.  It's not that they think the rack will fail, but they don't think your
> head should get slammed if you accidentally overload your rack and forget
> to inspect your equipment from time to time. They trust the rack, but it's
> harder to trust all possible human users of the rack.
>
> Rivendell and some other vendors won't sell or recommend metal fenders for
> similar reasons.  Metal fenders are very reliable, when used correctly.
> Various human mistakes, along with bad luck, can conspire to lead to a
> metal front fender putting your head on the ground as well.
>
> The 32F rack is much more appropriate for your Hunqapillar than an M12.
> I'm using four point racks more and more often now.  A four point front
> rack has no single point of failure.  If one thing fails, it flops around
> and makes noise, giving you the opportunity to stop and fix it.  My
> favorite is the Nitto 27F.  Another excellent four point rack is the
> immense Nitto 34F, the Big Front Rack.  I run that on my tandem.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
>
> On Saturday, June 24, 2017 at 9:03:17 AM UTC-7, Michele wrote:
>>
>> Thanks all for the input. I've never had a front rack before, and it's a
>> bit confusing. I notice that in the 32F page, Riv says, "ALWAYS use this
>> rack with a tether." Seems like the rack should be well-made enough not to
>> require that junky addition. What are the thoughts of those with experience?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Michele
>>
>> On Friday, June 23, 2017 at 5:13:22 PM UTC-7, Michele wrote:
>>>
>>> What are people using for a small rack to support a rando bag or basket?
>>> I'm wondering if the Nitto M-12 rack would work? Is there something more
>>> appropriate?
>>>
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