[RBW] Hillborne for the hills?

2011-05-04 Thread TSW
Hi all, I've searched all over forum archives and can't seem to find much discussion on this question: how does the Sam climb? I'm very close to pulling the trigger on a 52 (ideally I'd ride a 54, and 56 is just a tad too big), my 26 yr old Trek 560 ready to retire, and I'm used to a more

Re: [RBW] Hillborne for the hills?

2011-05-04 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Here is one for the con side. I own and love my custom Rivs (I've owned 3, still have 2) which climb superbly. I briefly owned a Sam Hill and found it far more sluggish on flats and hills and, more to the point (since the SH was set up as a heavy duty touring/light off road use bike while the

Re: [RBW] Hillborne for the hills?

2011-05-04 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2011-05-04 at 10:38 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: Here is one for the con side. I own and love my custom Rivs (I've owned 3, still have 2) which climb superbly. I briefly owned a Sam Hill and found it far more sluggish on flats and hills and, more to the point (since the SH was set up as

Re: [RBW] Hillborne for the hills?

2011-05-04 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2011-05-04 at 07:53 -0700, TSW wrote: I'm used to a more aggressive geometry for climbing the hills around here. What do you mean by aggressive geometry? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send

Re: [RBW] Hillborne for the hills?

2011-05-04 Thread Lee Chae
Hi TS. You probably already know this, but note what tires you're testing with the Sam. I find noticeable differences in the way my Quickbeam feels climbing when I switch among 32, 38, and 42mm tires, even though all of these are supple sidewall-type tires. Have fun! Lee On Wed, May 4, 2011 at

Re: [RBW] Hillborne for the hills?

2011-05-04 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I mean wandering in the bike sense, not the car sense. That is, when I rode uphill seated in a low gear, the front end wanted to go its own way and not mine. The Herse (for example) is much better in this regard without for all that being far worse on downhills. Patrick no ball joints on my bikes