Re: [RBW] Dura-Ace and Japanese Recycling

2022-12-10 Thread Russell Duncan
Beautiful building with all those recycled windows. A nightmare of a job to reglaze them. A Zen effort perhaps. Russell Duncan Leverett, MA USA On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 1:42:18 PM UTC-5 John Dewey wrote: > David, I've matched a beautiful IRD Defiant 94 BCD (I think my only > crankset

Re: [RBW] Dura-Ace and Japanese Recycling

2022-12-10 Thread Russell Duncan
How about some Italian recycling. I’ve coupled Suntour late 70s barcons with parts from a mid-1990s Campagnolo Record 8-spd group, including the rear derailleur, the wheel set, a stock 13-26 Campagnolo 8-sped cassette modified with a 28 tooth low gear, an early 80s Record front derailleur, and a

Re: [RBW] Dura-Ace and Japanese Recycling

2022-12-06 Thread Nick A.
Dave - I'm running a 46/30 on my Atlantis with a Shimano 600 tricolor FD and if works splendidly. Nick near D.C. On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 2:48:03 PM UTC-5 David Hallerman wrote: > That’s much like how I’ve found Dura-Ace FDs of that era, the originally > 8-speed 7410 in specific, are

Re: [RBW] Dura-Ace and Japanese Recycling

2022-12-06 Thread Eric Marth
John, I've never been to Japan! But I've collected a few tidbits in the olde mental filing cabinet. I'd love to do some riding in Japan one day, hopefully with some shinrin-yoku included. On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 6:46:35 PM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote: > Groovy, Eric! That's on the

Re: [RBW] Dura-Ace and Japanese Recycling

2022-12-06 Thread John Rinker
Groovy, Eric! That's on the island of Shikoku. Have you lived in Japan? Very cool article on the Zero Waste facility. I was, however, nonplussed by this statement: "Kamikatsu's main industry was once forestry, but all that remains of this today are neglected cedar forests." The many cedar

Re: [RBW] Dura-Ace and Japanese Recycling

2022-12-06 Thread John Dewey
David, I've matched a beautiful IRD Defiant 94 BCD (I think my only crankset that didn't come from you  ) with 46 /30 rings and an early 2000s 960 DA XTR front derailer. It all works perfectly together. Cheers / Jock Dewey On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 11:48 AM David Hallerman wrote: > That’s much

Re: [RBW] Dura-Ace and Japanese Recycling

2022-12-05 Thread Russell Duncan
I’ve used a 2016 Campagnolo Chorus FD with 46 x 34 and 46 x 30 doubles with good results. The Chorus derailleur was originally from a 52 x 39 setup. Russell Duncan Leverett, MA USA On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 4:46:03 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote: > For my Rivendell Custom, I use a Dura-Ace

Re: [RBW] Dura-Ace and Japanese Recycling

2022-12-05 Thread lconley
For my Rivendell Custom, I use a Dura-Ace FD-7800 (31.8 integral clamp, 10-speed era) with my RenéHERSE 42-26 double. Chain is a Dura-Ace 11 speed (ultrasonically cleaned and waxed), cassette is a Dura-Ace 12-28 11 speed. Rear derailleur is a Dura-Ace RD-7700GS (large pulleys, 9-speed era).

Re: [RBW] Dura-Ace and Japanese Recycling

2022-12-05 Thread David Hallerman
That’s much like how I’ve found Dura-Ace FDs of that era, the originally 8-speed 7410 in specific, are perfect for the 48/34 compact doubles I run on many of my bikes. I wonder how those late 20th century FDs would do with subcompact doubles, like a 46/30. Has anyone here done that? Dave, who

Re: [RBW] Dura-Ace and Japanese Recycling

2022-12-05 Thread Michael Connors
I just checked mine. It is 28.6 at the top, but 31.8 where the FD mounts. On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 4:36:24 AM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote: > The website description is fascinatingly murky, like I couldn't make it > murkier if I tried. The seattube ovalizes as it heads down to the BB shell

