[RBW] Re: Contemplating which route to take with a Sam, budget build or riv build kit

2015-06-09 Thread Philip Kim
From what Rich explained to me that the XT hubs are standard, though Shimano hubs are made in Asia anyways, and the Velocity sport hubs are loose ball and just as easy to service, and made in Taiwan and has a silver finish. The Tektro sidepulls aren't too bad once you replace them with Kool

[RBW] Re: Contemplating which route to take with a Sam, budget build or riv build kit

2015-06-09 Thread Ginz
Ah, ok then. The only parts on the list I would consider upgrading are brakes (if using cantis, not crazy about the tektros but they are ok) and the wheelset. If Phil Wood or XT or something a little nicer isn't in the budget, then that's fine too. Derailleurs on a friction-shifted bike

[RBW] Re: Contemplating which route to take with a Sam, budget build or riv build kit

2015-06-09 Thread Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado
Being Frugal is great! There are a few things I didn't really think through or know about when I built my Sam 9 months ago. I wish I would of built the front wheel with a dyno hub,so I could add a head and tail light later. I don't commute or ride much at night but now days I like to have

[RBW] Re: Contemplating which route to take with a Sam, budget build or riv build kit

2015-06-09 Thread Philip Williamson
If you still have one of those ~$1000 bikes, you could move some or all of the parts over to the new frame. Then you can spend time finding parts to put the old frame back on the road, or simply sell the leftovers. If you don't have a spare bike, there's always Craigslist. Any size bike will

[RBW] Re: Contemplating which route to take with a Sam, budget build or riv build kit

2015-06-09 Thread 'pb' via RBW Owners Bunch
I recently built a bike with 8-speed XT bits that were gathered in a leisurely fashion, mostly from the bay, along with this and that from the list and from my boxes. Each individual transaction seemed cheap, and I was careful never to total the costs, therefore the build was cheap. QED.

[RBW] Re: Contemplating which route to take with a Sam, budget build or riv build kit

2015-06-09 Thread hsmitham
While at Riv were the clems available to ride? http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/f-clemsmith.htm For the price of the HIllborne frame you get a complete bike ready to roll! I know it's not the Hillborne, but considering the evolution of riv bikes I'd say all the good that's in the Hillborne

Re: [RBW] Re: Contemplating which route to take with a Sam, budget build or riv build kit

2015-06-09 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 06/09/2015 01:04 PM, Philip Williamson wrote: If you still have one of those ~$1000 bikes, you could move some or all of the parts over to the new frame. Then you can spend time finding parts to put the old frame back on the road, or simply sell the leftovers. You could even buy one of

[RBW] Re: Contemplating which route to take with a Sam, budget build or riv build kit

2015-06-08 Thread drew
if budget is your main concern, i would second going the used/ebay/internet search route. obviously, that takes much longer. you can, however save a ton of money, get your bike fun and rideable, and then swap out for more expensive parts later or as you need them. i put a sam together for a

Re: [RBW] Re: Contemplating which route to take with a Sam, budget build or riv build kit

2015-06-08 Thread Patrick Moore
IIRC, and thanks to listmembers' generosity, I paid less than $400 for a set of very nice parts indeed, including wheels and tires, for my Ram, though I did have a few things stashed away, like f and r derailleurs. The build was considerably more high-end than Riv's basic build. On 6/8/15, drew

[RBW] Re: Contemplating which route to take with a Sam, budget build or riv build kit

2015-06-08 Thread Ginz
Is the budget kit listed on the site? I only see one type of build kit under Frames -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Contemplating which route to take with a Sam, budget build or riv build kit

2015-06-08 Thread Daniel D.
Not on the site. I meant a build with items of your choosing. On Monday, June 8, 2015 at 11:07:57 AM UTC-7, Ginz wrote: Is the budget kit listed on the site? I only see one type of build kit under Frames Maybe after I start making a list of actual prices the riv build kits will look

[RBW] Re: Contemplating which route to take with a Sam, budget build or riv build kit

2015-06-08 Thread Edwin W
For my Sam I got a few years ago, I needed to stick to a tight budget. I got the frame fork and headset used from this list, and then I worked hard to get stuff used or cheap. Those things I bought new, I got from Riv, like a Sugino crank, brake levers, one bar end shifter (I run 1x8 to save

[RBW] Re: Contemplating which route to take with a Sam, budget build or riv build kit

2015-06-08 Thread Will
Go with the Riv kit. It's been extensively cherry-picked by folks that build and ride the bikes every day. On Sunday, June 7, 2015 at 11:57:26 PM UTC-5, Daniel D. wrote: So I test rode a sam the other day and really enjoyed the ride. Getting my ducks in a row to swing a frame. I've

[RBW] Re: Contemplating which route to take with a Sam, budget build or riv build kit

2015-06-08 Thread Philip Kim
I recently bought the Sam frame. I would've gone with the Riv Build kit, had not already had those parts laying around (Nitto seatpost, brooks, sugino triple,long reach Tektro, etc). Along with the frame, I got Rich wheels (dyno hub), Eyc light, Mark's rack, and the 650b paselas. On Monday,