[RBW] Re: Cheap Clem substitutes?.

2016-06-27 Thread cbone97
Look at the Specialized Roll models. Aluminum (gasp!), but in other ways Clemish. They'll take REALLY fat 650b's. On Monday, April 25, 2016 at 5:28:06 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: > > After typing that heading, I paused to ask myself if the question is > kosher for this list. But I think it

[RBW] Re: Cheap Clem substitutes?.

2016-04-30 Thread Dave Johnston
I would think a used Long Haul Trucker would be ideal. I would avoid a cruiser type frame. I have one and its just a dog to ride. I love biking and it makes me hate biking more than 5mi on a boardwalk. These Vitus city bikes look pretty cool, some like the Dee 29 come stock with 29x2.1 tires. M

[RBW] Re: Cheap Clem substitutes?.

2016-04-29 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Hey, I never know which of your bike for Catie threads I should respond to--,maybe this in fact is more appropriate to BOB. But anyway I bought a CB-1 for my now x a few years back. Sadly she has not maintained it, as you can see in these recent photos. Aside from the slightly wanky setup for

Re: [RBW] Re: Cheap Clem substitutes?.

2016-04-29 Thread Brian Campbell
Something like this with a different stem & bars. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Trek-930-/141974914561?hash=item210e5d4601:g:vrsAAOSw8RJXDO-K The bb height if its an issue, can just be accounted for with a slightly lower saddle height. Put a bash guard on in place of the outer ring or leave the chain

Re: [RBW] Re: Cheap Clem substitutes?.

2016-04-27 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks, Bill, but we want something that will take tires at least 50 mm wide. I see that the Allant comes with 32 mm tires, which makes me doubt it will take 50s even without fenders. On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 7:52 AM, William Graves wrote: > This may be heresy, but it might be worth looking at th

[RBW] Re: Cheap Clem substitutes?.

2016-04-27 Thread William Graves
This may be heresy, but it might be worth looking at the Trek Allant WSD. It get s good reviews from bicyclesfortherestfous and Kent Peterson. It comes with 700x32 tires, fenders, a rack and decent components (Acera rear der and Tektro brakes), has a fairly upright riding position, and lists a

Re: [RBW] Re: Cheap Clem substitutes?.

2016-04-26 Thread masmojo
I bought my daughter a Clementine and she's probably 5 or 6 years away from being able to ride it! That said my son can ride it now; he has a stingray that he likes and when he outgrows that he'll be big enough to ride any of my bikes so I don't sweat bikes for him. The Clementine should be the

Re: [RBW] Re: Cheap Clem substitutes?.

2016-04-26 Thread Deacon Patrick
The Clementines we bought our two oldest lassies are the only vehicles we will buy they and they know it. That's with one of them at 15.5 years old. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, April 26, 2016 at 12:05:45 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Mark: That does make sense. I just bought her a new

Re: [RBW] Re: Cheap Clem substitutes?.

2016-04-26 Thread Patrick Moore
Mark: That does make sense. I just bought her a new MacBook Air that, I was very clear to tell her, has to last her until college, and the Clem would be a bike that will ditto. We'll see if riding becomes a habit or if it's just a fancy. And perhaps by that time I'll have a bit more $$. On Tue, A

[RBW] Re: Cheap Clem substitutes?.

2016-04-26 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
I think if she cottons to riding again, I would second this suggestion. The Clementine is an awesome bicycle and worth a bit of initial financial pain. Unless she were to get into seriously competitive riding, this bike would truly last a lifetime and then some. It is also now available as a fra

[RBW] Re: Cheap Clem substitutes?.

2016-04-26 Thread Patrick Moore
IOW, compared even to the Fargo, the Race Lite, otherwise impeccably neutral, feels high and "tippy" and insecure in slow, tight turns. That, to me, would be a great turn off if I were a new rider getting an early taste of what riding can be like. Depending on how well the Matthews turns out, I ma

[RBW] Re: Cheap Clem substitutes?.

