Your Clem holds it own very nicely against it's larger sibling. A definite
family resemblance.
On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 12:14:58 AM UTC-4, drew beckmeyer wrote:
here is our first family photo with the 46 clem and 54 hunqapillar on a
late night trip. laid back, long and stout.
The folks I've spoken to at Riv tell me that the Clem's stoutness falls
between the Sam and the Hunq. To me, that would put the Clem's stoutness
level near to the Atlantis, though obviously very different geometry.
Since the LHT is widely taken to be derivative from the Atlantis, one
could
here is our first family photo with the 46 clem and 54 hunqapillar on a
late night trip. laid back, long and stout.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-y71L3W_ubgw/VQ-R-15SPlI/AMY/f3RcJWfLecM/s1600/FullSizeRender%2B%2827%29.jpg
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I'll be test riding a clem this weekend and I'll let you know my thoughts.
Given the thick diameter tubes and overall stoutness/geometry of the bike,
I doubt anyone would consider the Clem a light anything. How you loas it
and what feels good is up to you, and perhaps the Clem will feel
It seems like most if not all Rivs are supposed to be suitable for the kind of
touring you're contemplating, like a Sam or Hilsen. If you already have a Riv,
you might not need a Clem.
Steve
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I don't understand the last sentence.
On Mar 20, 2015, at 3:25 AM, islaysteve wrote:
It seems like most if not all Rivs are supposed to be suitable for the kind
of touring you're contemplating, like a Sam or Hilsen. If you already have a
Riv, you might not need a Clem.
Steve
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What tires are you running on the LHT? I've found that light, supple tires
completely transform the ride experience of that bike, compared to the
armored touring tires commonly used. Try a set of Compass Barlow Pass
before you write it off.
rod
On Thursday, March 19, 2015 at 9:05:55 PM UTC-4,
Actually folks, I said nothing about a drop bar. My Surly has a straight
bar with bar ends and twist shifters and this has worked well for couple a
thousand miles of touring.
I don't do well with a fully upright position. Because of a herniated
disc, I need to be in a slightly forward leaning
I believe the idea with the long stays, long TT and a reach-back bar is to
put you in the center of a longbike, kinda like a chopper. In order to make
a dropbar work, (I surmise) you'd have to ride a too-small Clem for a
shorter TT, then stick a shorty stem in there. Which would leave the
I'm not quite sure what you are asking. The LHT is a normal touring bike.
Drop bars, rugged, etc. The Clem is not normal. There isn't another bike out
there like the Clem. For sure it's intended for upright bars and very relaxed
riding. The notion of replacing an LHT with a Clem sounds cool,
I intend to build my 59cm Clementine as if I were a kid riding my big sister's
bike... I can't picture it with anything but huge swept-back upright bars...
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On Thursday, March 19, 2015 at 9:05:55 PM UTC-4, alan lavine wrote:
Evening All,
I have a Surly LHT that I've used for fully loaded touring, and have loved
it for that purpose. However, when lightly loaded or not at all, I find
the ride stiff, rigid, almost leaden (is that a word ?)
On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 12:29:42 PM UTC-7, alan lavine wrote:
Let me be clear: I will use and enjoy the Clem in any case, I'm just
playing around with ideas on how I will set it up. Frame geometry and
tubing specs can give you an idea about how a bike will feel and the most
Let me be clear: I will use and enjoy the Clem in any case, I'm just
playing around with ideas on how I will set it up. Frame geometry and
tubing specs can give you an idea about how a bike will feel and the most
appropriate way to set it up, but its no substitute for actually riding it.
Bottom
I'm not going to buy a bike like these two, but if I were, I'd take a hard
look at the VO Camargue.
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 8:04 PM, drew beckmeyer drewbeckme...@gmail.com
wrote:
the prototype clem we have is quite stout. i would venture to say that it
is likely at least as thick walled as a
the prototype clem we have is quite stout. i would venture to say that it
is likely at least as thick walled as a lht and maybe even heavier in
weight...havent actually weighed anything and im sure big tires are part of
it, but it feels not so far off from my hunqapillar, which is a tank in the
That sounds very reasonable, and I would go further to say the Clem is
likely excellent as a loaded tourer as well.
With abandon,
Patrick
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Others have mentioned that the Clem is very beefy - not sure where I read
that. So, it may not be all that different than the LHT in terms of
stoutness, although I would be surprised if they ended up having identical
handling characteristics. Rivs do have a certain sparkle in the way they
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