Re: [RBW] Dura-Ace and Japanese Recycling

2022-12-04 Thread John Rinker
Well, Ryan, it is a dream bike, so it's no wonder it showed up in yours. Someday I hope to ride one of the newer Atlantii to have an understanding of how they've changed over time, but I do really love the way this Toyo model rides. Cheers, John On Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 12:53:48 PM

Re: [RBW] Dura-Ace and Japanese Recycling

2022-12-04 Thread Ryan
That is a beauty...and even more intriguing is your *gomi* story. So intriguing I dreamed I rode an Atlantis last night...but I can't tell you whether it was a *gomi* harvest or not, unfortunately. On Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 2:26:03 AM UTC-6 Luke Hendrickson wrote: > Positively gorgeous

Re: [RBW] Dura-Ace and Japanese Recycling

2022-12-04 Thread Luke Hendrickson
Positively gorgeous bike! On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 6:28:57 PM UTC-8 Scott wrote: > Thanks for sharing, John! > > Great picture...and a GREAT bicycle! I love its proportions. > > You exceeded expectations[image: Emoji] > > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 04:18:16 PM MST, John Rinker < >

Re: [RBW] Dura-Ace and Japanese Recycling

2022-12-03 Thread Joe Bernard
The website description is fascinatingly murky, like I couldn't make it murkier if I tried. The seattube ovalizes as it heads down to the BB shell and I believe it is indeed 31.8 at the fd section (the MIT model). Toyo/Waterford was 28.6. On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 1:46:00 AM UTC-8 Nick

Re: [RBW] Dura-Ace and Japanese Recycling

2022-12-03 Thread Nick Payne
On Saturday, 3 December 2022 at 2:24:41 pm UTC+11 Scott wrote: > John, the Atlantis I purchased new from Riv last month takes a 31.8 clamp > FD. Yours is a 28.6? They must have changed along the way? > I think you'll find your Atlantis seat tube is 28.6mm diameter (AKA 1⅛"). That's what the

Re: [RBW] Dura-Ace and Japanese Recycling

2022-12-02 Thread John Rinker
Hey Scott, I certainly cannot speak to the new Atlanti, but mine definitely takes a 28.6. Looking forward to a photo of your build. Cheers, John On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 7:24:41 PM UTC-8 Scott wrote: > John, the Atlantis I purchased new from Riv last month takes a 31.8 clamp > FD. Yours

Re: [RBW] Dura-Ace and Japanese Recycling

2022-12-02 Thread 'Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch
John, the Atlantis I purchased new from Riv last month takes a 31.8 clamp FD. Yours is a 28.6? They must have changed along the way? On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 08:15:29 PM MST, John Rinker wrote: You bet, Mike. My Hunq has the original XT FD from my first mountain bike from the

Re: [RBW] Dura-Ace and Japanese Recycling

2022-12-02 Thread John Rinker
You bet, Mike. My Hunq has the original XT FD from my first mountain bike from the early 90s, and I've got some Deer Heads that I'm saving for something, someday. On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 6:42:48 PM UTC-8 Mike Godwin wrote: > John discovered the older FD magic. All my bikes have older

Re: [RBW] Dura-Ace and Japanese Recycling

2022-12-02 Thread Mike Godwin
John discovered the older FD magic. All my bikes have older (late 20th century) generally two-ring FDs - Campy, Suntour, Shimano - shifting triples. I really like the aesthetics and function. Mike "scrounging the bike kitchen for gems" Godwin SLO CA On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 5:48:30 PM

Re: [RBW] Dura-Ace and Japanese Recycling

2022-12-02 Thread John Rinker
Hey Aaron and Scott, I'll snap a photo when I'm out and about tomorrow. The Atlantis is a 2005 (I believe)Toyo Scott, regarding the FD, it was a braze-on mounted one so I bought an 28.6 clamp for it. No fussing around with it and it shifts beautifully. Cheers, John On Friday, December 2,