[RBW] Re: Build kits!

2012-02-06 Thread kwhiner
Ditto to both William's and Bernard's comments! How hard would it be at some point in the future to swap-out the cassettes to fit the needs of a particular ride/event. I personally wouldn't have a need for an 11T cog, but I'm using 110/74 style cranksets and generally 8 speed clusters. On Jan

[RBW] Re: Build kits!

2012-02-06 Thread dougP
Swapping cassettes is quite easy. There's a lock ring that holds the cassette on the hub and you just need a tool that Riv sells. Dave says (above)all the kits are 9 speed but 8/9/10 all fit the same hub so if you have 8s cassettes you like they'd pop right on. Not sure about chain

[RBW] Re: Build kits!

2012-02-04 Thread Jay
If this had been available in the summer I would have probably done it. Since it wasn't, I spent a lot of time working with an excellent LBS to spec my Sam - mostly because Riv was a lot more $ for the same stuff. This way would have come out about the same price, less effort and probably a few

[RBW] Re: Build kits!

2012-02-04 Thread Jay
Any idea why the 8 speed Noodle kit with should be $120 more than the 9 speed Albas? As far as I can see everything else is the same. Jay On Feb 3, 4:14 am, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, January 27, 2012 11:31:24 AM UTC-5, Darin G. wrote: Are these only available with

[RBW] Re: Build kits!

2012-02-04 Thread Jay
It still doesn't make sense to me. Albas $60 + grips $24 + tiagra levers $55 = $139 Noodles $81 + shimano levers $33 = $114 Everything else looks the same. I'm just asking out of curiousity and because I happened to notice. I'm quite happy with the pick it yourself build home brew build kit on

[RBW] Re: Build kits!

2012-02-04 Thread Leslie
We're comparing our prices, not their costs; different items might have lesser margins than others... Might be, the Noodle sets are inline w/ where they should be, and they can discount the Albatross sets more... I don't know, just guessing. I'm not worrying about it, I tend to pick other

[RBW] Re: Build kits!

2012-02-03 Thread Dave Rivbike
the 8sp was a typo. all kits are 9. noodles and tiagra brake levers cost more than the alba/mtb levers On Feb 2, 8:25 pm, Jay in Tel Aviv jayin...@gmail.com wrote: Any idea why the 8 speed Noodle kit is $120 more than the 9 speed Albas? As far as I can tell everything else is the same. Jay

[RBW] Re: Build kits!

2012-02-02 Thread Leslie
On Friday, January 27, 2012 11:31:24 AM UTC-5, Darin G. wrote: Are these only available with albatross bars or am I missing something? They are now showing Noodles, Albatross, and Moustache bars; pick the bar, pick the wheelsize, and Bob's your uncle... :) -- You received this message

[RBW] Re: Build kits!

2012-02-02 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
Any idea why the 8 speed Noodle kit is $120 more than the 9 speed Albas? As far as I can tell everything else is the same. Jay On Feb 3, 4:14 am, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, January 27, 2012 11:31:24 AM UTC-5, Darin G. wrote: Are these only available with albatross bars

[RBW] Re: Build kits!

2012-02-02 Thread Leslie
The regular Noodles are more than the regular Albas; then the 46 and 48 are heat-treated Noodles and have an additional upcharge more. The brakes change out, the levers change out, the tires change out; those are the things that caught my eye toggling between them. I've not gone through

[RBW] Re: Build kits!

2012-01-27 Thread Darin G.
Are these only available with albatross bars or am I missing something? On Jan 26, 11:14 pm, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: +1 That 36 is a great gear. Makes me more inclined to ride instead of drive. On Jan 26, 2012, at 9:20 PM, dougP wrote: John: Wonderful

[RBW] Re: Build kits!

2012-01-27 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I often read that the 11t is useless, but of course, that depends on your chainrings. With a modern mountain triple or mountain double, the biggest ring is 39, 42, or 44t. I'm setting up my Goodrich with a 42/28 crank and a 11-36 10sp cassette. -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: Build kits!

2012-01-27 Thread William
I agree with Jim. Anything higher than a 4-to-1 is useless to me, to be sure, and even a 4-to-1 is only useful when I am in a major hurry on descents and insist on pedaling beyond 35mph. On one bike which has a 50/34 up front, the 12 cog on a 12-27 cassette is useless, but on another bike

[RBW] Re: Build kits!

2012-01-27 Thread Joe Bernard
Agreed. The build kit is for the guy/gal who wants a nice complete bike from Rivendell. Once you're specing specifics like the cassette, you're out of the just put one together for me game. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To

[RBW] Re: Build kits!

2012-01-27 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
As somebody who's worked with customers on builds, MOST people don't have super specific preferences - they just want a configuration that will work and have an overall aesthetic, possibly with a few minor personal touches. The advantage of having a kit is that it shortens the phone

Re: [RBW] Re: Build kits!

