Re: [RBW] Re: Downtube shifting 9 cogs: Retrofrictions versus Silvers versus Technique

2014-07-08 Thread Ron Mc
Patrick, I don't understand how you could sell it. On Monday, July 7, 2014 11:43:24 AM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote: I should have bought that bike. --Eric N. www.CampyOnly.com CampyOnlyGuy.BlogSpot.com @CampyOnlyGuy *From:* Philip Williamson javascript: *Sent:* ‎Sunday‎, ‎July‎ ‎6‎,

Re: [RBW] Re: Downtube shifting 9 cogs: Retrofrictions versus Silvers versus Technique

2014-07-08 Thread Patrick Moore
As I said, it didn't work for me. I'm not a collector and keep only bikes that I really like. On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 7:22 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, I don't understand how you could sell it. On Monday, July 7, 2014 11:43:24 AM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote: I should have

Re: [RBW] Re: Downtube shifting 9 cogs: Retrofrictions versus Silvers versus Technique

2014-07-08 Thread Patrick Moore
To elaborate: First, it was a relatively inexpensive bike as it was somehow not a collectible -- not quite sure why it was an ugly cousin, but I paid $1,500 for a bike in excellent condition except for somewhat faded paint. (I later had it beautifully powdercoated.) Second, while it probably

[RBW] Re: Downtube shifting 9 cogs: Retrofrictions versus Silvers versus Technique

2014-07-07 Thread Michael Hechmer
My singles now all have silver DT shifters but the tandem has Shimano BE, used in friction mode. The biggest problem I have, in going back and forth, is that they move in opposite directions. It took me quite awhile in going from older Campy shifters to new Silvers. Or maybe it was really

Re: [RBW] Re: Downtube shifting 9 cogs: Retrofrictions versus Silvers versus Technique

2014-07-07 Thread Patrick Moore
Was it really 2011? Time flies. The buyer, a woman in Atlanta, was thrilled to get it. On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick's Herse looked like this: http://www.biketinker.com/2011/fine-bikes/1958-rene-herse-for-sale/ Philip

Re: [RBW] Re: Downtube shifting 9 cogs: Retrofrictions versus Silvers versus Technique

2014-07-07 Thread Patrick Moore
You describe what I feel: pull or push the lever with authority, then add a mm of tension. You are right, too, about the skill required being a plus and not a minus. But I was surprised, when I figured out what was wrong, to realize that I'd really lost the art with down tubers. (For the first

Re: [RBW] Re: Downtube shifting 9 cogs: Retrofrictions versus Silvers versus Technique

2014-07-07 Thread Philip Williamson
No kidding! Tempus fugit. This year itself is blowing away. Philip www.biketinker.com On Monday, July 7, 2014 5:46:24 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Was it really 2011? Time flies. The buyer, a woman in Atlanta, was thrilled to get it. On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Philip Williamson

Re: [RBW] Re: Downtube shifting 9 cogs: Retrofrictions versus Silvers versus Technique

2014-07-07 Thread campyonlyguy
I should have bought that bike. --Eric N. www.CampyOnly.com CampyOnlyGuy.BlogSpot.com @CampyOnlyGuy From: Philip Williamson Sent: ‎Sunday‎, ‎July‎ ‎6‎, ‎2014 ‎8‎:‎55‎ ‎PM To: 'doc' via RBW Owners Bunch Patrick's Herse looked like this:

[RBW] Re: Downtube shifting 9 cogs: Retrofrictions versus Silvers versus Technique

2014-07-06 Thread Patrick Moore
FWIW, this -- ie, that I've not used dt shifters except sporadically for many years and have thus lost the habit -- explains why I found shifting 5 cogs on the Herse with Retro dt shifters awkward; ditto for the 6 (also Retro -- no fd or left side shifter) on the Ken Rogers. Whereas I've been

[RBW] Re: Downtube shifting 9 cogs: Retrofrictions versus Silvers versus Technique

2014-07-06 Thread lungimsam
I use a very slow, smooth technique and stop when I hear it click into gear. Trim when necessary. Do you have a Herse? Pics please? Love to see it! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and

[RBW] Re: Downtube shifting 9 cogs: Retrofrictions versus Silvers versus Technique

2014-07-06 Thread Andrew Marchant-Shapiro
I shift 9/friction with a Shimano 600 lever--the last of the true friction-only DT levers. It's so nice that I have considered friction 10...but not just yet. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group

Re: [RBW] Re: Downtube shifting 9 cogs: Retrofrictions versus Silvers versus Technique

2014-07-06 Thread Patrick Moore
Sam (?): sorry, I sold it a couple of years ago. I owned it only for about a year, IIRC, after buying it from fellow lister Ryan Watson. It was a 1958 700C rando bike that, I hear, Jan Heine brought in from France to build up as a city bike, but both he and the next buyer, Ryan, found the tubing

[RBW] Re: Downtube shifting 9 cogs: Retrofrictions versus Silvers versus Technique

2014-07-06 Thread Deacon Patrick
Have you swapped the pulleys on the derailure? That trick did wonders for both my 8 and 9 speed shifting. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

Re: [RBW] Re: Downtube shifting 9 cogs: Retrofrictions versus Silvers versus Technique

2014-07-06 Thread Patrick Moore
No, I keep meaning to try it but keep forgetting. I've never done so in the past, when I could shift friction very well. Will try to remember (along with changing the HVAC filter and the gerbil's bedding and paying the HOA ...) Perhaps the Microshift RD on the Fargo does not have a laterally

[RBW] Re: Downtube shifting 9 cogs: Retrofrictions versus Silvers versus Technique

2014-07-06 Thread Philip Williamson
Patrick's Herse looked like this: http://www.biketinker.com/2011/fine-bikes/1958-rene-herse-for-sale/ Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from