Re: [RBW] Re: Gotham Cargo Crate

2013-08-06 Thread SMP
I decided to go with the wald basket. Luckily, I was able to find my old medium one in the basement. Just ordered a Mark's rack to seal the deal! On Sunday, August 4, 2013 1:50:11 AM UTC+2, SMP wrote: If I go for the medium Wald, I would definitely use some sort of front rack to stabilize

[RBW] Re: Gotham Cargo Crate

2013-08-03 Thread SMP
Hi Tom, I now understand your rationale and concern. I cannot imagine how I would give the crate 'break-away' functionality, so I am seriously considering going with the Wald medium basket instead. Anyway, from my experience, things sold on the Rivendell site just seem to work with minimal

Re: [RBW] Re: Gotham Cargo Crate

2013-08-03 Thread Christopher Chen
The medium basket is quite useful, especially on a stable platform: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/9411592963/in/photostream/ On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 9:11 AM, SMP sume...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Tom, I now understand your rationale and concern. I cannot imagine how I would give the

Re: [RBW] Re: Gotham Cargo Crate

2013-08-03 Thread Patrick Moore
Also: I hope that the box contains the statutory Pale Ale? On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: That's a pretty impressive front load; 15 lbs? 20 lbs? Doesn't that amount make the bike hard to handle in traffic, given Rivendell's signature

Re: [RBW] Re: Gotham Cargo Crate

2013-08-03 Thread Patrick Moore
That's a pretty impressive front load; 15 lbs? 20 lbs? Doesn't that amount make the bike hard to handle in traffic, given Rivendell's signature medium-to-high-trail geometry? On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Christopher Chen cc...@nougat.org wrote: The medium basket is quite useful, especially

Re: [RBW] Re: Gotham Cargo Crate

2013-08-03 Thread Patrick Moore
*One* more: the reason for asking about the handling is that I tried large Wald baskets a few years ago, not on Rivendells but on old Schwinns, and with any load more than a few lbs, the handling became very dicey -- and I was riding only 1/2 mile rt, though among cars. I gave up baskets because

Re: [RBW] Re: Gotham Cargo Crate

2013-08-03 Thread SMP
I had a similar experience on my Riv: http://www.flickr.com/x/t/0092009/photos/sumehra/5629443174/ Fully loaded with groceries... Dicey doesn't even begin to describe the handling. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To

Re: [RBW] Re: Gotham Cargo Crate

2013-08-03 Thread Robert Harrison
I see you are using a Wald with the strut attachments. I've never much cared for that arrangement as the basket does seem to move side to side a bit. I always attach my baskets directly to a front rack - usually the Nitto mini-front and in the past (and future I'm sure) on the now discontinued

Re: [RBW] Re: Gotham Cargo Crate

2013-08-03 Thread Patrick Moore
Robert: that is interesting: a stable platform makes a front basket much less likely to affect handling? All my Newsboy and slightly smaller experiments were without racks, just using the basket struts. I'm curious since, IMO, a big, front-mounted container is the easiest way to deal with things

Re: [RBW] Re: Gotham Cargo Crate

2013-08-03 Thread Robert Harrison
It's my experience that a stable front platform beats basket struts hands down. I've no empirical proof of that, just my own experience. :-) I generally ride with 7-15 pounds up front without trouble on a regular basis. I'd be okay up to 20 lbs in a pinch but at that point would definitely add

Re: [RBW] Re: Gotham Cargo Crate

2013-08-03 Thread blakcloud
My wife on her Betty uses a Mark's mini with a medium Wald basket and it works fine for the light loads she rides with. I on the other hand have the same basket but attached to a Gomah porteur rack. This works extremely well for me and I can carry quite a bit. My bike is not a Riv so handling

Re: [RBW] Re: Gotham Cargo Crate

2013-08-03 Thread SMP
If I go for the medium Wald, I would definitely use some sort of front rack to stabilize it. Regarding the total weight though, I would think that a Crate with aluminum struts would add about the same amount of weight as a Mark's mini + Wald medium, don't you think? On Sunday, August 4, 2013

Re: [RBW] Re: Gotham Cargo Crate

2013-08-03 Thread Christopher Chen
Actually I'll say since getting the Big Front Rack, I've been able to carry impressive front loads up high without a huge effect on handling. Before, I had a Mark's rack with the double strut mod, and it was pretty competent, but I would get the shimmy when getting out of the saddle to climb, etc.

Re: [RBW] Re: Gotham Cargo Crate

2013-08-03 Thread Christopher Chen
Actually it's lager! On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Also: I hope that the box contains the statutory Pale Ale? On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.comwrote: That's a pretty impressive front load; 15 lbs? 20 lbs? Doesn't

[RBW] Re: Gotham Cargo Crate

2013-08-02 Thread SMP
Tom--first, thanks for the compliments. My bike is blushing :). Second, regarding your aversion to using a wooden crate due to crashing... Do you mean the crash will be that much worse because pieces of wood would fly everywhere and jab me in a vital organ, but maybe a wald basket would just

[RBW] Re: Gotham Cargo Crate

2013-08-02 Thread Tom Virgil
SMP My concern is me (or you) falling on a corner of the crate. I think a Wald would crumple a bit. I don't think think this is a huge concern, just a moderate concern. Perhaps if the crate could be attached to be stable for most circumstances but break away on a severe impact it would be

[RBW] Re: Gotham Cargo Crate

2013-08-01 Thread Tom Virgil
You ask if this is a terrible idea. Your bike is drop dead gorgeous. I also think the crates are wonderfully crafted. But I think the crates are substantial, wooden things with metal corners (perhaps, not the Autumn, but it is angular). They are quite elegant. I don't want to crash with