Re: [RBW] Always heard this about latex tubes

one other place latex tubes will get you. If you have a tire cut that goes through the casing, they will balloon out and pop. For this reason, it's good to carry a butyl tube, which is not elastic enough to do this, and will get you home. ps - the weak beads is why I finally gave up on

Re: [RBW] Always heard this about latex tubes

nothing "really, now" about it. Latex tubes were the first. They go hand-in-hand with supple tires - they already come in the best fine-casing tubulars (sew-ups). they were also in every pneumatic tire

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Thanks, good information. On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 8:12 PM, Ron Mc wrote: > they transform even the smaller sizes of Compass EL tires (or any fine > casing/ supple tires) - they run quieter and that, by definition, means the > run faster, because noise is kinetic energy

Re: [RBW] Always heard this about latex tubes

Alas, still none apparently in 559 or 571 sizes, though -- the triathlon/650C sites all agree that the only latex in 26" are in tubulars. I wonder if the very light (70 gram) Michelin butyls are as/almost as good? And there is this, which I may try: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr2zEulcqNE

Re: [RBW] Always heard this about latex tubes

New to the supple tube zeitgeist and was wondering: 1. Really?!?! First supple tires and now supple tubes? ;) 2. Is their any research on safety of butyl vs. latex? Specifically with flats resulting in catastrophic tears? Like does a simple puncture in latex develop into a blowout tear faster

Re: [RBW] Always heard this about latex tubes

they transform even the smaller sizes of Compass EL tires (or any fine casing/ supple tires) - they run quieter and that, by definition, means the run faster, because noise is kinetic energy being lost by the tire. They also reward lower pressures - they actually become too bouncy at too high

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Thanks. I'll be very interested in hearing any further perceptions. I really must look further for 650C tubes in latex. On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 1:42 PM, René Sterental wrote: > Got it. I won't risk it. The link to those rated 42mm is worth > checking out. Those should fit

Re: [RBW] Always heard this about latex tubes

Rene, I believe I was mistaken and the 42mm is is just the valve stem length. (though 42mm tire width is 1.65") On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 2:42:09 PM UTC-5, René wrote: > > Got it. I won't risk it. The link to those rated 42mm is worth > checking out. Those should fit well. > >> >> -- You

Re: [RBW] Always heard this about latex tubes

Got it. I won't risk it. The link to those rated 42mm is worth checking out. Those should fit well. Patrick, the subtleness of your descriptions sometimes escapes me, but I'd venture to say that the latex tubes on the Compass tires makes them feel a lot smoother. Whether they actually roll

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On 05/23/2016 10:17 AM, René Sterental wrote: I saw these, but I'm concerned they'd be too big for 650b 42mm (1.6") wide tires, as they state 1.9-2.2". What would be the risk of trying to go with a wider tube in a narrower tire, assuming you are able to mount it without pinching it against

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Re: [RBW] Always heard this about latex tubes

I take it the toothbrush analogy describes the smoothness of the latex tubes. What about speed, or the sensation of speed? (For me, this is felt *not* by buzz but by feeling of torque/cadence related to effort.) My Elk Pass tires just feel easier to pedal than the not-bad-themselves Kojaks. On

Re: [RBW] Always heard this about latex tubes

quite simply, all butyl tubes feel like an electric toothbrush next to latex tubes. I have used Stans in my latex tubes with a large glass shard in a Barlow, and the Stans lasted as long as the remaining tire tread. On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 10:28:02 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: > > To

Re: [RBW] Always heard this about latex tubes

To confirm: you noticed a difference in the Compass tires with latex instead of butyl tubes? Certainly Compass ELs with standard tubes roll wonderfully. That would indeed be an amazing ride, just short, I daresay, of running Compass tires tubeless. I've looked for 559 X skinny and 650C ("See")

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Note, it's also possible they're simply re-rating them and changing the package to hit the 650b market. Could be the reason for the CRC closeout price... On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 10:07:08 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: > > Especially if you're planning to stock up on 700c (try ribble?) possibly >

Re: [RBW] Always heard this about latex tubes

Especially if you're planning to stock up on 700c (try ribble?) possibly add a couple of these to kick up to free shipping level. If anything, all you're going to face is a little thicker tube, but the slight diameter stretch is going to keep them from buckling anywhere. If it doesn't work,

Re: [RBW] Always heard this about latex tubes

I saw these, but I'm concerned they'd be too big for 650b 42mm (1.6") wide tires, as they state 1.9-2.2". What would be the risk of trying to go with a wider tube in a narrower tire, assuming you are able to mount it without pinching it against the rim? Would it crease inside the tire and

Re: [RBW] Always heard this about latex tubes

All correct there, Rene. It seems redundant to say these improve supple tires, but they do indeed. I flatted last week, put in quick butyl spare on roadside and was delighted to get my latex back in - rode it yesterday and giggled the whole 35 mi. Don't know of any for 650B, but Michelin

Re: [RBW] Always heard this about latex tubes

Installed the latex tubes on the 35mm Bon Jon Pass tires on my Homer and went for a 42 mile ride today to continue building my aerobic base. All I can say is WOW!!! The combination of the Compass tires and the latex tubes made the bike roll so incredibly smoother. Areas on the route where I would

Re: [RBW] Always heard this about latex tubes

Thanks! On Tuesday, May 3, 2016, Ron Mc wrote: > Rene, should work fine - these really stretch. > > On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 4:11:24 PM UTC-5, René wrote: >> >> I assume the larger size labeled for 28-35mm tires will work well with >> the 38mm Barlow Pass tired, right?

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Rene, should work fine - these really stretch. On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 4:11:24 PM UTC-5, René wrote: > > I assume the larger size labeled for 28-35mm tires will work well with the > 38mm Barlow Pass tired, right? How about with the Soma 42mm tires? > > René > > On Monday, May 2, 2016, Ron

Re: [RBW] Always heard this about latex tubes

I assume the larger size labeled for 28-35mm tires will work well with the 38mm Barlow Pass tired, right? How about with the Soma 42mm tires? René On Monday, May 2, 2016, Ron Mc wrote: > ps - especially on the Barlows (but even on the 27mm Open Paves) I love > the sound

Re: [RBW] Always heard this about latex tubes

ps - especially on the Barlows (but even on the 27mm Open Paves) I love the sound they make on tar strips. They sound (and feel) like an under--pressure soccer ball. If you over-pressure them, they bounce like a soccer ball. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

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Thanks Ron! I'll give them a try. On Monday, May 2, 2016, Ron Mc wrote: > Hi Rene, > Challenge makes a large cross/gravel size - best online price is Outside > Outfiters. I just received two in the mail from there today - I keep these > stocked. > Price is about the same

Re: [RBW] Always heard this about latex tubes

Hi Rene, Challenge makes a large cross/gravel size - best online price is Outside Outfiters. I just received two in the mail from there today - I keep these stocked. Price is about the same as Schwalbe Ultralight. The difference is vulcanized butyl v. super-elastic latex. Wiggle for some

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Who makes latex tubes? And how do they compare to the Schwalbe ultralight tubes? On Saturday, April 30, 2016, Sofia Torres wrote: > YUP. > > I've had a latex CX tube survive after my tire was punctured by the > largest thorn I've ever seen (about 1" long and very very sharp

[RBW] Always heard this about latex tubes

Something to say about soft tires and low pressures. I rode 40 miles today on The Italian Huffy, with the 38mm Compass Barlow Pass. I picked up a thumbtack in my front tire (40 psi) and heard it going around 1xR. I stopped - it wasn't completely planted, but it was deep. I was spooked