[RBW] Re: GAP Trail from Confluence to Rockwood, PA

2014-04-25 Thread ascpgh
A very strong point I think many realize but fail to apply for the benefit of any riding group. It was the lacking sentiment that sent me to the trails to find my own biking enjoyment a long time ago. Knowing it is possible for myself allows me to do keep the riding fun for others. Less

Re: [RBW] Re: GAP Trail from Confluence to Rockwood, PA

2014-04-25 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Hey Andy, Sorry to hear that your Philmont experience was more death march than fun adventure... I had the wonderfull opportunity to do that trip twice ( '94 and '95), the second year we took a more aggressive hi-mileage trek but it was definitely a group decision. Erl, Great points, I need to

[RBW] Re: GAP Trail from Confluence to Rockwood, PA

2014-04-25 Thread Deacon Patrick
Och, Andy! How many of your compatriots learned to love wilderness adventure after that racing mentality? Gadzooks! Where you ended up, seeking and finding the gift so very oddly wrapped, is the best place to end up when the cause of suffering is beyond your control. Attitude within suffering

[RBW] Re: GAP Trail from Confluence to Rockwood, PA

2014-04-25 Thread Ken D
Great to see a thread on the GAP. I've done much of it, both with kids and friends. With kids, I tend to spend the night indoors (you were near the Levi Deal Mansion BB in Meyersdale which I highly recommend for cyclists). The stretch of the trail from Meyersdale to Frostburg, MD is the most

Re: [RBW] Re: GAP Trail from Confluence to Rockwood, PA

2014-04-25 Thread ascpgh
Tony, To the contrary, my trip at Philmont was stellar. My take on the itinerary was that programs are fine but often were detractions to the peace and beauty available if one looked around. Iron pot stew is fine but making a freeze-dried repast on the top of Mount Phillips over what became an

[RBW] Re: GAP Trail from Confluence to Rockwood, PA

2014-04-24 Thread Howard H
Nice write-up. I wish I could convince my wife to do a trip like that. Thanks for sharing. Howard On Monday, April 21, 2014 9:53:30 AM UTC-4, WETH wrote: Riv content: Two Rivendell-inspired riders, two Riv’d out Surly LHTs, a large Saddlesack, a platrack, and a Slickersack. This summer

[RBW] Re: GAP Trail from Confluence to Rockwood, PA

2014-04-24 Thread WETH
Dear Howard, Thanks. In terms of my wife and riding, it has been an evolution. Three years ago I was hoping she would ride more with me, and I never thought she'd do an overnight. We started with very short neighborhood rides, often with the kids. As she complained about bike fit, I

Re: [RBW] Re: GAP Trail from Confluence to Rockwood, PA

2014-04-24 Thread Hugh Smitham
Irl, That's a great lesson...one I'll be working on tomorrow with my wife as we ride on the Beach. ~Hugh “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/ On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 5:11 PM, WETH

[RBW] Re: GAP Trail from Confluence to Rockwood, PA

2014-04-24 Thread Deacon Patrick
My wife doesn't feel comfortable on a bike yet and I haven't been able to get her willing to ride one long enough to get comfortable, especially since she has at least one wee one to haul. The way we do bikepacking is pick a destination she can easily hike to just a few miles in. The older

[RBW] Re: GAP Trail from Confluence to Rockwood, PA

2014-04-24 Thread WETH
Patrick, you are certainly asking the key question and creating wonderful experiences and memories with the answer(s)! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

[RBW] Re: GAP Trail from Confluence to Rockwood, PA

2014-04-23 Thread WETH
Dear Andy, Thanks for the information and suggestions. I really appreciate it. Dear Tony, I look forward to hearing about your trip in May. As Andy wrote, the trail is quite nice and in great shape. Perhaps we can work in a weekend ride before your trip. All the best, Erl -- You received

[RBW] Re: GAP Trail from Confluence to Rockwood, PA

2014-04-23 Thread hsmitham
Erl, Enjoyed the post and pictures. I think it's a wonderful notion to do a ride like this with your boys. I love the Strawberry Quick drink, I favor a Strawberry Malt myself. I really look to the future post and pictures of this great family tour. ~Hugh On Monday, April 21, 2014 6:53:30 AM

[RBW] Re: GAP Trail from Confluence to Rockwood, PA

2014-04-22 Thread ascpgh
WETH: The urban part from Eliza Furnace Trail via the Hot Metal Bridge has only been open a year or so and is along the Monongahela and then the Youghiogheny Rivers and I've yet to ride it through although along the river I'll venture a guess that it's less than railroad grade at its

[RBW] Re: GAP Trail from Confluence to Rockwood, PA

2014-04-22 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Erl what a great 'pre-getaway' trip! You covered some of the ground in hoping to do with my dad in may. Thanks for the report and the pictures. And I totally applaud your pace! I just had a conversation with a tri inclined friend tonight about average crushing speeds and it was clear he and

[RBW] Re: GAP Trail from Confluence to Rockwood, PA

2014-04-21 Thread Deacon Patrick
Fantastic! How far do your sons enjoy riding? My one suggestion is to let them pick the distance as much as possible (practical concerns like we have to reach food/water/camping as part of that decision). On the trails we've done that translated to 7-15 miles on trail, or 30 miles on road.

Re: [RBW] Re: GAP Trail from Confluence to Rockwood, PA

2014-04-21 Thread cyclotourist
The trail looks like a fantastic ride! Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 7:09 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Fantastic! How far do your sons enjoy riding? My one suggestion is to let them pick the distance as much as

Re: [RBW] Re: GAP Trail from Confluence to Rockwood, PA

2014-04-21 Thread Minh
Nice! The stretch from Confluence down to Cumberland (the start) is just as nice, especially some of the higher railroad bridges. this will be a good trip for the family, not too difficult either in terms of climbing or terrain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed

[RBW] Re: GAP Trail from Confluence to Rockwood, PA

2014-04-21 Thread ascpgh
What a fantastic trip and great idea to pre-run sections before bringing the kids along. I took my nephew from Pittsburgh to Ohiopyle for a long weekend of biking and white water rafting. He'd never imagined riding a hundred miles and only put ten together non-stop before. The key for keeping

[RBW] Re: GAP Trail from Confluence to Rockwood, PA

2014-04-21 Thread WETH
Dear Patrick, last summer they did 30 plus miles on paved trails and roads. They are a year older, stronger, and more opinionated now! We are toying with 5 days for the trip with the following mileage days: 37 miles, 25 mileS, 27 miles, 20 miles, 44 miles (mostly downhill into Cumberland).

[RBW] Re: GAP Trail from Confluence to Rockwood, PA

2014-04-21 Thread Deacon Patrick
I look forward to hearing how it goes and the photos! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to