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Michael, I'm just now reading through the threads of this post. Given your
comparison of crank lengths, pedals, and shoes in the referenced post, have
you tried moving the clipless pedals to the Bleriot and using those shoes
to ride in? Reason I ask that is because I've been shifting around fr
I can't spam to this but I have two experiences that are similar.
My first non-Mountain Bike(Giant OCR2) carried me around San Francisco until I
was struck by a car. I had the chain rings dig into my Achilles and was carried
away by an ambance - the bike was fine. As I was recovering my family
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> I think at this point I have done all the fit tweaking I can on the drops
> Bleriot. For whatever reason, my body doesn't like riding it in drops
> position anymore.
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I might try Alba's on it and see if I can ride it that way pain free. That
way I will be bolt upright and totally out of
I don't want this problem. I didn't look for it.
It just happened.
I feel for you. I've had extensive back surgery involving titanium rods, cages,
and screws. It kept me from riding for a full year, but all is well now.
Sometime recovery just takes time.You can't push it much. As others have sai
If you almost never use the drops on a drop bar bike then right off the bat
you should raise the bars an inch or more, until the drops actually are in
a usable position. I'm gonna make that recommendation even for someone with
no back pain. Seems silly to waste a hand position.
On Wednesday, Au
Ok do this.. or at least this is what I would do...
1. Move saddle forward on seat post or back...just make a change and
test - if still pain put it back
2. Raise / lower seat ...
3. Raise / lower bars
If none if the individual test help then make combo's .. 1 and 2 the 2 and
3 etc. Alw
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> @Peter:
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> I don't think it is a pea thing.
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This is real pain that has kept me off that bike most of last winter and
still happens whenever I hop on the thing.
The pain is what has driven me to all the measurements and thinking trying
to sort it all out.
I am not saying it couldn't b
No, I mean I think we are full on princess and the pea mode on this one. I
ride in all kinds of shoes over a range of bikes, most people do and they
don't have sore backs all the time. Follow Patricks advice and let the bike
sit for a while. I think you have lost the forest in the tree. I once had
OK. Here is a difference I found between the bikes:
> Sam and Bleriot have same saddle heights (saddle top-bb center), *but*:
> Sam cranks - *170mm*, MKS touring pedals with walking shoe (no back pain)
> Bleriot cranks - *172.5mm*, MKS touring pedals with same walking shoe
> (ouch)
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Giant cra
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> @DeaconPatrick:
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> Since I am ok on the other bikes I am not sure I want to go to the floor
> full time just yet. Though I do like sitting on the floor much better than
> in chairs.
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> I heard that in days of old, before chairs, people sat on floors. Some
> cultures still do. It is
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> @PatrickMoore,
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Worst case scenario, I think I will throw Albas on it and see if the bike
is rideable that way since I will then be so far out of the drop position
it may nullify whatever is going on with me or the bike.
Absolute worst scenario, I think I will put it aside for 6 months
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> Kelly,
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Thanks for the suggestions. I have done them all. But the seat height
suggestion got me thinking about Saddle *to pedal* measurement.
Like, though the Giant bike and Bleriot have the same seat heights and
crank arm lengths, the Sam (which doesn't hurt my back), has a 160 crank
ar
Michael,
It's perhaps an extreme approach, but I (and our whole family) get a lot of
benefit from living on the floor (sleeping, sitting, eating, working). We
have no chairs in the house (except for the sewing mating) and I kneel on
the floor (on a kneeler) at my desk (made of two night stands
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> IanA:
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My doctor did suggest that it could be psychological. Like my mind/body is
tensing up when on that bike because I got hit on it.
I have no way of knowing. No PTSD symptoms of any kind as far as I can
tell. This is why it is so frustrating. Because I can't tell if it is my
body, m
Well, I am stumped. FWIW, if I were in your shoes, I'd not get rid of
something as nice as a Bleriot; I'd set it aside for six months or a
year and ride the other bikes. Then I'd come back to it and try it
again.
Good luck, and do tell us what happens in the end.
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 8:03 PM, M
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> @Patrick:
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Saddle specs:
Same saddle height and tilt. Fore/aft = KOPS on both bikes. Both bikes
have MKS Touring pedals on them. Both have B17's on them. Same crank
lengths. Q is probably different, but not mechanically inclined enough to
measure that. Never removes crank arms before.
Does riding the Bleriot bring anxiety about the accident? You could be
holding tension in the body in anticipation of an event. The other bikes
don't have that history, so maybe you are more released when riding them?
Not saying this is the case, but if all other mechanical factors check out,
Well, then it's into voodoo territory for me. I hope you find what it is
and get it taken care of. If I had two bikes with identical fit and bike A
always hurt me and bike B never hurt me, I'm sure I would be confused and
frustrated, because there is no reason I know of that would explain it
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> @William:
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Thanks for the info. Recently, I have the bike set up like my pain free
bike. But back hurting today.
@Michael:
I am seeing a PT now. I use the Riv method of seat height adjustment.
PBH-11=SH. Works great on my other bikes.
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> Actually, I would never throw it away. Too pretty for that.
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I would keep it as a decoration in the house somehow if it turns out to be
unrideable.
I love this bike. It rides unbelieveably nicely. Fast. Pretty. Sigh...
Well, I do have the Sam. It is working out great. I am just glad I can
Michael, so sorry to read about the pain and frustration you are in. I
wish I could offer you a silver bullet, but i can't.
Some suggestions. MDs aren't necessarily the best trained to help you.
I'm sure a good PT or chiropractor know more about this than most GPs.
This might be as simple a
I don't know if this will be helpful or not, and I apologize in advance if
it is not helpful. It is my honest and sincere opinion and I give it with
the deep desire for you to be comfortable on your bike.
I'm having a hard time with the premise that the crash changed the bike,
and that chang
Depending on the size of the bike, if you're going to throw it away you
can throw it my way ;)). Seriously tho I've had similar experience, I spent
the better part of last year in Postural restoration PT as the result of
carrying around my camera bag. What I learned was how simple things are
r
This seems like my universal answer of late, but have you talked with Grant
about it? His plethora of experience and knowledge of the intersection
between people and his bikes is vast and bound to help shed some light on
the possibilities.
With abandon,
Patrick
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