Re: [RBW] Re: Hillborne dropbar, bar-ends: Cross shifter housings then cables?

2019-01-25 Thread Jeff Lesperance
Looks great - setup looks perfect. Makes me want to get a Sam again. -Jeff Silver Spring, MD On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 10:51 PM Pancake wrote: > Finished product (not crossed cables) attached: > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch"

[RBW] Re: Hillborne dropbar, bar-ends: Cross shifter housings then cables?

2019-01-18 Thread Pancake
Hi Jay. Love me some Sheldon Brown. Did you notice if I violated any of the 4 commandments? For what it’s worth, they do allow the bars to be turned all the way until the bar end shifters hit the lower top tube (thus the twine there to protect the frame). I tried to make them flow straight into

[RBW] Re: Hillborne dropbar, bar-ends: Cross shifter housings then cables?

2019-01-18 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
The Four Commandments of Cable Routing: 1. The handlebars must be able to turn as far as they can in both directions without being limited by a cable pulling taut. Instead, the turning limit must be set by the handlebar bumping into the top tube

[RBW] Re: Hillborne dropbar, bar-ends: Cross shifter housings then cables?

2019-01-18 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/cables.html On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 5:51:13 AM UTC+2, Pancake wrote: > > Finished product (not crossed cables) attached: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group

[RBW] Re: Hillborne dropbar, bar-ends: Cross shifter housings then cables?

2019-01-17 Thread Pancake
Should work now, oops: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-2zBoYVScBApm9PO7Ym0_BgB8bg6CKxZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Hillborne dropbar, bar-ends: Cross shifter housings then cables?

2019-01-17 Thread Ed Carolipio
Hey Pancake, I got curious about your setup and clicked the link but that folder is private. Just checking if you meant to do that. (If so, I'll send a separate request for permission to view.) Thanks again for sharing. --Ed C. On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 5:00:17 PM UTC-8, Pancake wrote:

Re: [RBW] Re: Hillborne dropbar, bar-ends: Cross shifter housings then cables?

2019-01-17 Thread Adam in Indiana
I've got my Sam set up as a 1x, and I still routed the shifter (11sp bar-end) to the left side of the downtube, then crossed it over to the proper channel under the bottom bracket en route to the derailer. It just makes for a more natural cable routing, I feel...and helps with paint rub. On

Re: [RBW] Re: Hillborne dropbar, bar-ends: Cross shifter housings then cables?

2019-01-17 Thread Pancake
Is this summary correct?: Standard routing is not to cross the cables. Keeps them short. But crossing them is an acceptable alternative that increases housing length a little, while possible avoiding some frame rub. May require tinkering under the downtube where the cables cross back for

Re: [RBW] Re: Hillborne dropbar, bar-ends: Cross shifter housings then cables?

2019-01-17 Thread hugh flynn
I don't remember when I first learned about the cross in front/recross under the downtube method but yeah, if you are looking for ways to minimize paint rub, it's a good option. As noted below, under tube bottle mounts can get in the way, but that varies by bike. On one frame, I had to add

[RBW] Re: Hillborne dropbar, bar-ends: Cross shifter housings then cables?

2019-01-16 Thread 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch
I've done that on bikes with drops and bar-ends when possible, to protect the frame. It is not conventional practice, but neither right nor wrong. Did it on my A. H. Hilsen and indexing seemed a little problematic with socket head water bottle bolts in the down tube, underside braze-ons. The