Re: [RBW] On tire supple-itude

I'm also a big fan of jack brown green. I normally ride Thunderburt 2.1 or 2.25 in the lightest most supple variant (whatever it's called, Schwalbe naming protocol is in serious need of a rebrand) and Barlow Pass EL 38's on the pavement. They are all wonderful. But the Jack Brown rolls

Re: [RBW] On tire supple-itude

Except at 40mph downhill as you hit a tight curve and discover your front tire is going flat. That said, "flatproof" tires are not flatproof in my experience, so then I figure I may as well go with supple. But not without a slight increase in risk. Nick On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at

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The Grand Bois Hetre is renowned for its longevity and relatively low flat rate. I use the regular version and it's cheaper than the EL. I never heard of anyone regretting the use of these tires, although maybe someone here will prove me wrong! Toshi On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 3:17 PM, ian m

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I agree. I also have had the same if not fewer flats since swapping to wider, more supple tires at lower pressure. Adding in a couple ounces of Stan's to my tubes was more out of boredom and tinkering than real need. -Justin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

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Hi Lungimsam, I recently switched Rumpkins to Hetre and it felt more like a bike change than a tire swap. The difference is staggering and nothing short of amazing. James Chang On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 10:58 PM, Lungimsam wrote: > 0 the worst - 10 the best: > > 700c

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Compass is as close to you as it is to me, no farther away than the mailbox. On 03/23/2016 06:17 PM, ian m wrote: Unfortunately the 650b hasn't really made any inroads here yet so I have basically 0 options for looking at tires -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: [RBW] On tire supple-itude

Living in Pittsburgh, PA these both look like the roads I ride daily, along with some nowhere-near-level brick and thrashed cobbestone streets thrown in for good measure. I think the smoothest surfaces I ride often tend to be the trail shortcuts through the large city park I live next to.

Re: [RBW] On tire supple-itude

Jack Brown Greens are great! I think they're pretty far up there on the suppleness scale. Just a step below Grand Bois or Challenge and a step above Marathon Supremes. On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 1:40 PM, Kieran J wrote: > I completely agree with your assessment of the JBGs. > > A

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Err, I meant wealth - not dearth. KJ On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 4:40:52 PM UTC-4, Kieran J wrote: > > I completely agree with your assessment of the JBGs. > > A lot of people don't consider them to be in the same league as the > Compass offerings, but I totally do. They get slagged a lot

Re: [RBW] On tire supple-itude

I completely agree with your assessment of the JBGs. A lot of people don't consider them to be in the same league as the Compass offerings, but I totally do. They get slagged a lot for being too stout or having too much rolling resistance, but I don't see it. There's something just "right"

Re: [RBW] On tire supple-itude

Of all the tires I've ridden that come to mind (Schwalbe 26x2.0 Big Apple; Pasella 700c Tour Guard and non-Tour guard in 32, 35, 37 mm; Soma New Express 700x37; Jack Brown Green 700x33.333 and Compass Barlow Pass EL 700x38) they all have their purpose. Some are more "fun" than others. Some

Re: [RBW] On tire supple-itude

You may be enjoying a special case. Goatheads, horrible as they are, make a small clean puncture that is exactly what Orange Seal is best at sealing. The holes that are made in the tire are unlikely to cut across large areas of fabric. If you rode on surfaces that instead looked or acted as

Re: [RBW] On tire supple-itude

Yes, good advice in a clearly delineated, either/or, binary, black and white world. But the OP was asking about the confusing array of tires available, and what exactly constitutes a supple tire. Trying all the available tires out there is a bit daunting. While experimentation is inevitable,

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Actually, Tim, in my admittedly limited experience, even solid tires can be beaten in the "horrible to ride" contest. I once bought an early '80s Cyclopro mtb at Goodwill. It was shod with some early, heavily belted 1.9" slick, fortified with 1 cm thick thornproof tubes, with the protection

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Step 1: remove Marathons. Step 2: Install paper thin and paper light Compass equivalents. Step 3: Insert 2 to 4 oz, depending on tire volume, of Orange Seal into your tubes. Step 3: Rejoice in the benefits and pleasures of both worlds. Patrick Moore, who repeats *ad nauseam* that he rides

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On 03/23/2016 10:56 AM, olofst...@gmail.com wrote: How much to drift on the side of safety is of course a personal thing, but methinks you´ve got to take some risks in life. Having a flat tire isn't what you'd call an existential risk. It's more of a minor irritation. -- You

Re: [RBW] On tire supple-itude

I think we've gotten to the point with this discussion that people should just choose a tire according to their preference. If a smooth, fast ride is a priority for you, ride supple tires. If longevity and flat resistance are a priority for you, don't ride supple tires. On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at

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As I age I think there are two ways to describe comfort... The comfort you feel from a supple tire and the comfort you feel in the form of peace of mind that you are riding on tires that are very durable and will get you through nasty road conditions flat free, . You have to pick your

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0 the worst - 10 the best: 700c Kenda -5 700c Specialized Armadillo-5 700c Gatorskin-7 650b Swifty-4 650b original Rumpkin-6 650b Marathon Green Guard-8.5 650b Hetre-10 650b Cypress-10 650b Loup Loup-10 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

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] On tire supple-itude I've had the same pair(s) of Schwalbe Marathons on my Saluki and Atlantis for over 5 years. Never had a flat. Never had a tire fail. They feel fine over every surface, and I don't live in fear of potholes, nails, pointy rocks, broken glass, or switchblades. To me

Re: [RBW] On tire supple-itude

I've had the same pair(s) of Schwalbe Marathons on my Saluki and Atlantis for over 5 years. Never had a flat. Never had a tire fail. They feel fine over every surface, and I don't live in fear of potholes, nails, pointy rocks, broken glass, or switchblades. To me, *that's* the smoothest ride

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>From my experience: Solid rubber tire = 0 Super cheapo heavy tire (aka stock tires on box-store bikes) = 1 Studded, heavy (Nokian W160) = 2 Studded, huge (Dillinger 5) = 3 Huge (Ground Control 4.6) = 4 Armored, heavy (Schwalbe Marathon) = 5 Armored (Pasela PT/TG) = 6 Stout (Jack Brown, Ruffy

Re: [RBW] On tire supple-itude

A recent BQ claimed to show that TPI doesn't necessarily correlate with suppleness; apparently there are other factors that make Compass tires supple with relatively low TPI counts. In my experience, one element that correlates (I don't say "causes") suppleness is light weight: when a tire casing

[RBW] On tire supple-itude

Hopefully not beating a dying horse here, but I am confused by how this topic is often discussed. With how BQ and Compass/Grand Bois talk about their tires it seems as though it's a binary opposition, right? Supple tires vs. non-supple tires, new tire technology vs. old tires, their tires vs.