Thanks to everyone who gave me feed back on how various bike racks worked 
with Rivs, fenders, racks, and wide bars.  In the end we bought the 1UpUSA 
rack and offer this initial review

Bottom line - Rack is an A, customer service is gentlemen's C.

First the rack.  It is as solid and almost as easy to set up as they claim. 
 Once learned it is pretty simple to live with and works well with my large 
Saluki and Pat's Betty.  Pictures here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/25287678@N08/sets/72157655639570388

It was easy enough to get the rack onto the car, and adding or removing the 
second carrier is literally a one minute job.  I initially ran into trouble 
getting it set up to work with fenders on 650B tires and had enough 
frustration to almost send it back.  After some experimenting however I got 
it rock solid.

The rack comes preconfigured to work with 700C tires, without fenders or a 
rack.  I bought a pair of the fender adapters to add to the rear supports 
but found two problems.  The rear carrier pinched, crushed actually, the 
fender stays before getting tight to the fender and the front attachment 
didn't quite get to the tire before hitting the fender.  I lowered both the 
front and rear bars so that they would hit the wheels sooner.  (you can see 
in the pictures how the tire stops have been lowered.  This worked well in 
the front but continued to bend the rear fender stays.  I went ahead and 
pushed the rear tight.  This held the fender very firmly but allowed the 
wheel to move across the width of the two vertical wheel holders.  When I 
released the carrier from the wheel I found that the stays immediately 
bounced back into position.  You can see this clearly in one of the photos. 
 I decided to simply add toe straps around the rear wheels, which held them 
firmly to one side.

I took the rig out for a shakedown cruise which included 5 miles of dirt 
road, 5 miles of bad chip and seal and 5 miles of smooth highway.  Pat 
drove while I sat in the back seat and observed the bikes.  Given the 
amount of weight cantilevered off the back of the car and the roughness of 
the roads there was plenty of movement of the cars suspension but 
absolutely none between the bike and carrier nor the carrier and the hitch.

The second bike carrier can be removed very easily and the whole rig then 
folds up out of the way, much better than any Tule, Yakima, or Saris rack 
that I have seen.

So A for easy on and off and A for solidness.  A for fitting two complex 
bikes without any interference.

Service.  Before ordering I sent two emails to the company seeking 
clarification of their shipping policy.  I never got an answer.  As I was 
working through the fender / rack / 650B set up, I called them.  I told the 
nice lady at the other end of the line that I was having problems with the 
set up, and "before I send this back to you I would like to talk to someone 
who can speak about these issues."  She promised that someone would call me 
but no one ever has.

C for customer service.

Michael


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