Is 700 X 38 really mid-fat? Man, y'all need to get on a bike with 60mm Super
Motos and see what the REAL plush and fast experience is about.
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Haha! Well, if 700x38 is more like skinny-fat, then I am missin' out :-P
KJ
On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 4:14:47 PM UTC-4, Mike Shaljian wrote:
Is 700 X 38 really mid-fat? Man, y'all need to get on a bike with 60mm
Super Motos and see what the REAL plush and fast experience is about.
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I had that same kind of moment when I first tried Hetres on my Sam. They
transformed the bike that made me change my mind that tires didn't make
huge differences.
After a hundred kilometers if I was lucky got a slash that cut right across
the casing of the tire and the tire was useless. That
I agree with Joe-- the only way if you'll get punctures is to try them. I
commute through Cambridge MA, and roads conditions are not great. Lots of
potholes and debris. I've been lucky only to get one pinch flat. In
addition to road conditions, I think some folks ride lighter than others...
I also hate getting flats. My current setup of Marathon Supremes with Mr Tuffy
tire liners and Slime tubes has been working pretty good. Can't wait to upgrade
to these babies though:
http://tinyurl.com/ljzv5xo
David G, Flat Free, in San D
On Mar 31, 2015, at 7:36 PM, 'hangtownmatt' via
I can't speak to its effectiveness for punctures caused by other than
thorns, but Stan's is a miracle compared (IME) to Slime and True Goo and
ilk; as I've repeated ad nauseam, 2 oz of Stan's added every quarter (very
dry climate) lets me ride tubeless paper thin, 360 gram 50 mm tires in our
To those looking for a nice mid-fat 700c slick that straddles supple and
durable, consider the Vittoria Voyager Hyper 700x38.
I've had a set of these on my commuter for a few months and they have been
awesome. Really nice road feel and zero flats while riding through broken
glass and
Supple tires make a difference, but I'm primarily a commuter averaging 100
to 150 miles a week and am skeptical they would be a good choice for my
application. I HATE fixing flats on cold dark mornings at 5 AM and really
appreciated getting just a hair under 10,000 miles out of my Marathon
I am so torn on these tires. I'm currently riding 40mm Duremes and I'm
very unhappy with them. They are sluggish and when I make a sharp turn,
which I do quite often, the outside lugs feel squirmy and it's very
unsettling. On the other hand, I worry about flats and overall durability
of the
After carefully considering everyone's great feedback and rereading Jan
Heine's articles on tire size and pressure, I finally got to take my maiden
voyage on the Synergy wheels and brand, spankin' new Compass Barlow Pass
tires. Holy cow! I had no idea what I've been missing! I now understand
Since these are on a second set of wheels, I will be swapping them when I
commute. I agree that getting a flat at 6am while racing to catch a train
would be bad since I start class at 8am. My commute is along often dark
gravel paths and city streets. For that, I will be using the 36h Mavic
Matt,
I think the only way to know for sure is to try. Luckily, supple tires have
great re-sale value on the list. I planned to take off the fragile GB
Cypres 700x32s once the rains hit last year...they're still on. I've had
zero punctures (one pothole pinch flat) in 9 months of my 10 miles a day
Looking forward to my first ride on the lighter wheels and Compass tires!
John
On Saturday, March 14, 2015 at 6:34:55 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
I was sitting on BART, contemplating the look of my Barlow Pass
Extralights. Already they look positively svelte to me.
On Saturday,
Funny, I remember when I thought going to 25mm tires was CRAZ! How could
anyone ride tires that fat!
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I got the Hillborne because the largest tire I could *squeeze* onto my
Bianchi was a 25. Loved that bike but I'll never go back!
On Sunday, March 15, 2015 at 6:22:33 PM UTC-7, Tim wrote:
Funny, I remember when I thought going to 25mm tires was CRAZ! How
could anyone ride tires that
Would love to go for the Rodeo. It's beautiful... and what a nice build!
Alas, a professor's salary limits me to probably one Riv for quite a
while. Feel like I chose well with the Hillborne.
John
On Saturday, March 14, 2015 at 12:53:50 PM UTC-7, RJM wrote:
I rode the Stampede Pass on my
BTW... When did they build a Hillborne with 650b tires? Was that the
earlier green ones with the 59cm top tube (on the 56)? I always loved the
650b Hilson but that's pretty far out of my price range.
