Re: [RBW] Opinions on Nitto 177 Noodle vs. Nitto B-135/136 Randonneur?

2012-10-07 Thread Tim McNamara
On Oct 6, 2012, at 8:45 PM, rw1911 wrote: Can anyone comment with their real-world experience using both (all three) bars? My experience is that the shallower drop bars are really uncomfortable to ride in the drops. I have big hands (and long arms at 6'3 or 6'4) and they get sort of

Re: [RBW] Opinions on Nitto 177 Noodle vs. Nitto B-135/136 Randonneur?

2012-10-07 Thread PATRICK MOORE
This must depend on your hand size because I find shallow drop bars very comfortable, as I've said many times about the Maes Parallel design (125 mm drop). Segwaying: I am amazed when I see the specs for some modern bars with drops that are like mail slots. I've not tried such bars, though. On

Re: [RBW] Opinions on Nitto 177 Noodle vs. Nitto B-135/136 Randonneur?

2012-10-07 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2012-10-07 at 12:41 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: This must depend on your hand size because I find shallow drop bars very comfortable, as I've said many times about the Maes Parallel design (125 mm drop). Sure. If you have a medium to large hand, there isn't the room for a fist in

Re: [RBW] Opinions on Nitto 177 Noodle vs. Nitto B-135/136 Randonneur?

2012-10-07 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Medium? My hands are medium. On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: Sure. If you have a medium to large hand, there isn't the room for a fist in the hook of a shallow drop bar. If you have small hands, it's a different story. Also, it depends on how you

Re: [RBW] Opinions on Nitto 177 Noodle vs. Nitto B-135/136 Randonneur?

2012-10-07 Thread Tim McNamara
I'm sure you're right. I am a moose with big mitts. Given the decreasing availability of deep drop bars and the almost universal prevalence of shallow drop bars, I suspect that the majority of folks find them to be fine. On Oct 7, 2012, at 1:41 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: This must depend on

Re: [RBW] Opinions on Nitto 177 Noodle vs. Nitto B-135/136 Randonneur?

2012-10-07 Thread Tim McNamara
On Oct 7, 2012, at 2:05 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: On Sun, 2012-10-07 at 12:41 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: This must depend on your hand size because I find shallow drop bars very comfortable, as I've said many times about the Maes Parallel design (125 mm drop). Sure. If you have a

Re: [RBW] Opinions on Nitto 177 Noodle vs. Nitto B-135/136 Randonneur?

2012-10-07 Thread Jeremy Till
I don't think you can generalize that big hands will like big drop bars, and that anybody who isn't comfortable in deep drops isn't fit right. I'm a big guy (6'3) with big hands, and I like the contemporary short and shallow bars. In my experience, bars are like saddles--an intensely

[RBW] Opinions on Nitto 177 Noodle vs. Nitto B-135/136 Randonneur?

2012-10-06 Thread rw1911
Somewhat related, but without hijacking the below Drop Bar Suggestions thread... I have 46cm Noodles on two bikes. I like them fine but wonder if there is something to the flaring on the Randonneur. (hand position(s) and long ride comfort) If you stand relaxed with your eyes closed and place

Re: [RBW] Opinions on Nitto 177 Noodle vs. Nitto B-135/136 Randonneur?

2012-10-06 Thread PATRICK MOORE
The B177 sounds just like the Nitto 185 with 95 mm of reach and 140 mm of drop. I used to like the 185s and rode them for years (albeit in 42 cm size); their great defect was the short ramp, especially if you -- as you know you should -- keep the ends parallel to Mother Earth. But now find the