PS- previously had drops below saddle.
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I'm still dialing in a 55cm Cheviot. This helped be a lot and I am getting
close. http://zedmartinez.com/2016/06/rivendell-clem-smith-jr/ *I* like the
Bosco bars on it and have a 120 cm stem. I also have the stoker knobs but
have not installed them yet. I may have to move the saddle back a bit.
Thanks, Jack.
Could you post a pic of your setup and what the bars look like as far as
wrapping?
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Lum, my story is a counterpoint to yours:
After years of riding drop bars, I developed some neck problems which made
riding drop bars uncomfortable. After a long trial-and-error process with
handlebars and stems, I now ride Albatross bars exclusively. My neck is
comfortable, and I also have
I hadn't really thought much about this until this thread came along but it
occurs to me that I've had my Allrounder in all sorts of configurations
with drops and mustache bars, but about two years ago I converted it to a
more upright cruiser albatross with racks to transport stuff thinking it
I also concur - upright is less desirable than drops. I have two bikes with
drop bars and two bikes with "original" mustache bars. On one of those
bikes - a tandem - my wife rides stoker with albatross and I captain with
mustache. I get minimal power from my legs in an upright posture. Just
My eye-opening into the possibilities of uprights, and swept-back ones at
that, came when I first talked to Freddie Hoffman, who rode 50,000 miles a
year all thru the eighties on sweptback uprights (sbu?). A similar
eye-opening came 21 years ago, when a customer who lives in Toronto, Jim
Over the past few years I've converted all my wife's bikes to flat bars.
These days she rides about 15000km/year, and she used to race on drop bars,
but as someone with pretty small hands she prefers the shifting and braking
available with flat bar levers and shifters. She quite happily rides
I agree completely with the OP.
Noodles (or similar) drops allow me to adjust according to comfort and
wind...which is the point of drop bars in the first place.
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I'm happy to see this thread. I've tried upright bars on a V-O Polyvalent,
then a V-O Campeur, and now a Rivendell Cheviot, and haven't fallen in love
with the set-up on any of them. They're okay, but just okay. I don't find
them as comfortable---as natural-feeling---as drops set at saddle
Hi Lum,
I cannot find the earlier discussion I had mentioned this but have you
tried these bars on a bicycle? They are mustache bars with a smaller
drop. I believe SOMAFAB has them as a 3 speed mustache bar.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/pereiracycles/3983134786/
I'm not sure that my riding position qualifies as "upright" as being
discussed in this thread but all of my bikes end up with the handlebars
7-8cm higher than my saddle and I consider my position to be upright.
After years of discomfort, no matter what I tried, I accidently discovered
that
Garth:
The reason for the short stems on uprights is so I can sit bolt upright
because leaning forward causes the pain on the sweep back areas of the
upright bars.
I am fine leaning on the tops of the Albatrii and Boscos, just like drops
tops at any height. Its the swept back parts of bars
Count me as one who does not like upright bars as well. I have tried
(Albatross, Mustache, MAP/Aherne, Jithensa, Riv Bull Moose, Nitto Straight
bars, Nitto Risers) I get hand/palm pain very quickly. I use 46cm noodles,
have been on the bike as long as 12hrs in one shot and had zero hand pain.
Lum: I feel your pain. At least, I feel my pain, which seems to be similar
to yours. I've owned at least 6 original design Moustache bars, and I've
tried them on at least 8 bikes over the years; and while I really, really
like the idea, I've never been able to get them nearly as comfortable as
Just from your description of the sensations I can tell this is fitting
issue, not necessarily a bar issue. It's all too easy and understandable
to blame the bars themselves for a fitting and or frame/stem issue. From
the pics Lum, the Albatross bars are wa high, too high for you. The
Thanks for the reponses and input.
I have tried upright twice now. Once with Albas on an oversized Sam, and
once with Boscos on a 53 Bleriot, and Albas on a 55 Bleriot. I lasted a
month with the Albas/Sam. I have had the Bleriot Bosco-ed for the better
part of a year now.
I always ride upright and I've found that if the saddle height is about
even with the grips (or grips just a smidge higher), that is a sweet spot,
assuming the grips are comfy and the saddle's broken in.
Sometimes you see these setups depicted on the riv website/blug with the
stem at max
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