On Saturday, March 14, 2015 at 12:53:50 PM UTC-7, RJM wrote:
I rode the Stampede Pass on
I have Supremes on my city bike, and they're fine. Vittoria Hyper is VERY
similar and I have them on the Riv I road today
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157650933911909
But you did say go-fast wheels, so any of the Compass offerings are
fantastic and will feel nicer. Jack Browns
I want to thank everyone again for all the feedback you've provided. This
has been a great learning experience for me. I'll be curious to see what
those 35 Bon Jon Pass tires will be like (On the first read I thought you
wrote Bon Jovi Pass!). However, I'm went with the group's advice and
I was sitting on BART, contemplating the look of my Barlow Pass
Extralights. Already they look positively svelte to me.
On Saturday, March 14, 2015 at 5:58:32 PM UTC-7, Surlyprof wrote:
I want to thank everyone again for all the feedback you've provided. This
has been a great learning
I rode the Stampede Pass on my Roadeo last year and found them to be great
tires. I'm sure the lighter ones that Compass sells are a bit quicker.
I also have a Sam Hillborne but it takes 650b wheels and with that bike for
go fast tires I used Pari Motos. Those were pretty quick tires.
It's a
Uh, I think it's the Elk Pass that's available in Extralight only, not the
Rat Trap Pass (BQ, Spring 2015, page 4).
rod
On Saturday, March 14, 2015 at 12:01:19 PM UTC-4, Richard L. wrote:
The Spring 2015 Bicycle Quarterly indicates there will be a Compass 35 -
622 tire, the Bon Jon Pass.
The Spring 2015 Bicycle Quarterly indicates there will be a Compass 35 -
622 tire, the Bon Jon Pass. The tire's not yet shown on the Compass web
site, and there is no availability date in the magazine.
Other new tire offerings per the magazine are: 55-559, Rat Trap
Pass (Extralight only);
48mm 650b
Exciting.
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I used to ride Jack Brown greens on my Hilsen. In the past I've never been one
to notice much difference in tires. I put Stampede Pass tires on last spring
and the difference was amazing. I'm considering the extra light version this
year.
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John -
I think the compass tires are blissful, light-ish, and go-fastish tires
which are perfect for road riding in the summertime on the Hillborne. The
Supremes, not so much.
I have yet to get a flat on the compass barlow pass extra lights. Fingers
crossed, but it just hasn't happened
I'd recommend the 700x38 Barlow Pass Extralight from Compass. You can
thank me later
Bill riding-700x38-Barlow-Pass-EL-on-a-56cm-Hillborne Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA
On Wednesday, March 11, 2015 at 8:28:05 AM UTC-7, Surlyprof wrote:
I can't afford to do too much experimenting when it comes to
Now you guys have me thinking about switching from Stampede Pass to Barlowe
Pass extra light...
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I have 38ish Marathon Supremes on my Atlantis for commuting mounted on 36
hole XT/Mavic A719 rims. I've also run JB Blues on there and on my 56
Hillborne on the same rim. There's clearly a comfort difference with the
bigger rubber and they are a little slower to spin up, but it doesn't seem
My experience is like so many others already provided. I recently
installed Barlow Pass extra lights on my Quickbeam fixed-wheel bike. I
needed to switch the rear cog to compensate for the additional speed. My
prior tire was just as wide, but these tires are noticeably more
Compass featherlight are amazing and handle mild dirt roads (and of course
pavement) excellently. They lack tread for steeper/looser dirt and trails,
especially where there is riding on moderate or more cambered surfaces.
That's based on the Barlow Pass on my Quickbeam, which is what I would
Vittoria Voyager Hypers in 35,38 or 40 official, about 33,35 and 38 actual .
Get them from planetx.co.uk ,search for vittoria+hyper (both same tyre)
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Echoing everyone else-
I'll never buy Schwalbe tires again unless the goal is to have them live
through an alpaca-lips. You could go with Soma C-Lines, any of the 32 and
up Compass (EL for extra comfort and speed), or nearly anything else.
You're almost definitely better off with Fatter,
Echoing what others have said, adding the Barlow Pass extra light tires is
prob the most important thing I have done to improve my riding since
actually buying a Riv.
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Thanks for all the feedback! I really appreciate everyone's knowledge and
experience on this one. Schwalbe may not be dead to me but... it may be on
life support.
John
On Wednesday, March 11, 2015 at 8:28:05 AM UTC-7, Surlyprof wrote:
I can't afford to do too much experimenting when it
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