this ^^ is the first thing that makes sense in this whole thread.
There are all kinds of fish in this giant fishbowl. Some wear sandals and
baggy shorts...that's not me. Lycra/wool shorts have a place for
performance riding, On tour, some loose fitting over-shorts are more
appropriate.
That was my feeling. She seemed to be reading too much into Just Ride and
projecting her own interpretation. I read the letter scratched my head,
not understanding why she seemed so put out.
dougP
On Tuesday, February 24, 2015 at 3:45:57 PM UTC-8, Chris in Redding, Ca.
wrote:
Hey All,
I can't remember who first stated it in this epic thread, but I'll agree that
Grant's response was a little disingenuous-- Just Ride is definitely not a
kumbaya, just-do-your-own-thing get along gang book. It says in many places
that people who use clipless shoes, or wear lycra, or are more
On 02/25/2015 05:39 PM, Brewster Fong wrote:
Now, this is nothing but anedotal and just one example, but for my
buddy, the right tool got him going! I don't care what it was made out
of, but the supposedly stiff, uncomfortable aluminum frame road bike
got him hooked and we love it!
Some of
Brewster Fong bfd...@gmail.com wrote:
Btw, for all you paleo lovers, you'll hate this guy! While dropping 30lbs,
he still eats like a pig and that includes massive amounts of noodles, rice
and bread (hey, a guy's got to carbo load!)...
Kudos to him! I wish I had a 24 oz beer right now with
Haha I laughed out loud when picturing that
On Feb 25, 2015, at 6:58 PM, Doug Williams salg...@minbaritm.com wrote:
There are many riders who can NOT conceive of going for a bike ride without
their clipless shoes, jersey, the whole kit. How sad! I mean...there isn't
anything wrong with
On Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 6:21:59 AM UTC-8, Jim Bronson wrote:
Guilty as charged. In fact I am definitely not an adherent to Grant's
thoughts on cycling attire. I'm wearing plum-smuggling cycling shorts
every time I ride, unless it's a very, very short ride.
But unlike some
I wonder sometimes if the basic image of people getting railroaded into
buying a race bike for general riding is still true, if it ever was. Grant
compares his bikes to MCFRBs, but a more apt comparison is probably a...
hybrid. Big clearances, upright positioning, fenders, racks, etc. And
that's
A. Thanks for the sarcasm. B. There certainly were not a plethora of
English 3-speeds running around here 25 years ago, and those hybrids
mimicked the same riding position and drivetrains of MTBs. Also, the
mid-'90s Globe was a sales failure, as Mike Sinyard addressed some years
later when
One way to know your message has really gotten out there is when some
people you don't know start to genuinely hate you, hahaha!
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
Brewster Fong bfd...@gmail.com wrote:
Btw, for all you paleo lovers, you'll hate this
On Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 7:06:34 AM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:
When I started cycling in 1990 the landscape in Northern California was
roadies in lycra, mountain bikers in lycra, and po' folks like me in street
clothes on Goodwill beater bikes. There was no in between.
Hmmmn,
There are many riders who can NOT conceive of going for a bike ride without
their clipless shoes, jersey, the whole kit. How sad! I mean...there isn't
anything wrong with wearing your kit to go on a serious bike ride. But for
a short ride, you wind up spending more time dressing and undressing
I pictured the children smacking their foreheads in embarrassment for their
parents. Now that image makes me laugh.
~Hugh
On Feb 25, 2015 5:01 PM, Mark Reimer marknrei...@gmail.com wrote:
Haha I laughed out loud when picturing that
On Feb 25, 2015, at 6:58 PM, Doug Williams
Every runner knows those Damn walkers are just in the way Must be
winter.
On Feb 25, 2015 2:50 AM, 'pb' via RBW Owners Bunch
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote:
On Tuesday, February 24, 2015 at 8:18:22 PM UTC-8, Doug Williams wrote:
pb,
Hmmm...I'm glad that you found a few good
Can you share the letter to which Grant was responding?
