Re: [RBW] Re: Jan's Yellow Rivendell

2017-08-20 Thread Christopher Murray
I'd guess this being Jan's bike added 50% to the selling price ($900-1000 + 50%). This is based on previous sales I've seen. That said, you could do a lot worse for $1400. It should build up into a great bike and make someone happy for a long, long time. Cheers! Chris -- You received this

Re: [RBW] Re: Jan's Yellow Rivendell

2017-08-18 Thread Ryan Fleming
my 1997 Riv Waterford-built A/R was , I think, 1225 for base price - 1 colour + 100 for cream head tube + 25.00 for my name. But I could check the stud book at home :) On Friday, August 18, 2017 at 8:43:05 AM UTC-5, Doug Van Cleve wrote: > > I wasn't accounting for inflation, and Jan might not

Re: [RBW] Re: Jan's Yellow Rivendell

2017-08-18 Thread Doug Van Cleve
I wasn't accounting for inflation, and Jan might not have paid much more than that. My JS built Riv Road Standard was $1225 (or something like that) in '98-'99. Also, used ≠ new... Doug On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 5:56 AM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com>

Re: [RBW] Re: Jan's Yellow Rivendell

2017-08-18 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Accounting for inflation, $900 in 1995 equals $1,444 in 2017, so unless Jan paid less than $900 back then, it did not sell for more than he paid for it. On Thursday, August 17, 2017 at 4:18:46 PM UTC-4, Doug Van Cleve wrote: > > It depends on your perspective... Yes, you couldn't buy a new

Re: [RBW] Re: Jan's Yellow Rivendell

2017-08-17 Thread Doug Van Cleve
It depends on your perspective... Yes, you couldn't buy a new frameset built like this one for that amount of moolah. Very few things increase in value though, and it sold for more that Jan paid for it, so I would say it was above market value. I am sure its provenance drove up the cost at

Re: [RBW] Re: Jan's Yellow Rivendell

2017-08-17 Thread Joe Bunik
ha! yes, I forgot about that book!!! Not sure if that was the trigger for my thought or what. But is there such a concept (say, parallel to wabi-sabi), but for historical presence? On 8/17/17, George Cline wrote: > Historicity? I don't think it's Japanese, but it did

Re: [RBW] Re: Jan's Yellow Rivendell

2017-08-17 Thread George Cline
Historicity? I don't think it's Japanese, but it did feature prominently in Phillip K. Dick's "The Man in the High Castle." George in NoCal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[RBW] Re: Jan's Yellow Rivendell

2017-08-16 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Yes, on any given day, the auction market can vary. However, I would say generally when you have a very special frameset,you will leave money on the table one way or another if you sell it as a complete bicycle. But again, Jan having advertised it on his blog, then having it reposted, certainly

Re: [RBW] Re: Jan's Yellow Rivendell

2017-08-16 Thread Joe Bunik
On 8/16/17, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote: > ... > certain objects have a presence, a quality that is apparent, and seems to > gain in this > quality over time. > ... Isn't there a Japanese word for exactly this phenomena? Please, someone - I am

Re: [RBW] Re: Jan's Yellow Rivendell

2017-08-16 Thread Ryan Fleming
Probably not unreasonable...nice yellow colour and I bet it was well looked after On Wednesday, August 16, 2017 at 10:58:40 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Thanks. There was a much earlier article in BQ or VBQ in which Jan > compared his Riv to his later bikes and described his changing

Re: [RBW] Re: Jan's Yellow Rivendell

2017-08-16 Thread Eric Norris
If anyone wants to know when *not* to sell a bike, let me know. I have terrible timing. P.S. If anyone’s interested in a 1972 Cinelli Speciale Corsa, repainted by Joe Bell and restored to near-show condition, let me know. I’m selling mine. --Eric N www.CampyOnly.com CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com

[RBW] Re: Jan's Yellow Rivendell

2017-08-16 Thread iamkeith
On Wednesday, August 16, 2017 at 8:55:17 AM UTC-6, rw1911 wrote: > > Jan did very well for himself. I submit > http://www.ebay.com/itm/112439926538 where the buyer got a very nice > build for a true steal of a price. Agree - that's a screaming deal. I kind of wish I'd seen that one and

Re: [RBW] Re: Jan's Yellow Rivendell

2017-08-16 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks. There was a much earlier article in BQ or VBQ in which Jan compared his Riv to his later bikes and described his changing tastes; wish I could find that, since it contrasted Riv geometry with that which Jan is now associated with. (For the record, I prefer the Riv geometry, as far as I

[RBW] Re: Jan's Yellow Rivendell

2017-08-16 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
(Yes, unique can be good. But technically it can't be more unique, or too unique;^) Grammar aside, I agree the bike was worth the final selling price. The fact that Jan Heine was the seller might have helped generate interest and could have played into how people decided to bid, but even

[RBW] Re: Jan's Yellow Rivendell

2017-08-15 Thread iamkeith
I guess i don't see how that could be considered a high or artificially driven-up price. It's still considerably less than any current, lugged production frame - US or otherwise - and, in near perfect condition, has just as much life left in it. It's also historically significant and more

[RBW] Re: Jan's Yellow Rivendell

2017-08-15 Thread christian poppell
$1,426.00 Link to Jan's blog entry about Rivendell: https://janheine.wordpress.com/2017/07/22/1995-rivendell-turning-the-tide/ Link to ebay listing: http://m.ebay.com/itm/232420852275?_mwBanner=1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

[RBW] Re: Jan's Yellow Rivendell

2017-08-15 Thread Mattt
The final price was about $1,500. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

[RBW] Re: Jan's Yellow Rivendell

2017-08-15 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
What was the final hammer price? I agree, a fun color. I had a 1997 or 98 Ritchey Road Logic in a very similar shade of yellow. On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 8:27:11 PM UTC-4, christian poppell wrote: > > Who got it? Anyone on here? Great color! Anyone else think that the > pedigree of the