[RBW] Re: All Rounder available - help me before it disappears

2014-09-04 Thread L. J. Charlton
Thanks Justin, but I am 55 years old and live in the hills of Pittsburgh. I don't think a single speed will work for me. Thanks for the offer, though. On Wednesday, September 3, 2014 8:57:45 PM UTC-4, justin...@gmail.com wrote: Still got a SimpleOne here... On Wednesday, September 3,

[RBW] Re: All Rounder available - help me before it disappears

2014-09-04 Thread Deacon Patrick
You might well be surprised, LJ! I live int he Colorado mountains and absolutely love my QB. One gear from up, one for down (and the occasional semi-flat bit). I was surprised how rapidly I adapted to handling climbs. As my only bike? No. But what a blast they are! The simplicity is wondrous.

[RBW] Re: All Rounder available - help me before it disappears

2014-09-04 Thread John Stowe
LJ, You might also check Andrew's new yard sale posting: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/aPxa-ASFMgQ/OWb-UruVChgJ He's selling a 61cm longlow-ish frame for $1400, but the saddle height he lists is lower than mine, and I also have an 89 PBH. If I were in the market now it

[RBW] Re: All Rounder available - help me before it disappears

2014-09-04 Thread Johan Larsson
The headtube looks about the same as my 59 cm Bridgestone XO-1. The All-rounder is more or less a refined XO-1. I might very well be wrong, but I think they have the same geometry, give or take a few millimeters. I have a pbh of 91 cm, 188 cm tall, and the XO-1 is a tad too small for my taste

[RBW] Re: All Rounder available - help me before it disappears

2014-09-03 Thread L. J. Charlton
Ken, I definitely will not drop $3k on this frame. Like I wrote above that amount buys me a new bike. My take-away from some of the comments above was that I could manage a 59cm given my 89 PBH. Thanks for the repost of the custom build. It is tempting but also a half cm smaller.

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2014-09-03 Thread 'Tony McG' via RBW Owners Bunch
Larry, I also have an 89cm PBH @ 6' tall. I ride a 61 Atlantis, 59 San Marcos, 60 LHT, and 60 Santana Noventa. They all fit well, but the Atlantis is my favorite. I bought it last Summer off of this list, like new and completely built (w/o wheels or saddle) as I would have for myself for

[RBW] Re: All Rounder available - help me before it disappears

2014-09-03 Thread justinaugust
Still got a SimpleOne here... On Wednesday, September 3, 2014 6:32:18 AM UTC-7, L. J. Charlton wrote: Ken, I definitely will not drop $3k on this frame. Like I wrote above that amount buys me a new bike. My take-away from some of the comments above was that I could manage a 59cm given my

[RBW] Re: All Rounder available - help me before it disappears

2014-09-02 Thread Jim M.
I've talked to them about a few bikes. I thought they were a bit high, but not egregiously so. $1200 would be a screaming deal, IMHO. Given that it's a rare bike and less expensive than a new Riv, paying your birth year $19xx would not be a bad deal. jim m wc ca On Monday, September 1, 2014

[RBW] Re: All Rounder available - help me before it disappears

2014-09-02 Thread L. J. Charlton
Yes, a typo. I have an 89 PBH. I'll see if I can edit the original post to avoid confusing others. Thank you. On Monday, September 1, 2014 12:40:41 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote: What is your actual PBH. Your PBH is not 59. That has to be a typo. What is it really? -- You received

[RBW] Re: All Rounder available - help me before it disappears

2014-09-02 Thread L. J. Charlton
I know I said this dealer was known for asking above-market prices (and as was said here, that's his prerogative) but this is ridiculous. I will copy his response verbatim: Thanks for the inquiry and interest. Great choice. Because we are willing and able to furnish any bike with a choice

[RBW] Re: All Rounder available - help me before it disappears

2014-09-02 Thread Michael Hammer
I'm the original owner of a Waterford All-Rounder, so a couple of comments: - According to my paperwork from the time, there were 3 sizes in the range of interest, 55.5, 58 and 61. The bike for sale looks more like a 61 than a 58, primarily based on the headtube. - My bike is a

[RBW] Re: All Rounder available - help me before it disappears

2014-09-02 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Ha! Well, as we used to say in retail, he's pretty proud of that... ;^) You are buying a frame and fork. Yeah, there are some wheels and other bits attached, but those are likely to be swapped out. Honestly, for that specific offering, I'd have trouble paying more than $8-900. For what he's

Re: [RBW] Re: All Rounder available - help me before it disappears

2014-09-02 Thread cyclotourist
Mr. Fiend is in charge of the voices, but may I politely add in my best Edna Krabappel voice: Ha! And Chief Wiggum: Move along, nothing to see here. It's been an Every Simpsons Ever sort of a week. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at

[RBW] Re: All Rounder available - help me before it disappears

2014-09-02 Thread Ken Yokanovich
As others have said, the price seems high and given your PBH measurement it sounds like it might be too small. If you are prepared to spend that kind of coin, I would recommend that you work with the good folks at Rivendell to help set you up with the best combination of bike for the budget

[RBW] Re: All Rounder available - help me before it disappears

2014-09-01 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Hey there Larry - Re: your second point - I'm guessing you mean you have a 89 cm PBH? That would put you in the 59 cm frame range.That's a pretty safe guess for the frame size on that model. From those photos, it honestly looks a little bigger than a 59 - the perspective of the

[RBW] Re: All Rounder available - help me before it disappears

2014-09-01 Thread lungimsam
Once I called them about an Atlantis. He said I could have it for a birthday price - which is you pay what the year of your birth is. He said I could also bring as old a person as I wanted with me and he'd give it to me for that price. So if he is charging more than the year of your

[RBW] Re: All Rounder available - help me before it disappears

2014-09-01 Thread lungimsam
Once I emailed them about an Atlantis they had. I think they still have it. I did not buy it. The shop owner said I could have it for a birthday price, same price as your birth year. So if you were born in 1954, then you will pay $1954. He said I could bring the oldest person with me

[RBW] Re: All Rounder available - help me before it disappears

2014-09-01 Thread lungimsam
Hey y'all, Maybe you can clue me in. But how does a bike maintain such a high value when it is used and 19 years old? I'm not saying its not worth it, because I don't really know the value of these things. I know its a Waterford Rivendell, so its top quality. But it is used and 19 years old.

[RBW] Re: All Rounder available - help me before it disappears

2014-09-01 Thread Ryan
Frame was probably $1300 new. Actually, cyclotourist's estimate might not be totally out-of-line. That was a top-quality frame, and I don't think there are thousands of A/R's around. They were a small-batch production frame Now when you start getting into the customs built by JS or CG with the

Re: [RBW] Re: All Rounder available - help me before it disappears

2014-09-01 Thread Eric Platt
Seems to me discussion on this bike has come up a couple of times on the list. While the bike looks big, am pretty sure it's the 26 wheels contributing. My Surly LHT has a 58cm frame and 26 wheels and looks similar. Also will agree with the general price suggestion by Cyclotourist. Eric Platt