2012-01-27 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Just so's y'all know, Miche makes outer Shimano compatible cogs in teeth up to 16. Switch out that pissant 11 for a manly 16 t outer. I use 15 and 16 t outers on the Fargo wheelsets -- 15 for the skinny 40 mm tires and 16 for the fatties. Of course, even these serve mostly as spacers for even

Re: [RBW] Re: Build kits!

2012-01-27 Thread PATRICK MOORE
One more comment, tangential: I just resurrected the Big Apple wheelset today and did a windy out and back. I am very pleased with the superbe rolling qualities of the two Schwalbe models I've used, 559X1.35 Kojaks and the 60 mm Big Apples. After riding the Fargo with Ritchy semi-cross tires for

[RBW] Re: Build kits!

2012-01-27 Thread Peter Pesce
The build kits seem to be a logical extension of the typical build sheets listed with some models. It's easy for customers to know the exact cost, and IF it saves RBW some time there's a discount in it too. I think after one or two substitutions it might become a typical custom build anyway,

[RBW] Re: Build kits!

2012-01-27 Thread dougP
Useless was the wrong term; should have said ...more use out of a 36 large than an 11 small Since the kit includes Riv's standard Sugino crank with 46t big ring, even the 12 is sorta downhill-with-a- tailwind or getting chased by a big dog type of gearing. I also recall something on the Riv

[RBW] Re: Build kits!

2012-01-27 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Re: surly completes vs frames When Surly gets a batch of bikes and frames in, typically they have MANY more bikes than frames on-hand. I don't have exact numbers, but I think it's not far off to say they stock 5x as many completes as frames. -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: Build kits!

2012-01-26 Thread John Bennett
Thanks for noticing, Leslie. These are the components that work so well together on our frames (and we recommend them time and time again), so we thought we would make it easier for everyone by offering them as kits. We knocked a little of the collective price to make it more attractive, too.

[RBW] Re: Build kits!

2012-01-26 Thread William
It's a great strategy to streamline the bike selling process. It saves the Riv-person some time, and it saves the customer a ton of anxiety if they don't come into the transaction with a bunch of preconceptions. Clearly this won't be the choice of somebody who has really specific ideas about

[RBW] Re: Build kits!

2012-01-26 Thread Manuel Acosta
I like this. Being a stubborn, self-doer of sorts, I dislike not working on my own bike. I believe that we are all makers of our own destiny and we should be have some physical aspect of building or maintaining our own bikes. That way if something breaks or falls off you know it's your fault. On

[RBW] Re: Build kits!

2012-01-26 Thread dougP
John: Wonderful concept but one bit of whining about the 9 speed cassette: 11-32 instead of the 12-36? I hate to come on like I'm grading papers but IMHO 11t cogs are useless but a 36t has real value. Sometimes its the little stuff that's the difference between good great. dougP On Jan 26,

Re: [RBW] Re: Build kits!

2012-01-26 Thread James Warren
+1 That 36 is a great gear. Makes me more inclined to ride instead of drive. On Jan 26, 2012, at 9:20 PM, dougP wrote: John: Wonderful concept but one bit of whining about the 9 speed cassette: 11-32 instead of the 12-36? I hate to come on like I'm grading papers but IMHO 11t cogs

[RBW] Re: Build kits for Roadeo

2009-09-27 Thread usuk2007
that is still undecided. From the pics on their site, the prototype had SRAM Force on it. I believe the write-up on the Riv site indicates that the final build details are going to be left up to Mark. Joe Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 21:44:15 -0700 Subject: [RBW] Re: Build kits for Roadeo From

[RBW] Re: Build kits for Roadeo

2009-09-26 Thread Joe Bartoe
I believe that is still undecided. From the pics on their site, the prototype had SRAM Force on it. I believe the write-up on the Riv site indicates that the final build details are going to be left up to Mark. Joe Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 21:44:15 -0700 Subject: [RBW] Re: Build kits

[RBW] Re: Build kits for Roadeo

2009-09-25 Thread Seth Vidal
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 2:21 PM, usuk2007 clive.stand...@umassmed.edu wrote: Does anyone have an idea of the parts used to build the comfy vs light versions of the Roadeo. Just wondering what you get for your money Email riv and ask - they are ridiculously quick to respond and incredibly

[RBW] Re: Build kits for Roadeo

2009-09-25 Thread usuk2007
I don't want to take up any of Riv's time as I'm not going to buy a Roadie, I was just interested in the parts selection. From the latest pictures the economy version has a Sugino XD2 and I imagine the rest of the parts are from the Riv catalogue too. I was just interested in the racer spec parts

[RBW] Re: Build kits for Roadeo

2009-09-25 Thread 40_Acres
The groupo on Mark's prototype looks like 2010 SRAM Force. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe