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Marino layers work for me down to 27°. That's the coldest I've ever ridden. After about 20 miles my thighs, thigh tendon and kneecaps start complaining from the wintry blasts. Thigh muscles get jumpy/tendons hurt/knee caps ache. This year I might try to use wool tights with the Bouré tight

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Merino wool fishnet long john update: First longer coldish weather ride with the merino wool fishnet top (I don't use the bottoms until around zero). 22˚F starting out, dropping to 10˚F on top with 30mph winds, then warming up to 32˚ F dropping back to home. I continue to be amazed by this

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my hands-down favorite cold weather merino wool base layer is Minus33. Midweight. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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Update: Brynje fishnet merino wool longjohns arrived yesterday and I got to test them out on my bike/run today. They are at least as warm as Wiggys. There is no getting away from the nylon feel of Wiggys. I feel like I'm with Bret Bear self stranded on the Alaska coast and we've found fishnet

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Dear Deacon, U B crazy. :-) Me? I'm I SW Florida near the Everglades. Under 70 degrees I'm in sweats. On Tuesday, December 6, 2016 at 7:19:05 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: > Fishnet. Wiggy’s (same company in Colorado that does Riv’s sleeping bag. >

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I once meant to create a dickey out of something like Tyvek, but ended up with a couple cut from old merino turtlenecks; very useful for those in between days, where a merino base layer plus an outer wool layer is not quite enough. I find I need neck protection in cold weather, otherwise I quickly

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On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Patrick Moore wrote: > > You know the old roadie trick: stuff a used Gazzetto della Sport under > your jersey for the descent. > > Patrick Moore, > In that spirit, my friend uses a square of mylar metallic fabric (as seen in shiny novelty

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That was a leading double-dash bullet ahead of each bullet item, so not -25˚F, but -- 25˚F. Sorry for the confusion. Newspaper? Do they still print those? Grin. Unless you meant to stuff my iPhone in my jersey? Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, December 15, 2016 at 10:49:53 AM UTC-7,

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I just read that the Inuit would forego base layers in all but the most horrendously cold weather, because it tended otherwise to trap moisture. Of course, their outer garments were in respect of heat management, unsurpassed. Patrick: you said: 0F: mesh, cotton flannel, Ventile jacket climbing =

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Learning curve of fishnet long johns follow-up: -- Wiggy's nylon is stunningly effective and unfortunately rough. Mojo's Brynje merino version will soon be swimming the Atlantic and riding the burro my way. I asked Rhodri at http://www.nordiclife.co.uk about their synthetic fabric and he said

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Been telling Grant to do a must oneise for a while...

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Fishnet works well, cotton is all I have used, but it chafes under a pack or belt. On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Deacon Patrick wrote: > Rhodri at http://www.nordiclife.co.uk is the US importer of Brynje via > bloody England. He's very helpful via chat though. They have

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Rhodri at http://www.nordiclife.co.uk is the US importer of Brynje via bloody England. He's very helpful via chat though. They have merino net. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, December 6, 2016 at 5:19:05 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Fishnet. Wiggy’s (same company in Colorado that does

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Patrick, Mojo, Thanks for the links! Now if we could find a less expensive source than Brynje's for bottoms, as Deacon would also like, that would be even better. Cheers On Tuesday, December 6, 2016 at 7:15:30 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: > > So, cotton works well? Good to know, since cotton

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Cotton would be lovely! Yes, I didn't get the bottoms from Wiggy's for that very reason, but if anyone finds a source of fishnet pants, especially cotton, please pass it along! With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, December 6, 2016 at 5:19:05 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Fishnet. Wiggy’s

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So, cotton works well? Good to know, since cotton fishnet seems to be readily available. This? https://www.amazon.com/Crystal-Cotton-String-Fishnet-T-Shirt/dp/B00ZIAT82S On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 8:04 PM, GAJett wrote: > I have used fishnet for over 45 years, and some of my

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I have used fishnet for over 45 years, and some of my current inventory dates to that time. NOTHING compares to the flexibility of fishnet as a base layer. Large air pockets create a very warm layer next to the skin, especially if the overlying layer fits closely. Opening the outer layer