On Tuesday, February 24, 2015 at 1:08:44 PM UTC-8, Jon in the foothills of
Central Colorado wrote:
In the new Adventure Cyclist Mag
PETERSEN RESPONDS TO READER
LETTER ‘UNRACING? UNCOOL’
Racing attitudes, bikes, clothing,
and diets
The letter Grant responds to was published in the February 2015 issue on page 9
in response to an October/November 2014 article about Grant. I can't get my
iPad to copy and paste the letter. Hopefully someone else will.
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I was just going to ask the same thing.
If you have followed Grant and Rivendell since 1994 -- heck, if you
followed Bridgestone Bicycles USA before that -- you can easily see that
Grant has had, I think it is fair to say, more influence in promoting, and
making possible, a serious but not
On Tuesday, February 24, 2015 at 7:16:52 PM UTC-8, pb wrote:
On Tuesday, February 24, 2015 at 4:57:32 PM UTC-8, Jim Bronson wrote:
Why? Why, over and over again? Because the racing philosophy has the
mainstream and the LBS. And it's not what serves most causal riders best,
and I
My LBS literally scoffed when I asked if they sold any steel bikes. They
said that steel is only on old and Walmart bikes. They had a nice all
aluminum Stumpjumper, one of 3 bikes without a CF of suspension fork. So
yeah I dont think grant is going all Nero on the bike biz but wants his
somewhat
Agreed, Jim. Grant's intention with Just Ride was to make an aggressive
statement about the legitimacy of cycling that is not racing. He clearly felt
that the benefits of this aggression outweighed the risk of alienating some
individuals. I fully agree. Making a few people peeved about bike
Peter, I was simply referencing that of the responses received, Ms.
Sternberg's was presumably the best, as it was published. I'm not going to
go into the flaws in her argument, other than to reiterate what Chris said
that she misses the point of Just Ride and is thus responding to a straw
On Tuesday, February 24, 2015 at 3:25:08 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
Is that the best rhetoric (argument, in the technical sense) the racing
crowd could produce? That rather says it all. Sardonic grin.
Huh? To what are you referring? What racing crowd? Which argument?
Norma
Hey All,
I think the critic of 'Just Ride' misses the point of 'Just Ride'. The
error is hers.
Chris
Redding, Ca.
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Well, it's not nearly as eloquent as Grant's response, but she does make a
few valid points. I say that as a long time fan of the bstone, and now
Riv, mode of riding. 20+ years riding certainly does give one the
opportunity to develop a good B.S detector about the various industry
factions and
Why? Why, over and over again? Because the racing philosophy has the
mainstream and the LBS. And it's not what serves most causal riders best,
and I applaud Grant for calling them out for it.
We all have seen at the LBS the times when some racerish young LBS employee
is trying to fit an older
On Tuesday, February 24, 2015 at 1:52:46 PM UTC-8, WETH wrote:
The letter Grant responds to was published in the February 2015 issue on
page 9 in response to an October/November 2014 article about Grant. I
can't get my iPad to copy and paste the letter. Hopefully someone else
will.
Interesting Norma talks about the Lycra wearing tourists. In fact, I think
U.S. touring cyclists are influenced by either racers, marketing or both.
If you have toured in the U.S. and elsewhere, you quickly notice how much
more prevalent are road style bikes with drop bars, cycling clothes,
On Tuesday, February 24, 2015 at 4:57:32 PM UTC-8, Jim Bronson wrote:
Why? Why, over and over again? Because the racing philosophy has the
mainstream and the LBS. And it's not what serves most causal riders best,
and I applaud Grant for calling them out for it.
We all have seen at the
pb,
Hmmm...I'm glad that you found a few good LBS's, but have you read a
mainstream bicycle magazine recently? I see all sorts of articles and
advertisements glorifying racing and bikes so lightweight that they are
completely impractical for normal use. I see VERY few articles and
Is that the best rhetoric (argument, in the technical sense) the racing
crowd could produce? That rather says it all. Sardonic grin.
With abandon,
Patrick
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On Tuesday, February 24, 2015 at 8:18:22 PM UTC-8, Doug Williams wrote:
pb,
Hmmm...I'm glad that you found a few good LBS's,
No, I called three, and got three answers. I made three calls. I got
three answers. I chose the three because they were representative of three
major corporate
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