2016-04-26 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks for the replies. As you can tell, I am "planning" as I talk -- IOW, "What, me planning?" I think that, being reasonable instead of impulsive, the smart thing to do is to take the nice wide, tubeless wheelset from the Race Lite and install it on Catie's cheap Diamond Back, and learn how she

[RBW] Re: Cheap Clem substitutes?.

2016-04-26 Thread Alex Wirth
We just started carrying the Brooklyn Bicycle Co. brand in our shop as an inexpensive introduction to useful all-around bicycles. The Roebling and Lorimer do not disappoint with clearance for 40mm tires with fenders and a host of braze-ons. Sure I might change a couple things here and there..

[RBW] Re: Cheap Clem substitutes?.

2016-04-26 Thread Joe Bernard
A Brooklyn is another option. I don't know if Grant is still involved with the company but he was at one point, and his design ideas like low bottom brackets should be present here. http://www.brooklynbicycleco.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gro

[RBW] Re: Cheap Clem substitutes?.

2016-04-26 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
The problem, as laid out I believe in the wonderful Clem brochure, or maybe in one of the blug posts, is that making a vintage bike work well is often expensive, even as the bikes themselves become more rare and often less pristine. And in the end you still do not have the bb height you desire

[RBW] Re: Cheap Clem substitutes?.

2016-04-25 Thread Belopsky
Do you have a budget in mind? Do you already have parts? A Piolet build will not be cheaper than a Clem, especially with the pre-order right now, unless you have parts to build up the Piolet. On Monday, April 25, 2016 at 6:28:06 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: > > After typing that heading, I pau

[RBW] Re: Cheap Clem substitutes?.

2016-04-25 Thread Joe Bernard
It's real easy to turn a kid's interest in going for a ride into a new bike project for us to fiddle with. Which is great if the kid is on board, but more often than not they're fine with the one they already have. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R

[RBW] Re: Cheap Clem substitutes?.

2016-04-25 Thread Utah
My daughter rides a Surly Cross Check. High bottom bracket but takes wide tires. The low handle bars don't bother her young bones one bit. On Monday, April 25, 2016 at 4:28:06 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: > > After typing that heading, I paused to ask myself if the question is > kosher for

[RBW] Re: Cheap Clem substitutes?.

2016-04-25 Thread Edwin W
I agree with what everyone else is leaning toward: ride what you got. Bring her into the process. Does she want to change one component, such as cockpit (I know, several components) pedals, saddle or tires? Indulge her. I am always trying out new things and forcing my kids to get to the next le

[RBW] Re: Cheap Clem substitutes?.

2016-04-25 Thread Deacon Patrick
+1 for ride whatcha got. That will teach her a lot (and you as well), and may motivate her to know what she wants and work out how she's going to work toward it. I also sent you a PM. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, April 25, 2016 at 4:28:06 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: > > After typing that

[RBW] Re: Cheap Clem substitutes?.

2016-04-25 Thread Bill Lindsay
My advice is that if your daughter wants to ride with you, and your daughter has a bike, why not just ride with your daughter? Her current bike sounds fine. If there is something that makes her current bike insufficient to ride with her dad, take care of that, but until then, this might be a

[RBW] Re: Cheap Clem substitutes?.

2016-04-25 Thread Frank Brose
Might be packing a little to much in the backpack don't you think Patrick? I have an older early 90'S Cannondale Red Shred set up Nitto dirt Drop stem and moustache bars, blackburn rear rack and upgraded wheels,rd and headset I'd part with if you can't find what you're looking for. But then agai

[RBW] Re: Cheap Clem substitutes?.

2016-04-25 Thread Patrick Moore
Forgot to add: others have suggested: Isla bike; VO Piolet. Lowish bb very useful. Again, fat and tall tires. On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > After typing that heading, I paused to ask myself if the question is > kosher for this list. But I think it is; it has to do with