[RBW] Re: Forward rocking vibration with long reach brakes

2013-02-14 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Don't be embarrassed. It happened to me frequently with an Ultegra headset I had on my Atlantis. I had to snug it up every couple months. More recently, I experienced a similar thing on a different bike, and checked the usual suspects: brakes, headset, cracks in the frame/fork, etc. Nothing.

Re: [RBW] Re: Forward rocking vibration with long reach brakes

2013-02-14 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Ah HA! Thought so! I remember how, on Riv #1, I installed the lower race bearing surface (steel running surface for the bottom bearings in the aluminum cup) somehow upside down. I could not get the danged headset adjusted properly: either it bound or it was loose -- and damned frustrating. I had

[RBW] Re: Forward rocking vibration with long reach brakes

2013-02-14 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Great to hear that you ran down the issue! That is what _success_ sounds like in bike mechanictry... - J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Forward rocking vibration with long reach brakes

2013-02-14 Thread Tim Tetrault
Jim, that self canceling phenomenon can really be the fly in the ointment when it comes to diagnosis. Well said. And kudos to you for lubing the threads before retightening, I recently learned that this can help the fastener bite its match with greater ease, leaving things even tighter.

[RBW] Re: Forward rocking vibration with long reach brakes

2013-02-13 Thread Tim Tetrault
Closure: It WAS the dang headset. ::embarrassed:: I'm still getting used to a threaded setup. On Friday, January 25, 2013 6:13:36 PM UTC-8, Tim Tetrault wrote: Anybody have experience clearing up this forward rocking I have with my long reach Tektros that are in the standard build for the

[RBW] Re: Forward rocking vibration with long reach brakes

2013-02-13 Thread Don Compton
Tim, I had the same problem with some Tektros std reach breaks on one my bikes. I had some Shimano std reach brakes and switched them on the bike and the problem went away. The Tektros brakeset had a lot of flexibility in the quick release. On Friday, January 25, 2013 6:13:36 PM UTC-8, Tim

[RBW] Re: Forward rocking vibration with long reach brakes

2013-01-28 Thread Tim Tetrault
Thanks all- I had some luck today by straightening out the brake itself and matching the timing of when the pads were hitting the rim. I think I will try and bring the brake closer to the fork crown and might even try the Sheldon nut if I have no luck there. For all that the internet is, I am

Re: [RBW] Re: Forward rocking vibration with long reach brakes

2013-01-27 Thread Bruce Herbitter
Are the brake pads toed in properly? Are the attachment bolts snug? They come loose over time allowing the caliper to shift. Somethings to check in addition to Jeremy's notes. On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote: So the first thing I would try is making

[RBW] Re: Forward rocking vibration with long reach brakes

2013-01-27 Thread Tim Tetrault
I should have noted that this is *not* a headset issue- though I thought it was at first. If I hop off the bike and lock the front break and rock the bike back and forth over the front wheel I can actually see the brake arms shift forward, eliciting the slight knock, back and forward. This is

[RBW] Re: Forward rocking vibration with long reach brakes

2013-01-27 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Yeah. A knock means something is shifting under load. Something may not be seated correctly or torqued properly. That's definitely different than brake shudder. That does look a trifle long in front of the crown. Have you ever run the bike without the fenders? - You might take a look at

[RBW] Re: Forward rocking vibration with long reach brakes

2013-01-26 Thread Jeremy Till
I'd say that your mechanic is kind of right in that brake shudder can be magnified by long reach brakes, thanks to the flex inherent in the longer brake arms, but the long arms are not necessarily the cause. Shudder is caused by irregularities in braking force--which cause the brake pads to

[RBW] Re: Forward rocking vibration with long reach brakes

2013-01-25 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Photos on setup issues are a good idea. There are a goodly number of variables in brake setup, as well as perceived feelings. But, there's really no inherent reason why you should get vibration from longer arm brakes. It certainly _can_ happen with some setupsThere was a long set of